Some new features

If you want me to include this, it would be a lot easier for me if it were rebased on my trunk rather than suvsuv's.
Managing deltas from his repo is difficult because he doesn't actually track my tree, so I end up using diff and patch instead of Mercurial merge capabilities. That makes it painful for me to manage, and slows me down.

If you don't want to, I can do it myself, but it is annoying. especially given that it doesn't include thelast weeks worth of my code.

...or long click on the timer's box on the DEVO 6/8.

I played with suvsuv's "Advanced2" settings in his repo. I think it is a lot more intuitive than the current 'Advanced' mixer setup. My main issue with it is that I think it takes more button presses to do the same task, which might be annoying. I need to play with it more. I think on a Devo8 I'd want a different layout to handle the expo/dr case, but for managing 'Complex' mixers it is definitely superior.

One thing I know is that I don't see a need for a 3rd menu system. So I'll likely just merge his system into the current 'Advanced' mixer at some time. Once I'm close to ready to do that, I'll solicit feedback on which parts people prefer.

FYI, I merged a lot of (but not all of) suvsuv's work today. It should make your task of migrating patches easier.

PhracturedBlue wrote: I played with suvsuv's "Advanced2" settings in his repo. I think it is a lot more intuitive than the current 'Advanced' mixer setup. My main issue with it is that I think it takes more button presses to do the same task, which might be annoying. I need to play with it more. I think on a Devo8 I'd want a different layout to handle the expo/dr case, but for managing 'Complex' mixers it is definitely superior.

One thing I know is that I don't see a need for a 3rd menu system. So I'll likely just merge his system into the current 'Advanced' mixer at some time. Once I'm close to ready to do that, I'll solicit feedback on which parts people prefer.

I think it would worth a dedicated topic to discuss that, but here are my first impressions:

I don't really like it, more precisely I wouldn't like the DEVO 8 to be like that.
I think the drop of the Simple and Expo&DR mixer templates are too much sacrifise, however for the limited display of the DEVO 10 it's not that bad compromise, even though the lists could be more informative.

The only thing that I like is the list of the complex mixer pages, and in the DEVO 8 the list could contain much more useful data. (For example what sense do it have to always list "->Ch1(ELE)", when all the items will contain that?)
It would be a good place to have the rearrangement too, the DEVO 8 has the necessary space for that.
The DEVO 8 could show all the fields of a complex mixer page at once, so you haven't have to preselect the source when adding a new page, i.e. you could change it later too without the need to delete and add again.

However it would mean more clicks to view and/or modify things...

I think the most confusing thing is the CCPM configuration part: if you select a CCPM option while adding a page (even when it's not the first), all previous pages are cleared, while it would be better if they were copied to the virtual channel. (It's true for the DEVO 8 too, but there changing to the CCPM is more differentiated.)

I've merged domcars patch after some minor changes.
I would like to see an enhancement that allows resetting (and maybe viewing) the permanent timer on the 'timer' page.