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I've looked at manual P&P machines. I'm actually holding out for an automated one (something like the FirePick) though nothing on the market yet. But that won't help at all here. As I've said before, I am not willing to sell these myself (at least not within the US). The risk is just too high unless I can get it licensed, and I can't see how to justify the cost of licensure. So our best bet is to try to find someone to produce and sell them without my involvement.
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You could add 1K or less shunt on either side of the diodes, to reduce the leakage until it makes a logic "low" voltage wherever it ends up. Or you could use "real" logic with FETs rather than diode logic. Low leakage diodes is an option.
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If only one power source is needed, at a time, can the other source be switched off, using maybe SC-70 load-switches, or enable pin?
What is max current draw? Can you use a dc/dc from transmitter to extend battery life (noise?)?
There may be better LDOs but this one simulates isolation of the sources from each other.
Among many choices of LDO's for this, the CMOS PMOS proably will not work due to the intrinsic drain body diode, so bipolar output may be the only choice, along with "high" ESR tantalum, aluminum, or niobium output caps.
Most LDOs are not bipolar output but this one is: 1016-1873-1-ND and is also low cost fixed 500mA SOT23-5.
"Reverse Battery Protection" is usually not a feature of MOS LDOs, except 893-1175-1-ND which is designed with this in mind. 700mA low ESR OK, but max 6V in. SOT-89-5 is also smaller than the 1117 and its "tab" is grounded so heat-sinking to ground-layer should be better.
The 1117 types are usually also bipolar, if you have the space for 2.
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www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/BA33BC...C0FP-E2CT-ND/3663735
with this diode (only for the USB side):
www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/RB160M...B160M-40CT-ND/926504
That should allow a lower input voltage (on the ppm/devo side) and only allow 30uA current through which can easily be handled by a 10k resistor.
I've been working on the Android app and PPM output this weekend. All of the settings are implemented. I just need to get binding coded, and I'll be ready to go.
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Is 2V a logic high?
My last edit with the Torex LDO should have very low drop-out, I wish I never used the 1117 series, tab is "hot", and heat-sinking thru bond-wires and epoxy is not so good.
I never considered Dpak for this but that gives you more choices.
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Maybe 500mA LDO will be plenty?
DC/DC 600mA 6V max
www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/NR4018...87-1671-1-ND/1008286
www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/XC9236...93-1162-1-ND/2512403
$1.20 plus two caps.
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TI has a little integrated controller, that can handle up to 17V, looks pretty good but a few cents more.
www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/TPS621...6-29879-1-ND/2781002
www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/BRC201...87-2905-1-ND/2649025
$1.64 plus caps.
Higher efficiency (close to 90%) also means less heat on that board being burned off. 7.6V - 3.3v x 0.23A = 0.99W
Exar Corporation SPX3819M5-L-3-3/TR takes 16V in, a bipolar LDO 500mA. typ 220mV dropout at 250mA. www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/SPX381...16-1873-1-ND/3586590 An LDO on the USB +5V rail may allow the 6V max type.
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www.banggood.com/5Pcs-Mini-DC-Adjustable...Module-p-952402.html
For a low current voltdrop, (but stable), use a zener and resistor, it is better than a diode in series.
With regards to production, do you have royaltees/rights? Otherwise, I think hard to beat the plenty of chinese rc manufactuars and the modules could be in stores soon and cheap, low margins?
I think the deviation project is excellent!
I beleive the future is full digital like deviation, I avoid ppm and just nice to use with your old Tx.
I beleive in truly open diy Tx platform, basically a market generic ARM board, PI, Beaglebone, Mbed etc etc board with plenty of IO and features onboard, as audio out, imu .. There are plenty cheap baords on the market. Board can be hooked up wired to all pots and switches in you TX of choice, connected to the universal tx module. (in addition many possibilities for expansion hooking up additional modules etc)
As such there would be a powerfull universal Tx deviation platform opening up to much more diy people and lead to stronger software development. There are plenty of creative or crazy ideas which could be made possible. In that case only limetid by software, not anylonger by hardware developed by Walkera.
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There are no royalties or rights to be had. The design is entirely open source. But I only have limited contacts. Finding someone to sell them will be critical. China seems most promising, but really anyone outside the US will probably be fine. I could do it myself for anyone not within the US, but my market is probably mostly here, and I'll need at least some volume to bring costs down.
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The TI part will go to 100% duty cycle while the MP2307 will go to 90%. This is a good point in battery operated equipment where you want to maximize battery use. MP2307 will work with higher current, up to 3A, and does not look to be optimal for this application.
Using a switcher carries some risk in that the switching noise needs to be understood and tolerable, and/or more filtering may be required. I would look at spectral sidebands for eventual Vdd noise injection. A higher switching frequency will probably be easier to filter out, using smaller inductor. (approx. -50dB with a 2.2uH + 1uF LC filter, if needed)
If battery-life is a priority the TI switcher plus an LDO on the USB rail could work.
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(p-p or rms?)
Should that be a problem, the above suggested extra coil of 2.2uH 0805 and 1uF cap will lower it by 50dB.
The only way to know is to test it.
Getting rid of 1W of heat on that small PCB should be a bonus for temp sensitive stuff, oscillators etc, besides perhaps doubling battery life?
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