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05 Oct 2016 11:59 #54624 by epilot
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I seem to be having intermittent E010 issues with my Devo10 with 3in1 module as well (bought from Bangood). Occasionally it will lose bind or react wrong to the controls. I get the same with the H8mini when flying that with the Devo10. I can only bind with 1mW output.

I might try to replace the 3in1 with a nrf24l01 board only. Mind you, the nrf board I tried to fit in my 7E would not work properly and in the end I put it down to being a dud module. Is there a know good source for modules?

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05 Oct 2016 13:39 #54628 by epilot
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Issues with the E010 are reported on a number of threads but I just saw Goebish post about power consumption. Before doing anything else I will try to use a separate 3.3V regulator to power the 3in1.

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06 Oct 2016 18:15 #54671 by wasp09
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Which protocol do we use to work with e010? What makes it special for FPV?

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06 Oct 2016 18:21 - 06 Oct 2016 18:23 #54673 by epilot
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An update on the behavior: Power on the E010 and lights flash fast. Power on Devo10 and lights go solid. However sometimes they will start to flash slowly after a few seconds. As soon as I move the A/E stick just a tiny amount the lights go solid again. I sometimes happens in flight if the A/E stick is in neutral. I have calibrated the sticks several times to no avail.

If I bind on 1mW, it loses bind as soon as I increase the power to 3mW. No luck binding at higher output either.
Last edit: 06 Oct 2016 18:23 by epilot.

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06 Oct 2016 18:48 #54675 by goebish
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wasp09 wrote: Which protocol do we use to work with e010?

MJXq / E010

What makes it special for FPV?

Google "Tiny Whoop"

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06 Oct 2016 22:32 #54686 by coryroyce
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What is the simplest 4-in-1 module currently available to use with the Devo 8s? Can you point me in the direction of the complete install tutorial for the 8s?

I saw some talk in this tread about a newer/better/simpler version of the 4-in-1 coming out soon, is this the best thread to follow for the details of when it will come out and how to install it on the Devo 8s? (Is it this product that is already available, or is this one being updated?) www.banggood.com/2_4G-CC2500-A7105-Flysk....html?rmmds=category

Thanks in advanced for any help.

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07 Oct 2016 21:49 #54703 by epilot
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As the voltage drops on the battery in the Devo 10, I get more and more dropouts. It only seems to happen when the right stick is stationary. As soon as I move it I have control back. I find it odd that a power issue manifests itself this way but then I'm no expert on the subject.

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09 Oct 2016 03:19 #54740 by jayodas
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@epilot Ok, so I'm definitely not the only person experiencing this problem with controlling the Eachine e010 with the 3 in 1 module. The behavior you describe is quite similar to mine. Once successfully bound at 1mw transmit power, if I increase the transmit power, I either lose the bind or the quad motors will run at full throttle when I give any throttle input. Next weekend I am going to install a Pololu 3.3v regulator to power the 3 in 1 and see if this changes.

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09 Oct 2016 10:12 #54745 by epilot
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It flies so nicely with a proper TX but these dropouts are very annoying and makes it nearly impossible to fly it FPV. I have ordered a 3.3V regulator but it will take app. 2-3 weeks to reach me.
I have also ordered a couple of different NRF24L01 modules to install in a 7E I have or potentially in the 10 if a voltage reg doesn't fix the issue. I also use NRF24L01 with the Hisky brick receivers I use for indoor planes.

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09 Oct 2016 13:24 #54750 by DaveyP
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Sorry to say...
But using the 4 in 1 (from Taobao) on a 7e with the Eachine e010 .ini written and posted by Alias_Hendrik and with tx set to 30mw
There are no dropouts or binding issues

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09 Oct 2016 13:26 #54751 by epilot
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It might well be that the 4in1 uses a better chipset.

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09 Oct 2016 13:46 #54753 by vlad_vy
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4in1 use own 3.3V regulator just as original RF module.

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09 Oct 2016 14:41 #54755 by DaveyP
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vlad_vy wrote: 4in1 use own 3.3V regulator just as original RF module.


