Cant bind fake HubsanX4 (i.e. X6) to Devo 8

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29 Nov 2014 13:36 - 29 Nov 2014 13:40 #26647 by TomPeer
Replied by TomPeer on topic Cant bind fake HubsanX4 (i.e. X6) to Devo 8
hello

You wrote you use 5 wires. You do need 6 wires:
From the cyrf module SCK, MOSI and MISO ( top row pin 2,4 and 5),
and from the PCB VCC, Ground and TMS (or TCK)

The VCC must be connectend to two pins on the module|: vcc and CE.

Your hardware.ini should be like this:

When you connected csn to TCK then it should be:


there is no need to enable the cyrf6936 module unless
; it is wired to an alternate port. It is Enabled automatically otherwise
; enable-cyrf6936 = B12
; has_pa-cyrf6936 = 1
; enable-a7105 = A13
; has_pa-a7105 = 1
; enable-cc2500 = A14
; has_pa-cc2500 = 1
enable-nrf24l01 = A14
has_pa-nrf24l01 = 1
; enable-multimod = A13

When you connected csn to TMS then it should be:

there is no need to enable the cyrf6936 module unless
; it is wired to an alternate port. It is Enabled automatically otherwise
; enable-cyrf6936 = B12
; has_pa-cyrf6936 = 1
; enable-a7105 = A13
; has_pa-a7105 = 1
; enable-cc2500 = A14
; has_pa-cc2500 = 1
enable-nrf24l01 = A13
has_pa-nrf24l01 = 1
; enable-multimod = A13

Succes
Tom
Last edit: 29 Nov 2014 13:40 by TomPeer.

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29 Nov 2014 13:53 #26648 by M-A-X
I think i used 7 wires...

MOSI -> PIN4
CS -> TCK (or TMS)
VCC -> VDD
MISO -> PIN 5
SCK -> PIN2
CE -> VDD
GND -> PIN 3 (or8)

VDD, TCK (or TMS) on the Mainboard, PIN 2 / 4 / 5 / 3 (or 8) on the cyrf Module

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29 Nov 2014 13:57 #26649 by TomPeer
Replied by TomPeer on topic Cant bind fake HubsanX4 (i.e. X6) to Devo 8
Yes you are correct.
I said that the vcc wire goes to two pins on the module, but of course you can use 1 wire for each pin.

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29 Nov 2014 22:09 #26653 by magic_marty
Replied by magic_marty on topic Cant bind fake HubsanX4 (i.e. X6) to Devo 8
Thank you so much i got it working good on my devo8 i didn't have the CE-->VDD hooked up at all cause the module install PDF says nothing about it or at least i didn't see any mention of it...

Now on my devo12 i put the same module in and hooked up everything exactly the same only i soldered header pins on the PCB and on top of the cyrf module but it says missing module when i power it up...i went back with a voltmeter and double and triple checked all connections over and over and made sure the module is getting 3.3v several times and i can not find anything at all wrong with any of the connections they are solid....another thing i did was use a magnifying glass and made sure there was no bridged solder joints on the module ....everything is hooked up correctly and solid...

i did not run 2 seperate wires for the vc and ce i just bridged them on the NRF module which should the same thing as hooking two wires to them cause they both go to the same VCC on the PCB...

Is there something different on the devo12 i have to do from what i did on the devo8 ??

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29 Nov 2014 23:20 #26654 by TomPeer
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no. the devo 8 and 12 can be connected exact the same way.

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29 Nov 2014 23:56 - 29 Nov 2014 23:57 #26655 by aMax
@magic_marty

In the fact of your postings into several topics, one question.
Which module(s) did you hook up and which PDF was your base for wiring?

Devo7e, TaranisQ X7, R9M , 4in1 MM, Futaba FC18plusV3.2 & DFT/FLD-02
Last edit: 29 Nov 2014 23:57 by aMax.

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30 Nov 2014 00:09 #26656 by magic_marty
Replied by magic_marty on topic Cant bind fake HubsanX4 (i.e. X6) to Devo 8
i was going by the PDF in the download section i believe i know it is the first one PB wrote up a long time ago...

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30 Nov 2014 00:12 - 30 Nov 2014 00:19 #26657 by magic_marty
Replied by magic_marty on topic Cant bind fake HubsanX4 (i.e. X6) to Devo 8
Hate to do it but i guess i could unsolder the working module in the 8 and take the one from the 12 which is not working to see if it is good and put it in the 8....could be i have a bad module...got them both from the same place...was thinking of adding the header pins to the 8 anyway cause i really like the way they turned out on the 12 after i got them done..

EDIT: Does it matter that the 12 has the telemetry module in it and the 8 just has the non-telemetry module?
Last edit: 30 Nov 2014 00:19 by magic_marty.

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30 Nov 2014 00:16 - 30 Nov 2014 00:18 #26659 by aMax
This pdf is not complete and in several parts outdated.
No NRF24L01+ .....and old A7105-D03 wiring(not recommended with the nightly)

Devo7e, TaranisQ X7, R9M , 4in1 MM, Futaba FC18plusV3.2 & DFT/FLD-02
Last edit: 30 Nov 2014 00:18 by aMax.

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30 Nov 2014 00:21 - 30 Nov 2014 00:26 #26661 by magic_marty
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aMax wrote: @magic_marty

In the fact of your postings into several topics, one question.
Which module(s) did you hook up and which PDF was your base for wiring?


