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21 Jan 2014 09:57 - 21 Jan 2014 09:58 #18827 by lhomme
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Hi,

I m using deviationtx 4.0.1 with many models. I fly with Devo & spektrum RXs.
Now i want to use my FBL80 with my TX. So i ordered a module nrf24l01 for arduino and i connected it to my devo board. Then I changed the tx.ini as specified in the docs. So far, it didn't bind...

Maybe, the wiring went wrong even with lots of re-checking. Actually, i found some weird thing : the TMS pin on which i connected CSN of my module is '1' when the transmission is turned on. I would expect a '0' because its a chip select N.

Did i miss something ?
Did someone made it on a devo8s ?

thanks
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21 Jan 2014 10:15 #18828 by RandMental
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Please give more details and photo of the "module nrf24l01 for arduino" you purchased, there are many such modules, then we can try to assist.

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21 Jan 2014 13:49 - 21 Jan 2014 13:51 #18831 by lhomme
Replied by lhomme on topic help - devo8s + nrf24l01+
I connected this one:

Actually, i desoldered the pins to insert the wires directly on the PCB.
When i m back home, i ll shoot some pictures of my wiring.
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21 Jan 2014 13:54 #18832 by PhracturedBlue
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I use that module, and it works fine (but I don't have an FBL80).
you won't e able to see CSN switch. it is held high most of the time, and has very short (< 1msec) busts when it is low during transmission.
As RandMetal said, the easiest way to help is to see pics of what you've done.

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21 Jan 2014 17:53 #18852 by lhomme
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Here we are :

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23 Jan 2014 10:02 #18981 by lhomme
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up

Any suggestion ?

Thanks

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23 Jan 2014 10:26 #18983 by rbe2012
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I can't see any errors in the cabling. Did you enable the module in the tx.ini (or hardware.ini if you use an actual nightly build)? Do you see an asterisk "*" in front of the nrf-protocols? If so, enable the module first.

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23 Jan 2014 10:32 #18984 by SeByDocKy
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Do you have/copy the protocol folder in your TX ?

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23 Jan 2014 11:11 #18987 by lhomme
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I don't have the asterix on the 'hisky' protocol on the model config page.

>> protocol folder in your TX ?

What is that ?

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23 Jan 2014 11:12 #18988 by lhomme
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Maybe i destroyed the module when desoldering the gold-plated pins ?

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23 Jan 2014 11:32 #18989 by HappyHarry
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have you set the nrf module to the correct address in tx.ini?, tms is A13 so you should have

enable-nrf24l01=A13
has_pa-nrf24l01=0

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23 Jan 2014 13:16 - 23 Jan 2014 13:19 #18993 by rbe2012
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lhomme wrote: Maybe i destroyed the module when desoldering the gold-plated pins ?

This is only necessary for Devo7e, no for Devo8.

SeByDocKy wrote: Do you have/copy the protocol folder in your TX ?

If you have a tool for checking electrical connections (what is the correct word?) you can check if the connection between the wire and the corresponding pin of the nrf chip is there (you can follow the lines on the board easily). But I guess it is not really probable; nothing on the pictures supports this assumption.
Edit: After thinking about that again one thing I could imagine: the connection between upper and lower side of the contact is gone because the pin which connected both sides isn't there anymore. It isn't easy to see on your pictures if you soldered the wires through the board.
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23 Jan 2014 14:49 #18996 by PhracturedBlue
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your wiring looks fine. Please post your tx.ini file from your tx here. It think it is very unlikely you'd damage your board soldering it that way.

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23 Jan 2014 18:46 #19003 by lhomme
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Hi guys. Thank you all for supporting.

Well, I rechecked everything with my ohm-meter. The PCB is solderec on both sides. No issue binding the heli with the other transmitter.
I think i m using a defective NRF24L01...

Btw, here is my tx.ini :

current_model=8
language=0
music_shutdown=0
mode=2
brightness=5
contrast=5
volume=10
vibration=1
power_alarm=0
batt_alarm=4000
batt_critical=3800
batt_warning_interval=30
splash_delay=35
[modules]
enable-cyrf6936=B12
has_pa-cyrf6936=1
enable-a7105=None
has_pa-a7105=0
enable-cc2500=None
has_pa-cc2500=0
enable-nrf24l01=A13
has_pa-nrf24l01=1
[calibrate1]
max=3831
min=478
zero=2217
[calibrate2]
max=3594
min=246
zero=1801
[calibrate3]
max=3694
min=341
zero=1986
[calibrate4]
max=3789
min=363
zero=2092
[touch]
xscale=193158
yscale=141154
xoffset=-395
yoffset=-16
[autodimmer]
timer=20000
dimvalue=0
[countdowntimersettings]
prealerttime=30000
prealertinterval=10000
timeupinterval=10000
[telemetry]
temp=celcius
length=meters

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23 Jan 2014 18:49 #19004 by PhracturedBlue
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turn off the has_pa-nrf24l01=1 switch. You don't have one.
so either comment it out, or set it to 0.

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01 Apr 2014 17:34 #22006 by lhomme
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Hi,

Finally, i ordered another module which i received 2 months later. I soldered it the same way and it is working, quite surprisingly.

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15 May 2014 16:55 #23263 by AirPatoine
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I installed that same module. It binds great, but the range is only about 20 feet when flying my V272. I also get lag and interference and sticking controls even at short range. I was wondering what range you were getting with your module?

Considering I got it off of ebay for about $1 I can't complain too much, but I ordered another one with an external antenna and power amplifier that I intend to install asap.

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19 May 2014 09:33 - 19 May 2014 09:36 #23340 by lhomme
Replied by lhomme on topic [SOLVED] help - devo8s + nrf24l01+
Hi, I only tried with the FLB80. This is quite the smallest CP heli so far so I can only see it within 10 meters away (30 feet ?). I didn't experienced signal loss yet. This is quite surprising comparing to full range DSMX that fails before 100 meters and close to ground.

So i would expect the amplified one with antena to reach at least 200 meters (650 feet).
Last edit: 19 May 2014 09:36 by lhomme. Reason: adding metric to US convertions

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19 May 2014 19:20 #23365 by btoschi
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AirPatoine wrote: I also get lag and interference and sticking controls even at short range.


I have a very similar issue with any nRF based model. A7105 (Hubsan) working fine.
Others on the forum have told me that's most propably due to bad soldering (I had not the time to check yet).

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