Moded Devo 7e , Omnibus F3, No Switch Output

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17 Jan 2018 15:29 #66933 by jamichx
Hi, I have latest iNav loaded to Omnibus f3, was trying to connect my 3 way switch moded devo7e but will not get any switch output on inav i get all 4 channels and thats it. I have to say I still have 4.0.1 version loaded on my Devo 7e as I have not used this for long time.

I use DX6i but since this TX only has two way switches I thought I would give this s go. Is this problem with old deviation version or is it just settings that I do wrong. I mean I get the 4 channels ok but not even single switch. In model I have Plane sat but tried with Multi also.

I tried to look for this problem here and on the internet but found nothing. If anyone can point me in the right direction I would really appreciate it.
Thank you

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17 Jan 2018 17:57 #66937 by Deal57
It's been a while since 4.01, but I think it had the input monitor and channel monitor in the transmitter menu. Can you see switch movements in the input monitor and if so, can you see channel activity (for the channel assigned to that switch) in the channel monitor? If it's not working you need to work on your model setup. If that's working then perhaps there is an FC or receiver issue.

Let us know what you find... if it's a model thing, attach your model.ini file, too.

Deviation Devo7e 3way switch mod, A7105, NRF24L01
Devo6s 2x2 switch mod, trim mod, haptic, multimodule, A7105, NRF24L01, CC2500
Devo12e 4-in-1 with voice mod -- it speaks!!

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17 Jan 2018 18:11 #66938 by jamichx
Replied by jamichx on topic Moded Devo 7e , Omnibus F3, No Switch Output
Thank you for you replay I have checked what you suggested and I do have stick input ok but mixer output is only 4 channels

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17 Jan 2018 18:30 #66939 by Deal57
I suggest setting up channel 5 for arming and channel 6 for modes ... of course your mileage may vary...

Ch 5: min-max curve defaults to Hold1 for stock 7e
Ch 6: 3-position curve defaults to Mix0-Mix1-Mix2 (automaps to Fmode1 for stock 7e). You can use a 3-way SWA0-SWA1-SWA2 instead as illustrated in the code.
[channel5]
template=simple
[mixer]
src=HOLD1
dest=Ch5
curvetype=min/max

[channel6]
template=expo_dr
[mixer]
src=SWA0
dest=CH6
scalar=-100
[mixer]
src=SWA0
dest=CH6
switch=SWA1
scalar=0
[mixer]
src=SWA0
dest=CH6
switch=SWA2
scalar=100

Deviation Devo7e 3way switch mod, A7105, NRF24L01
Devo6s 2x2 switch mod, trim mod, haptic, multimodule, A7105, NRF24L01, CC2500
Devo12e 4-in-1 with voice mod -- it speaks!!

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17 Jan 2018 19:05 - 17 Jan 2018 19:08 #66940 by jamichx
Replied by jamichx on topic Moded Devo 7e , Omnibus F3, No Switch Output
Hi , getting somewhere but I had to do this (see below) to have three position on B switch. Any idea why ? If I did what you suggested I had only 2 positions on switch A. So now I have 2 position on CH5 and switch A is acting as 2 position switch and switch B as 3 position switch both on channel 6

[channel6]
template=expo_dr
[mixer]
src=SWA0
dest=CH6
scalar=-100
[mixer]
src=SWA0
dest=CH6
switch=SWB1
scalar=0
[mixer]
src=SWA0
dest=CH6
switch=SWB2
scalar=100
Last edit: 17 Jan 2018 19:08 by jamichx.

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17 Jan 2018 19:15 #66941 by Deal57
Make sure the source of the input, SWB is used as the SRC= entry. So change your SWA0 entry to SWB0. Unless you want the behavior you are seeing :P

Deviation Devo7e 3way switch mod, A7105, NRF24L01
Devo6s 2x2 switch mod, trim mod, haptic, multimodule, A7105, NRF24L01, CC2500
Devo12e 4-in-1 with voice mod -- it speaks!!

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17 Jan 2018 19:25 - 17 Jan 2018 19:32 #66942 by jamichx
Replied by jamichx on topic Moded Devo 7e , Omnibus F3, No Switch Output
if I do what you say then in channel monitor the value just go form -100 to 0 and back to -100 even I set one of the values +100. I have not idea why cos what you wrote make sense just does not work till I do the setting I posted. weird

Could it be some kind of glitch ?
Last edit: 17 Jan 2018 19:32 by jamichx.

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17 Jan 2018 20:02 #66945 by Deal57
Its not a glitch, really. You can think of each position of each switch as a separate button. So when your switch is in position 0, the SWB0 button has a value of ON, SWB1 has a value of OFF and SWB2 has a value of OFF. You can see that happening in the Input monitor (use the > right arrow to move to the input monitor, then < left arrow to go back).

