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15 Nov 2016 01:00 #55935 by robyn
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hi everyone
I am trying to set up a mix between aileron and rudder in airplane mode
and a mix between flaps and elevator
for the life of me I can't work it out HELP PLEASE!

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15 Nov 2016 02:51 #55939 by RoGuE_StreaK
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In a nutshell, change the mixer type to complex, and add another "page"; pages are mixes that build on the output of the preceding pages (generally speaking). So if you have want your aileron control to also affect your rudder channel, go into your rudder channel, add a page, then on that page set the source as your aileron stick and set the "mux" to "add"; this will give you your usual rudder response, but also respond to the aileron stick moving, giving an addition of both. Play with the "scale" of both pages to change how much each stick affects things.

Check out the manual under 8.2.6 (9.2.6 for 7e/10 manual) to see how the various "mux" types work against the mix result from the preceding "pages". I'd probably recommend looking at the 6/8/12 manual first to get a grasp of the concepts without having the added impedement of the less friendly 7e/10 interface.

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15 Nov 2016 03:33 #55940 by robyn
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thank you so much....
the manual is gobbly gook to me just got to learn the hard way
thanks again

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15 Nov 2016 08:17 #55944 by Alexandro
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Some Tips:
1 st Mix on Multipage Mix is allways replace, next Pages use add.
For the Rud to Ail use on 2nd Page of the Rud Mix the Source Ail and Add on the replace Menu

For the Ele to Flap use a Curve Mix to get the right throw on the Ele Cannel. I use only the down Side of the Ele (Flapps can go up for Speed and down for Thermal and slow flight)

if you need more Info feel free to ask, i try to help

greetings Alex

p.s. i try to write the Way , so People can learn it Step by Step. Only on last Option i try to Post the Model File

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18 Nov 2016 03:19 #55994 by robyn
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Thanks guys
I have that all working but
I want to keep the original channel working as well
eg mix aileron to rudder on switch mix 1
in position mix 1 aileron stick works both aileron and rudder ....GREAT
in the off position the aileron stick works the aileron
BUT the rudder stick will not work the rudder
any ideas?
thanks in advance

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18 Nov 2016 06:15 #55996 by Alexandro
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On Channel Rud complex 2 Pages

1. Rud 100% ,no Switch and Replace
2. Ail 100%, Switch (mix1) and Add

This switch only the Ail Part on and off, the Rud does always work normal
If the Direction of the mixed Ail is wrong, then got to -100% or reverse the Ail Mix with the Klick on Ail to get !Ail . It depends on if you use the Trim Funktions on the Mix direct. Most time used on Aileron Mix of Flying Wings

Alex

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18 Nov 2016 23:59 #56024 by robyn
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Hi
thanks heaps Alexandro
I have it all worked out and working
What I was doing wrong was not setting it to 2 mixes and 2 pages
again thanks a lot
I thought I was clever but alas I am silly
regards Robyn

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20 Nov 2016 07:57 #56064 by RoGuE_StreaK
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The thing to remember in deviation is that all channels are completely independent from each other, so if you want something to effect two channels you need to specifically make mixes on those channels.
It's a good idea to note down all of your channels / servos etc., and figure out exactly what you want each of them to do in response to your inputs. From there just break it down to each individual channel, don't get too overwhelmed with the "big picture".
And if you want two channels to be essentially the same but maybe part of it reversed (eg. two chanels of ailerons with flaperons), you can either copy the channel or just write down your settings and duplicate, reversing where necessary; usually by trial and error. Input Monitor and Channel Monitor are very useful here.

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