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11 Oct 2016 15:22 #54822 by sfersystem
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I tried and i win 10 meters bitween 50 and 42 ..
this range seems to be a bit low no ?

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15 Oct 2016 07:00 #54949 by sfersystem
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Hi,

I saw in some topics that i could adjust the signal with freq-fine and freq-course.
what is the role of these two settings

Some people say they can reach about 800m with the cc2500 pa lna.

Thank for help

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15 Oct 2016 07:56 #54950 by Arakon
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Increase freq-fine until the light on the receiver starts flickering slower/not smoothly anymore. Remember the value. Decrease freq-fine until it happens again. Then set it to a value in between the positive and negative values you got earlier.. i.e. if you get the flicker at +40 and -20, set it to +20.

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15 Oct 2016 08:40 - 15 Oct 2016 11:40 #54953 by sfersystem
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Thank you Arakon, i got +23 and -36, if i understand good, the value is -5 !

i didn"t get more range with -5 instead the 0 stock value, right ?

And what about the freq course ?
I have the not flickering green led between -36 to +89
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15 Oct 2016 19:14 #54990 by Arakon
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-13 actually. Coarse shouldn't usually be needed, but you can experiment with that in the same way.

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15 Oct 2016 20:45 - 15 Oct 2016 21:42 #54992 by sfersystem
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Arakon wrote: -13 actually. Coarse shouldn't usually be needed, but you can experiment with that in the same way.


Thank you very much for your help.

Just want to know if with the multi-module 1.3 and the CC2500 PA LNA if i can expect a better range than now.

What should i do to increase it a little. 600 to 800 m would be great !
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16 Oct 2016 20:01 #55017 by sfersystem
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Arakon, you wrote that, so i have a problem with my setup, my cc2500 is not the good one ?

Thank for help

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16 Oct 2016 22:08 - 16 Oct 2016 22:09 #55019 by aMax
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Who knows?
Such a rc setup consists of several parts, even a proper antenna setup.
.... on both sides.

Devo7e, TaranisQ X7, R9M , 4in1 MM, Futaba FC18plusV3.2 & DFT/FLD-02
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17 Oct 2016 07:43 #55035 by Fernandez
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Offtopic ON/

Just came across this guys developments; open source Firmware for Frsky Receivers, so f.i. you can upgrade and get S-Bus out of D4R Receiver. fishpepper.de/projects/
This is not the same as the project from Midelic, Arduino DIY Receivers....

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17 Oct 2016 20:43 #55072 by sfersystem
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aMax wrote: Who knows?
Such a rc setup consists of several parts, even a proper antenna setup.
.... on both sides.


This evening, i just try 3 x 2.4 different antenna, and it's quite same result. i even tried with the big DEVO10 antenna, same results.
On my DR4-II i change both antenna with new ones, and nothing change.

What can you advice ?
Thank you.

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17 Oct 2016 20:52 - 17 Oct 2016 21:50 #55073 by aMax
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Any photo available of your quad and the mounted receiver?

Edit:
I already posted this link , but I think, it is worth doing it a second time.
In the near-field it has no big influence of the connetion quality (reflection etc) but at longer distance it comes to the point.


Edit2:
Since you have a D4R-II, the best orientation for the antennas will be in parallel and upwards, maybe a little tilt backwards because of the angle your quad is flying at a certain speed.
Why? This receiver has two antennas, but one is for receiving and one for transmitting the telemetry.

Devo7e, TaranisQ X7, R9M , 4in1 MM, Futaba FC18plusV3.2 & DFT/FLD-02
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18 Oct 2016 08:46 #55086 by sfersystem
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aMax wrote: Any photo available of your quad and the mounted receiver?

Edit:
I already posted this link , but I think, it is worth doing it a second time.
In the near-field it has no big influence of the connetion quality (reflection etc) but at longer distance it comes to the point.

Edit2:
Since you have a D4R-II, the best orientation for the antennas will be in parallel and upwards, maybe a little tilt backwards because of the angle your quad is flying at a certain speed.
Why? This receiver has two antennas, but one is for receiving and one for transmitting the telemetry.


Very interresting, Thank you
But I hardly believe that the location of the antenna divided by 4 the scope of this rx, i think it's something else in conbination.
Here the mount
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18 Oct 2016 09:34 - 18 Oct 2016 10:25 #55087 by aMax
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Seeing your white Devo10 ( high gain antenna) I have no idea at the moment what reason could be.....
I get 700m out of my cheap DIY rx with a single dipole mounted like this.

static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/5...7-1vlcsnap-00201.JPG

Edit:
The only difference could be in the RF module you are using, because Arakon and I have the blue one from BG and no finetune was necessary.
To watch his flight search Arakon on YT and " Flight to the castle" (one year ago)...... (Devo7e and D4R-II)

Devo7e, TaranisQ X7, R9M , 4in1 MM, Futaba FC18plusV3.2 & DFT/FLD-02
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18 Oct 2016 10:36 #55088 by sfersystem
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Ok, for the price, i can give a try -> this one right ?

Except the colour of the shield, mine seems to be the same one, here

Will make another test with the antenna outside the frame. thank you

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18 Oct 2016 11:37 - 18 Oct 2016 11:39 #55089 by aMax
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Yes, the BG one is what we use and I hope the quality did not change.Your RF module is a bit different, solder pads for
a soldered antenna on the top right.
Although the description is a copy of the BG one, they are advertising it with 100mW output. but, +17dBm is only about 50mW, which is in the range of the original FrSky D8 modules. You can add 2dBm for a normal antenna, so you will
have +19dBm overall ( 79.4 mW).or in your case even more.

Devo7e, TaranisQ X7, R9M , 4in1 MM, Futaba FC18plusV3.2 & DFT/FLD-02
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18 Oct 2016 11:53 #55091 by dado099
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aMax wrote: Yes, the BG one is what we use and I hope the quality did not change.

I hope too, but with a recent sudden price drop from 10$ to 4$, there shoul be a reason.....

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18 Oct 2016 12:15 #55093 by sfersystem
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Same results with the antenna outside. got 200 to 250m
I just order the CC2500 from BG.
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18 Oct 2016 16:10 - 18 Oct 2016 16:23 #55104 by aMax
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If you had placed the one on the top like you did with one straight at the back, I think it would have been fine.
Remember, both should have the same polarization as the antenna on the transmitter!

Devo7e, TaranisQ X7, R9M , 4in1 MM, Futaba FC18plusV3.2 & DFT/FLD-02
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18 Oct 2016 21:33 - 18 Oct 2016 21:39 #55117 by sfersystem
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aMax wrote: You can add 2dBm for a normal antenna, so you will
have +19dBm overall ( 79.4 mW).or in your case even more.


I have already a 2db antenna, you say i can add a second antenna to solder on the CC2500 chip and let the cable in the TX ?

aMax wrote: Remember, both should have the same polarization as the antenna on the transmitter!


Usually i fly with my TX antenna curved, but if i understand, it is better to fly with the TX antenna straight ?

Another thing come in my mind, i bought my dr4-II last month. Normally it should have the 27ms firmware. I'm using the DR4-II in ppm mode with only 4 channel
Does that make something to the range ?

I'm so sad that the x protocol have ever dropouts, i have a XSR waiting to be mounted on my quad :(

Thank all for help
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18 Oct 2016 22:31 #55119 by hexfet
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sfersystem wrote: I'm so sad that the x protocol have ever dropouts, i have a XSR waiting to be mounted on my quad :(


The FrskyX dropout issue is fixed in recent nightly builds. petsmith found the problem.

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