Its the NRF modules both are the same with the external antenna that screws on like the devo antenna does...i just removed the plastic covering on them and they fit nicely inside the tx case

These are the ones i have..

h t t p://w w w .ebay.com/itm/121458052520?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


Remove the spaces to get the link to work it wont let me post links or pictures for some reason or i could never figure out how to do it..:(
Last edit: 30 Nov 2014 00:26 by magic_marty. Reason: added link

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30 Nov 2014 00:22 #26662 by magic_marty
Replied by magic_marty on topic Cant bind fake HubsanX4 (i.e. X6) to Devo 8

aMax wrote: This pdf is not complete and in several parts outdated.
No NRF24L01+ .....and old A7105-D03 wiring(not recommended with the nightly)


Is there a updated installation guide for the devo12 running the nightly build for the NRF module?

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30 Nov 2014 00:32 #26663 by TomPeer
Replied by TomPeer on topic Cant bind fake HubsanX4 (i.e. X6) to Devo 8
I had a devo 10 with 2 modules that worked fine. I also had other devo transmitters that had problems, and i used the devo 10 to experiment the other modules on, sinds i know that one worked fine. In trhe end the TMS did not work anymore and i couldn't use this transmitter anymore.
I had to buy another devo 10 (i realy like this transmitter). The problems i had were never the transmitter, either the modules or solder faults.
My advise is, if it works, don't mess with it.

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30 Nov 2014 01:28 #26664 by aMax
It is not the special transmitter that make some difference, the solderpoints may be situated differend on the pcb, but they are all the same for the transmitters.
What you need is the exact wiring diagram for the special modules.
With Deviation 4.01 and the nightly build, is e.g for A7105-D03, now an advanced diagram recommended, or the module will not go to sleep state and take nearly as much currend as in activ state.

Your NRF:
That CE was not bound to VCC indicates, that you have no diagram for your module.
I used this one.
www.hacksmods.com/2013/05/nrf24l01-devo7e-pinout/
The points for your tx you may have already found.

Devo7e, TaranisQ X7, R9M , 4in1 MM, Futaba FC18plusV3.2 & DFT/FLD-02

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30 Nov 2014 01:42 - 30 Nov 2014 01:49 #26665 by aMax
Did you once tried the module without the antenna?
Then the PA might be dead.

Devo7e, TaranisQ X7, R9M , 4in1 MM, Futaba FC18plusV3.2 & DFT/FLD-02
Last edit: 30 Nov 2014 01:49 by aMax. Reason: link removed

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30 Nov 2014 02:01 #26666 by magic_marty
Replied by magic_marty on topic Cant bind fake HubsanX4 (i.e. X6) to Devo 8
no never powered it with out the antenna attached ...i confirmed the module is good i soldered the header pins on my 8 and took the whole module out of the 12 (the cyr and nrf) and put it in the 8 and it booted up to the binding process so i know the module is good...just gotta figure out why the 12 will not work with it...

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30 Nov 2014 02:09 - 30 Nov 2014 02:22 #26667 by aMax
Sounds good.
I assume, the same software version.....
No clue so far.
Perhaps some guys with a Devo12 and such a module will read and
give some hints.

Edit:
Reading TomPeerĀ“s post....twice...
Try TCK instead TMS (or vice versa) on your 12. Change the hardware.ini appropriated.

Devo7e, TaranisQ X7, R9M , 4in1 MM, Futaba FC18plusV3.2 & DFT/FLD-02
Last edit: 30 Nov 2014 02:22 by aMax.

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30 Nov 2014 02:22 #26668 by magic_marty
Replied by magic_marty on topic Cant bind fake HubsanX4 (i.e. X6) to Devo 8
Yes just checked its the exact same version...this is driving me crazy cause i know i have it hooked up correctly...one more thing to try i guess, put the module out of the 8 into the 12 and boot it up and see if it says missing module...the module out of the 12 booted up fine in the 8 but i didn't try the one out of the 8 in the 12....getting really good at taking these things apart is one thing for sure...

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30 Nov 2014 03:45 #26670 by magic_marty
Replied by magic_marty on topic Cant bind fake HubsanX4 (i.e. X6) to Devo 8
Well i just confirmed what i already knew...put the module from the 12 to the 8 and it binded and i could fly my cx10...so i know for sure both modules are working correctly cause they both bind and fly in my 8...

its beginning to look like i got the only Devo12 on the planet that absolutely will not run a NRF module its ridiculous..

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30 Nov 2014 12:35 #26680 by aMax
Are there any differences in the model.ini, especially in the ID section?

Devo7e, TaranisQ X7, R9M , 4in1 MM, Futaba FC18plusV3.2 & DFT/FLD-02

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30 Nov 2014 19:27 #26686 by magic_marty
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aMax wrote: Are there any differences in the model.ini, especially in the ID section?


No differences in any of the files i just copy from one tx to the other...

the hardware file is exactly the same cause i copy it from the 8 to the 12...i can fly any of my models with both the 8 or 12 without having to re-bind ..

I even tried copying all the 8 files to the 12 accept the media file it was to large and still the 12 says module missing...so i tried reinstalling the firmware and library files then copied the tx hardware file from the 8 to the 12 but it still says missing module when i power it on...

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