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E011 and E010 with Multiprotocol T8SG
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18 Oct 2017 00:43 #65103
by J.B.
E011 and E010 with Multiprotocol T8SG was created by J.B.
Hello, i have T8SG multiprotocol, and since it don't bind any of my drones that have different protocols (futaba, fly sky, ecc) i buy an E010 and a E011 to be sure that Tx work (because they are in the models list supported of DeviationTx).
Now, the E011 work (bayang), but E010 (Mjx) nothing..! I also tried a model ini downloaded here, but not bind...
I don't understand, if the module NRF24L01 was defective not even work the E011 or not..?
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Now, the E011 work (bayang), but E010 (Mjx) nothing..! I also tried a model ini downloaded here, but not bind...
I don't understand, if the module NRF24L01 was defective not even work the E011 or not..?
Thanks
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19 Oct 2017 08:51 - 19 Oct 2017 08:58 #65123
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Futaba Fasst is not reverse ingeneered and not possible on the hardwareside with standard 4in1
Only old Futaba S-FHSS is supported (works with cc2500 chipset on 4in1)
Flysky there are 2 different protocols: old Flysky and new AFHDS-2A
For E010 you need to select the protocol Option "E010" @ MJx Protocol
(Press ENT on MJx)
Only old Futaba S-FHSS is supported (works with cc2500 chipset on 4in1)
Flysky there are 2 different protocols: old Flysky and new AFHDS-2A
For E010 you need to select the protocol Option "E010" @ MJx Protocol
(Press ENT on MJx)
Last edit: 19 Oct 2017 08:58 by Wene001.
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19 Oct 2017 23:55 - 19 Oct 2017 23:58 #65141
by J.B.
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Thanks, i have selected right E010 option, but nothing..!
Idem Fly Sky, i have tried all two but nothing...
The only Drone that Work is 011...
Another user here told me that is T8SG Multimodule that not work properly, because it have the green light that flash more times, at random...
Idem Fly Sky, i have tried all two but nothing...
The only Drone that Work is 011...
Another user here told me that is T8SG Multimodule that not work properly, because it have the green light that flash more times, at random...
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23 Oct 2017 21:26 - 24 Oct 2017 01:51 #65223
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For Flysky you can try my fix here:
www.deviationtx.com/forum/6-general-disc...tency?start=20#65048
I suppose you're having the same issue with the E010 but unfortunately that's not fixable in software:
www.deviationtx.com/forum/protocol-devel...ures?start=280#65222
Jumper (and YTech) has been told they should use better accuracy crystals, but we can't really blame them on that: the nrf24l01 datasheet specifies that a crystal oscillator with +/- 60 ppm tolerance is allowed, at any supported bitrate, but when we use it to send packets to a xn297 (that's a hack) at 250 kbps, a +/- 20 ppm tolerance is required (see xn297L datasheet).
Fortunately, only very few protocols are using xn297 emulation @250kbps, most of them are 1 Mbps, that explains why your E011 (Bayang) works perfectly while the E010 doesn't.
www.deviationtx.com/forum/6-general-disc...tency?start=20#65048
I suppose you're having the same issue with the E010 but unfortunately that's not fixable in software:
www.deviationtx.com/forum/protocol-devel...ures?start=280#65222
Jumper (and YTech) has been told they should use better accuracy crystals, but we can't really blame them on that: the nrf24l01 datasheet specifies that a crystal oscillator with +/- 60 ppm tolerance is allowed, at any supported bitrate, but when we use it to send packets to a xn297 (that's a hack) at 250 kbps, a +/- 20 ppm tolerance is required (see xn297L datasheet).
Fortunately, only very few protocols are using xn297 emulation @250kbps, most of them are 1 Mbps, that explains why your E011 (Bayang) works perfectly while the E010 doesn't.
Last edit: 24 Oct 2017 01:51 by goebish.
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28 Oct 2017 14:03 #65324
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I managed to get my E010 to bind just fine but had to drop the power down to 30mw before it would bind.
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28 Oct 2017 14:09 #65325
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Yes, that's a workaround that works for some (I don't really get why tho...) but I suppose you're having limited range.
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29 Oct 2017 02:28 #65333
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Thank you very much..!
I ask you, that version with fine tuning, it's not in last release of T8SG Deviation 2017.10.11..?
Because i update to it from a few days, and now i would do it again with your..!
I ask you, that version with fine tuning, it's not in last release of T8SG Deviation 2017.10.11..?
Because i update to it from a few days, and now i would do it again with your..!
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29 Oct 2017 02:29 #65334
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My not bind at any power rate 
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29 Oct 2017 02:29 #65335
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That's only a test build for now.
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29 Oct 2017 06:08 #65337
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Should be great if Vlad can include your new FlySly option in his last Jumper's build 
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29 Oct 2017 06:10 #65338
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I don't know if there are 4 crystal in the multimodule or a common one.... but can we expect a future Multimodule revision with a better crystal for the nRF24L01 part ?, especially if designer are now aware about this problem of incompatibility of the emulation of the XN297@250kbit/s
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29 Oct 2017 10:05 - 29 Oct 2017 11:39 #65343
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The Flysky option will be included in every targets, but I'm waiting until 1 or 2 more people confirm it's working fine.
Also, looks like Fred is having the same issue with AFHDS 2A, so I'll probably add the option to every A7105 protocols.
Each radio has his own crystal, 4 per module.
Also, looks like Fred is having the same issue with AFHDS 2A, so I'll probably add the option to every A7105 protocols.
Each radio has his own crystal, 4 per module.
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30 Oct 2017 06:08 #65365
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Yes should be a good idea to add this option every A7105's based
Replied by SeByDocKy on topic E011 and E010 with Multiprotocol T8SG
goebish wrote: The Flysky option will be included in every targets, but I'm waiting until 1 or 2 more people confirm it's working fine.
Also, looks like Fred is having the same issue with AFHDS 2A, so I'll probably add the option to every A7105 protocols.
Each radio has his own crystal, 4 per module.
Yes should be a good idea to add this option every A7105's based
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31 Oct 2017 00:09 #65372
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One thing yet..!
The 011 work perfectly with T8SG, but i have only one problem...
I put on it a Camera in front, low profile, and so i need some Trim or it go forward for the weight in front...!
The problem is, if a trim with original controller, i do 3 beep down and the 011 fly stable, but if a trim with T8SG down also of 20 beep, it fly always forward, nothing change..!
it's different trimming..?
i need to know what Channel Trim have original Controller and set it on T8Sg..?
Thanks in advance!
The 011 work perfectly with T8SG, but i have only one problem...
I put on it a Camera in front, low profile, and so i need some Trim or it go forward for the weight in front...!
The problem is, if a trim with original controller, i do 3 beep down and the 011 fly stable, but if a trim with T8SG down also of 20 beep, it fly always forward, nothing change..!
it's different trimming..?
i need to know what Channel Trim have original Controller and set it on T8Sg..?
Thanks in advance!
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31 Oct 2017 00:12 #65373
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Go to Model menu / Trims then increase the step values.
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01 Nov 2017 22:46 #65424
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Thanks!!
Replied by J.B. on topic E011 and E010 with Multiprotocol T8SG
goebish wrote: Go to Model menu / Trims then increase the step values.
Thanks!!
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