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I also ordered one of these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221503432907
It is HM-12 based, and should support the latest smartphones with BLE as well as traditional devices. We'll see when it gets here.
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The parts density may be on par with typical phones, GPS modules etc, so for automated pick and place it should not be hard.
With a shaky hand, or two, tweezers and a 10X microscope it will be a challenge
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I would get an assembly quote from at least seeed to see which design to use.
It is already a 2-sided SMT board, could also some RF parts be located on layer 4?
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All 4 RF chips are talking on the SPI bus.
I am seeing a signal passing through the switch now too!
I haven't verified that all 4 legs are working (the code is blindly iterating through the 4 RF chips, changing the switch every 20 seconds or so), but I am definitely seeing an RF signal passing through the switch now.
So I can finally actually make progress on programming and testing.
Happy days.
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Is the Bluetooth part an option? or will it be a requirement?
This will be a dream come true for many people, no pressure. I wish I could contribute in some way.
Thanks in advance! I hope all goes well with testing. Thank you for taking the time in addition to the development to keep us updated on your progress.
-Jasen
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As far as selling it goes, I still don't know. My reading of the FCC regulations say that this module is a sub-assembly (and thus only needs to be tested once installed in a radio, and then only if it is sold that way). However, if the option to hook it up to a PC is developed, then the module becomes a stand-alone device and needs to go through licensing. In that case, it would need to come with an antenna and enclosure since FCC regulation would require that the tested antenna be the only one available. I don't think it is even possible to license the module for insertion to a transmitter. Again, the FCC requires testing with the antenna, and I would not be able to supply the final antenna (since the whole point is to reuse the existing Tx antenna)
Since the penalty for selling an unlicensed transmitter is very high, I would not be comfortable selling this in any form to anyone in the US. Thus I could:
a) sell them myself, but only outside the US
b) find someone outside the US who could sell into the US
I'm more likely to do (b), just because it is a hassle to ship internationally, and shipping from the US is very expensive these days. Either way I have no interest in monetizing this, so any profit would not come to me.
Seeed has a storefront that may make this possible (they're in China and following FCC requirements should then fall to the purchaser). However, I'm not sure this board could have sufficient volume to get them to agree (I think they have a minimum expected sale of 500 items to warrant their time). Checked and it is a 100 minimum which may be obtainable
I haven't done a recent analysis, but I think I estimated that these board would need to sell for ~$50 each to make it worthwhile for anyone to sell them.
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Might all be an exercise to see if it could be done, not sure what the end game will be then?
Thanks,
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Devo 10 + 4in1
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PhracturedBlue wrote: And.....the switch appears to be working!
All 4 RF chips are talking on the SPI bus.
I am seeing a signal passing through the switch now too!
I haven't verified that all 4 legs are working (the code is blindly iterating through the 4 RF chips, changing the switch every 20 seconds or so), but I am definitely seeing an RF signal passing through the switch now.
So I can finally actually make progress on programming and testing.
Happy days.
WHAOOHHH fantastic
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It's only Qfn parts that are a pain. Cheap iron with correct tips very cheap from Bg. Oven is nice but not needed but reflow blower is a must and stencil. I Failed badly making stencil. If you have reflow blower moving USB is simple task.
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I also have the V0.9.3 board coming, maybe as soon as this next weekend. That one has the same circuit but a more compressed layout to support a proper shield. I need to attempt to build one and see how it goes.
I don't know if I mentioned it before, but these little boxes are great for managing SMT parts:
r.ebay.com/x5qfiY
With hundreds of capacitors that all look identical, I would go crazy without them.
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