2.1.0: "None" as mixer and switch input forbidden?

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20 Dec 2012 20:30 #4148 by rbe2012
Maybe I have missed something, but I was quite surprised when I read the 2.1.0 release notes:

Mixer no longer allows 'None' as an input

Ok, I can understand that normally it does not make sense to have no input - unless you use "fixed" as rule for calculation. In this case the input does not matter and could even be "none".
But I saw that I can not use "none" as a switch for a mixer and I think this would be a bug if true.
It can be reproduced by
  1. load an empty model (from 2.1.0-filesystem)
  2. load template 6-chairplane
  3. edit throttle channel to complex
Here you are: a switch is given (AIL) and no option to choose NONE. This happened to my older models too (quick check; did not test if they fly as I expect).
Please correct me if I am wrong, but this seems to me as if I have always a dependency from one other input for every channel, at least if I use complex mixing. Is this the intended behaviour?

I think it would be better to invent one or two new "virtual switches": ALWAYS_ON and maybe ALWAYS_OFF (no idea what it could be good for beneath debugging).

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20 Dec 2012 22:49 #4149 by PhracturedBlue
Replied by PhracturedBlue on topic 2.1.0: "None" as mixer and switch input forbidden?
Rather than inventing a complex solution, I'll just fix the bug that prevents 'None' from being allowed on the switch. I don't believe there is ever a reason to ever allow 'None' as the src though

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21 Dec 2012 11:05 #4152 by rbe2012
Agreed!
For source and fixed value mixer there is every source as good as "none" would be.
Thank you for correcting the switch issue.

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15 Jan 2013 20:25 - 15 Jan 2013 21:12 #5045 by Masen72
Any update/workaround on this? My throttle gets completely erratic when I fly in normal mode since I cannot set "None" as switch.

My workaround has been to always fly in FM01... but I keep crashing. ;-)

EDIT: I selected FM0 as switch and now it all works fine...

Thanks for the telemetry fix btw. Works neat!

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Last edit: 15 Jan 2013 21:12 by Masen72. Reason: Added fix/workaround

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16 Jan 2013 03:56 - 16 Jan 2013 03:57 #5052 by vlad_vy
For my opinion, while 'None' as a source for complex mixer is not mandatory, it's confusing at many cases. I think will be better restore 'None' as a choice for source.
Last edit: 16 Jan 2013 03:57 by vlad_vy.

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16 Jan 2013 06:48 #5053 by rbe2012
This should be fixed since 3 weeks. You can get a newer build here: 2.1.07303bd23902 (just for testing!).

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16 Jan 2013 11:32 #5057 by Hexperience
Replied by Hexperience on topic 2.1.0: "None" as mixer and switch input forbidden?
PB fixed that. However, a little bit later with the addition of the standard mixer, a reboot bug was introduced. To be honest, I can't recall if the version I posted had the reboot bug. (this reboot bug is only when changing the switch in the complex mixer, not while flying or any other time.)

I've fixed my version with a change from suvsuv's repo. I'll post that in the builds thread, but I have only tested on an 8s.

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16 Jan 2013 11:49 #5058 by sbstnp

Hexperience wrote: I've fixed my version with a change from suvsuv's repo. I'll post that in the builds thread, but I have only tested on an 8s.


I have the same fix but for Devo10 if anyone needs an updated build.

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16 Jan 2013 12:05 #5060 by Hexperience
Replied by Hexperience on topic 2.1.0: "None" as mixer and switch input forbidden?
I've just posted the builds using suvsuv's fix.

www.deviationtx.com/forum/builds/1310-de...n-2-1-0435334-x#5059

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