In the Input function, the programmers use -100 to show OFF, 100 to show ON, and in the channel monitor you are seeing the RESULTS of the input after it passes through the mixer. Note the value of SCALAR in the three mixers, which should be set to -100, 0, and 100. If you have set the scalar in the first mixer to -100, then when SWB0 is ON (inputting a value of 100), it is SCALED by -100, to produce a channel value of -100. If SWB1 is selected, then the second mixer is active with a scalar of 0, and you get a channel output of 0. Finally, when SWB2 is ON (now SWB0 and SWB1 are both OFF), with a scalar of 100, you get a channel output of 100. It took me some time to get my head around these mixers, so let me know if I missed anything here.

Deviation Devo7e 3way switch mod, A7105, NRF24L01
Devo6s 2x2 switch mod, trim mod, haptic, multimodule, A7105, NRF24L01, CC2500
Devo12e 4-in-1 with voice mod -- it speaks!!

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17 Jan 2018 23:30 #66950 by jamichx
Replied by jamichx on topic Moded Devo 7e , Omnibus F3, No Switch Output

Deal57 wrote: Make sure the source of the input, SWB is used as the SRC= entry. So change your SWA0 entry to SWB0. Unless you want the behavior you are seeing :P


If I do this If I change A0 to B0 then B switch becomes only 2way switch. It just does not work as you suggested. It makes no sense to me. Logically it should work as u say

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18 Jan 2018 00:16 - 18 Jan 2018 03:08 #66951 by Deal57
The code should look like this for SWB: NOTE: Put a space in the switch name (sorry, I overlooked that) so you will use SW B0, SW B1, and SW B2. I've tried this in the Devo7e emulator and it does what you need.
[channel6]
template=expo_dr
[mixer]
src=SW B0
dest=Ch6
scalar=-100
curvetype=fixed
[mixer]
src=SW B0
dest=Ch6
switch=SW B1
scalar=0
curvetype=fixed
[mixer]
src=SW B0
dest=Ch6
switch=SW B2
curvetype=fixed

If you send your entire ini file I will try it in my emulator.

Deviation Devo7e 3way switch mod, A7105, NRF24L01
Devo6s 2x2 switch mod, trim mod, haptic, multimodule, A7105, NRF24L01, CC2500
Devo12e 4-in-1 with voice mod -- it speaks!!
Last edit: 18 Jan 2018 03:08 by Deal57. Reason: Correction to switch names

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19 Jan 2018 07:48 - 19 Jan 2018 07:51 #66990 by jamichx
Replied by jamichx on topic Moded Devo 7e , Omnibus F3, No Switch Output

Deal57 wrote: The code should look like this for SWB: NOTE: Put a space in the switch name (sorry, I overlooked that) so you will use SW B0, SW B1, and SW B2. I've tried this in the Devo7e emulator and it does what you need.

[channel6]
template=expo_dr
[mixer]
src=SW B0
dest=Ch6
scalar=-100
curvetype=fixed
[mixer]
src=SW B0
dest=Ch6
switch=SW B1
scalar=0
curvetype=fixed
[mixer]
src=SW B0
dest=Ch6
switch=SW B2
curvetype=fixed

If you send your entire ini file I will try it in my emulator.


Thank you for helping me , I just cant get it done it only works the way I described. I do not know why. Maybe because if the old software. I will try to figure this out maybe upgrade my devo 7e.

Would you mind help me with that? If I want to upgrade to latest version and want to keep all my models intact what exactly do I need to do ? Also I think If I remember this right I think I had to enable those new switches and v911 receiver mod plus range mod somewhere but have no idea how I did that. So basically if I want to upgrade do latest deviation version what would be the steps for me ? Do I need deviation or nightly built ? Thank you
Last edit: 19 Jan 2018 07:51 by jamichx.

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19 Jan 2018 17:19 - 19 Jan 2018 17:49 #66999 by Deal57
Please check out the tutorials section of the forum. There are a number of tutorials including this overview. . And the user guide is always a worthy reference (see left-side index).

I suggest using the most recent Release 5.0.0 with updated protocols .

Let us know how it goes!

Deviation Devo7e 3way switch mod, A7105, NRF24L01
Devo6s 2x2 switch mod, trim mod, haptic, multimodule, A7105, NRF24L01, CC2500
Devo12e 4-in-1 with voice mod -- it speaks!!
Last edit: 19 Jan 2018 17:49 by Deal57. Reason: Added link to latest version

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