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07 Jan 2013 11:07 - 07 Jan 2013 11:11 #4791 by domcars0
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FDR wrote: Well, a real physical button, doesn't change it's shape either... ;)

Shape is not changed, but when a button is pushed the light change on it ...

See this samples ..
Designer plays with the light ... not with the colors




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07 Jan 2013 11:20 #4792 by FDR
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Actually no.
The lighting in these cases are the same, he only simulated that the button is pressed in (into a hole), but the shape stayed the same also.

In your previous examples in the pressed state the light has changed it's direction to coming from the bottom, or the button changed it's shape from domed to hollow...

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07 Jan 2013 11:26 - 07 Jan 2013 12:31 #4793 by FDR
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With animals, and trims...

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07 Jan 2013 12:40 - 07 Jan 2013 12:40 #4795 by rbe2012
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domcars0 wrote: the light change on it ...

As stated above my graphical abilities are poor...
In many cases the light is assumed coming from the left upper corner (maybe in cultures with other writing directions this is different?).
So: if a button is released it looks like his upper and left edge are lighted and the others dark and reversed when it is pressed:

edit: maybe the edges are too small...
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07 Jan 2013 13:03 #4796 by domcars0
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OK, rbe2012 is right.. just change the borders light is enough...but please do not invert colors :ohmy:

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07 Jan 2013 13:10 - 07 Jan 2013 14:07 #4798 by FDR
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Sorry, but I won't redraw all the existing buttons as well. They do this from the very beginning.

You couldn't notice that small border change on the tx, which doesn't have any other feedback, when the button is pressed...


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07 Jan 2013 13:32 #4799 by RugWarrior
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I think the FDR way is more visible in the field :)

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07 Jan 2013 14:33 #4800 by PhracturedBlue
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Sorry for jumping in late. FDR, you're doing a great job here.
A couple points:
a) The only reason the other buttons use inversion for press is that I was lazy and am a terrible artist. I would be happy to accept patches against that.
b) if you want to reorder the buttons to have similar functions together, that is fine. there is a list in pages/320x240x16/simple/modelmenu.c
c) while I thought the tortoise/hare was a cute metaphor, you don't have to use it if you think of a better answer.
d) I understand what you are trying to do with the 'switches' icon, but I think it is too busy. I didn't realize it was a pic of the tx initially.
e) In my opinion, the telemetry ion looks too much like it has something to do with tx power (my original was even worse). I'm not sure what else to do there; maybe a pic of a tx and a heli with an arrow from the heli to the tx? Not a lot of room for that. Still, what you've got is a lot better than what I started with.
f) I'm concerned with the throttle-hold icon. I don't like having any text on the icons, as it doesn't translate well, but I think it is sometimes necessary when we can't find an alternative. However, when the only thing on the icon is text, it is guaranteed to be meaningless in at least some languages.

And of course, please take all of the above as constructive criticism, and nothing more than suggestions. The new icons look a lot better, and I really appreciate you working on them.

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07 Jan 2013 14:42 #4801 by rbe2012
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d) this was my thought too. The lines are to thin to see.
f) a stop sign?

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07 Jan 2013 14:59 - 07 Jan 2013 15:21 #4802 by FDR
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Thanks for the suggestions!

a) PB, please make the menu icons to show their pressed state, because it doesn't work ATM.
b) Since I've dropped the color codes for the function types it is not that important now, but still I think some reordering would be good. I will see, when I'm done with the icons...
c) Yep, it's funny, but differs a bit, just like the clock...
d) This is my first try, I will try to enhance it later...
e) This one is hard. I made the waves to go left and down from the upper right point to mean they are coming back...
f) Throttle hold was a quick one before I went to sleep. ;)
I want to surround it with a stop sign, but I was lazy to draw that one so far...
EDIT: ...like this:


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07 Jan 2013 15:35 - 07 Jan 2013 15:35 #4803 by rbe2012
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good idea, but again a very thin line. How about
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07 Jan 2013 15:53 - 07 Jan 2013 15:56 #4805 by proteus
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FDR wrote: Thanks for the suggestions!

a) PB, please make the menu icons to show their pressed state, because it doesn't work ATM.
b) Since I've dropped the color codes for the function types it is not that important now, but still I think some reordering would be good. I will see, when I'm done with the icons...
c) Yep, it's funny, but differs a bit, just like the clock...
d) This is my first try, I will try to enhance it later...
e) This one is hard. I made the waves to go left and down from the upper right point to mean they are coming back...
f) Throttle hold was a quick one before I went to sleep. ;)
I want to surround it with a stop sign, but I was lazy to draw that one so far...
EDIT: ...like this:



I love this version, just waking I personally replace it with a stopwatch. what is the icon of the parachute?

there is only the icon of the gyroscope to the same design as the other

the yellow color is too light for letters T and P
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07 Jan 2013 16:01 #4806 by PhracturedBlue
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FDR wrote: Thanks for the suggestions!

a) PB, please make the menu icons to show their pressed state, because it doesn't work ATM.

I did so. What you get for 'free' is the new build system with an included libopencm3. I've been testing it and it seems to work ok, but it is a bug hcange to the build system, and may not work well on all platforms.

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07 Jan 2013 16:07 #4807 by FDR
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rbe2012 wrote: good idea, but again a very thin line. How about

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I don't really like the too big filled ones.
That was my concern about the clock too...

Is it better this way:

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07 Jan 2013 16:13 #4808 by FDR
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proteus wrote: I love this version, just waking I personally replace it with a stopwatch.

I've tried a stopwatch too, couldn't decide which is better.
(My stopwatch was too small, this clock is too big... ;) )
The advantage of the clock, that it imply the alarm functionality...

proteus wrote: what is the icon of the parachute?

Fail-safe.

proteus wrote: there is only the icon of the gyroscope to the same design as the other

This will be hard... ;)

proteus wrote: the yellow color is too light for letters T and P

Yep, I couldn't correct it, because I don't have the same font at work...
I'll correct them.

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07 Jan 2013 17:13 - 07 Jan 2013 17:15 #4812 by rbe2012
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FDR wrote: This will be hard... ;)


Ha! I can help here.
I reversed the gyro symbol, colored it new, selected the dark background (with the gimp wizard stick) and put a progression on it. You will probably design it again with your colors to make it fit to the rest...

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07 Jan 2013 19:00 - 07 Jan 2013 19:06 #4813 by rbe2012
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I tried the last proposal (with my gyro) to make as toggle icons to have a look on the real screen. If anyone wants to: here it is. Simply put this in the "media" directory.

Edit: can't append the file, worked earlier. I will try this again later, for so long here is the bitmap: ((Here it should be, but does not work either! Maybe a problem with the bmp format (A1 R5 G5 B5), zipped works))
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07 Jan 2013 19:54 #4816 by FDR
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rbe2012 wrote:

FDR wrote: This will be hard... ;)


Ha! I can help here.
I reversed the gyro symbol, colored it new, selected the dark background (with the gimp wizard stick) and put a progression on it. You will probably design it again with your colors to make it fit to the rest...


I don't really like this gyro either.
I thought about something more schematic thing, like that spinning something in the Inception movie, but I'm lazy, so no it stays for a while...


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07 Jan 2013 20:22 #4817 by proteus
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Yessss
it's perfect for me. i like it :)

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07 Jan 2013 20:43 #4819 by FDR
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PB, should I push it now, or I have to refine it further first?

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