Ahhhhhh.. thank you

I'll remember that when I fit the Banggood 3 in 1 to my spare 7e and take the appropriate action when I get issues.

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10 Oct 2016 23:16 - 10 Oct 2016 23:18 #54806 by Tjackson
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Just finished reading all 46 pages, have my 3in1 coming from an eBay seller to install in my devo 10. I hope it is the latest revision, hard to tell as apparently their are no identifying marks. I would really like a 4in1 because I would love to have only one antenna. Going to install 3in1 for now, I can always plug the extra antenna hole if\when I get 4in1. I got 3in1 before reading this thread.
Last edit: 10 Oct 2016 23:18 by Tjackson. Reason: Spell check

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10 Oct 2016 23:37 #54807 by Tjackson
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Btw, y'all are awesome, thanks so much for all the contributions!!

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11 Oct 2016 00:21 #54809 by wasp09
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goebish wrote:

wasp09 wrote: Which protocol do we use to work with e010?

MJXq / E010

What makes it special for FPV?

Google "Tiny Whoop"


Thanks. Ordered a JJRC H36. I'll see how it works.

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11 Oct 2016 05:09 - 11 Oct 2016 05:13 #54814 by vlad_vy
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vlad_vy wrote: Warning!!!

For three my 4in1 modules I have different output power test results:
1. First tested 4in1 module, all 4 RF chips have about equal power.
Test results:
www.deviationtx.com/forum/3-feedback-que...100mw?start=20#53383

2. Second 4in1 module has even higher output power for three RF chips (~84mW), but for A7105 it has much lower output power ~15mW. I don't understand how it possible with single PA.

3. Third 4in1 module has about half output power ~32mW (or lower) for all RF chips.


It's almost false warning. Now I have six 4in1 modules, and only one has problem (article #2). The reason for half output power is a bad contact on the path to antenna connector, after reseating both UFL connectors (one at module and other at small board with antenna connector, Devo 8s) I have full power for all five modules (deviation about - 5mW ). I thinking about to remove UFL connector near antenna connector and solder antenna cable directly to antenna connector for reliability.

Devo 8s (4in1 module)

Protocol Devo (CYRF6936)
150mW = 74.38mW
100mW = 63.10mW
30mW = 33.77mW
10mW = 8.48mW
3mW = 3.27mW
1mW = 880uW
300uW = 180uW
100uW = 50uW

Protocol Hubsan4 (A7105)
150mW = 79.43mW
100mW = 79.43mW
30mW = 76.86mW
10mW = 53.53mW
3mW = 20.21mW
1mW = 6.52mW
300uW = 3.61mW
100uW = 1.63mW

Protocol S-FHSS (CC2500)
150mW = 55.32mW
100mW = 48.50mW
30mW = 28.73mW
10mW = 18.36mW
3mW = 10.00mW
1mW = 6.52mW
300uW = 3.98mW
100uW = 2.75mW

Protocol SymaX (NRF24L01)
150mW = 79.43mW
100mW = 79.43mW
30mW = 79.43mW
10mW = 65.21mW
3mW = 65.21mW
1mW = 20.21mW
300uW = 20.21mW
100uW = 20.21mW
Last edit: 11 Oct 2016 05:13 by vlad_vy.

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11 Oct 2016 15:32 #54823 by Tjackson
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Just ordered 4in1 from taobao focus. In the taobao focus site I entered my work address and on PayPal I forgot to change and has it shipping to my home address, doesn't really matter to me unless I have to sign for it work is better, sure hope this doesn't cause confusion or delay in shipping.

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11 Oct 2016 17:54 - 11 Oct 2016 17:55 #54829 by BirdBarber
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@Tjackson

When I ordered a 4-in-1 using TaobaoFocus it came First Class International, not Registered Mail, so I didn't have to sign for it.
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11 Oct 2016 18:34 #54830 by Tjackson
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@birdbarber thanks for the info on how to navigate through the taobao focus site, somewhat cryptic with the Navy blue or blue and such, also the main category it is listed under is "casual pants"!!!

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