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						20 Dec 2012 20:30				#4148
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				2.1.0: "None" as mixer and switch input forbidden? was created by rbe2012			
			
				Maybe I have missed something, but I was quite surprised when I read the 2.1.0 release notes:
But I saw that I can not use "none" as a switch for a mixer and I think this would be a bug if true.
It can be reproduced by
Please correct me if I am wrong, but this seems to me as if I have always a dependency from one other input for every channel, at least if I use complex mixing. Is this the intended behaviour?
I think it would be better to invent one or two new "virtual switches": ALWAYS_ON and maybe ALWAYS_OFF (no idea what it could be good for beneath debugging).
					Ok, I can understand that normally it does not make sense to have no input - unless you use "fixed" as rule for calculation. In this case the input does not matter and could even be "none".Mixer no longer allows 'None' as an input
But I saw that I can not use "none" as a switch for a mixer and I think this would be a bug if true.
It can be reproduced by
- load an empty model (from 2.1.0-filesystem)
- load template 6-chairplane
- edit throttle channel to complex
Please correct me if I am wrong, but this seems to me as if I have always a dependency from one other input for every channel, at least if I use complex mixing. Is this the intended behaviour?
I think it would be better to invent one or two new "virtual switches": ALWAYS_ON and maybe ALWAYS_OFF (no idea what it could be good for beneath debugging).
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						20 Dec 2012 22:49				#4149
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				Replied by PhracturedBlue on topic 2.1.0: "None" as mixer and switch input forbidden?			
			
				Rather than inventing a complex solution, I'll just fix the bug that prevents 'None' from being allowed on the switch.  I don't believe there is ever a reason to ever allow 'None' as the src though			
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						21 Dec 2012 11:05				#4152
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				Replied by rbe2012 on topic 2.1.0: "None" as mixer and switch input forbidden?			
			
				Agreed!
For source and fixed value mixer there is every source as good as "none" would be.
Thank you for correcting the switch issue.
					For source and fixed value mixer there is every source as good as "none" would be.
Thank you for correcting the switch issue.
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						15 Jan 2013 20:25		 -  15 Jan 2013 21:12		#5045
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				Replied by Masen72 on topic 2.1.0: "None" as mixer and switch input forbidden?			
			
				Any update/workaround on this? My throttle gets completely erratic when I fly in normal mode since I cannot set "None" as switch.
My workaround has been to always fly in FM01... but I keep crashing.
EDIT: I selected FM0 as switch and now it all works fine...
Thanks for the telemetry fix btw. Works neat!
							My workaround has been to always fly in FM01... but I keep crashing.

EDIT: I selected FM0 as switch and now it all works fine...
Thanks for the telemetry fix btw. Works neat!
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		Last edit: 15 Jan 2013 21:12  by Masen72.		Reason: Added fix/workaround	
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						16 Jan 2013 03:56		 -  16 Jan 2013 03:57		#5052
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				Replied by vlad_vy on topic 2.1.0: "None" as mixer and switch input forbidden?			
			
				For my opinion, while 'None' as a source for complex mixer is not mandatory, it's confusing at many cases. I think will be better restore 'None' as a choice for source.			
					
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						16 Jan 2013 06:48				#5053
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				Replied by rbe2012 on topic 2.1.0: "None" as mixer and switch input forbidden?			
			
				This should be fixed since 3 weeks. You can get a newer build here: 
	2.1.07303bd23902
 (just for testing!).			
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						16 Jan 2013 11:32				#5057
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				Replied by Hexperience on topic 2.1.0: "None" as mixer and switch input forbidden?			
			
				PB fixed that. However, a little bit later with the addition of the standard mixer, a reboot bug was introduced.  To be honest, I can't recall if the version I posted had the reboot bug. (this reboot bug is only when changing the switch in the complex mixer, not while flying or any other time.)
I've fixed my version with a change from suvsuv's repo. I'll post that in the builds thread, but I have only tested on an 8s.
							I've fixed my version with a change from suvsuv's repo. I'll post that in the builds thread, but I have only tested on an 8s.
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						16 Jan 2013 11:49				#5058
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I have the same fix but for Devo10 if anyone needs an updated build.
							
					
Devo 10 + 4in1
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				Replied by sbstnp on topic 2.1.0: "None" as mixer and switch input forbidden?			
			Hexperience wrote: I've fixed my version with a change from suvsuv's repo. I'll post that in the builds thread, but I have only tested on an 8s.
I have the same fix but for Devo10 if anyone needs an updated build.
Devo 10 + 4in1
FrSky Taranis + TBS Crossfire
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						16 Jan 2013 12:05				#5060
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				Replied by Hexperience on topic 2.1.0: "None" as mixer and switch input forbidden?			
			
				I've just posted the builds using suvsuv's fix.
www.deviationtx.com/forum/builds/1310-de...n-2-1-0435334-x#5059
							www.deviationtx.com/forum/builds/1310-de...n-2-1-0435334-x#5059
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