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15 Mar 2015 11:50 - 15 Mar 2015 11:52 #29728 by SeByDocKy
FlySky (1-way) new protocol variant was created by SeByDocKy
Hi,

There are new toys using the classic & old FlySky protocol but from now they add many new channels for :

1) Turn on/off light
2) Flip
3) Turn on/off camera
4) Take a photo
5) Headless mode
6) pseudo RTH

7) Gyro calibration-X
8à Gyro calibration-Y

In the following file, I captured for [1-6]:

mon-partage.fr/f/Wca2BOnk/

I only observed 3 time-varying signals... I deduced there is no MISO in the RF daughter pinout ...
Last edit: 15 Mar 2015 11:52 by SeByDocKy.

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18 Mar 2015 20:09 #29840 by goebish
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I'll have a look into that.

Problem is that the flysky protocol is already using 8 channels when wltoy "extension" is enabled, that means we would need 16 channels to control everything ?

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18 Mar 2015 20:13 - 18 Mar 2015 20:13 #29841 by SeByDocKy
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goebish wrote: I'll have a look into that.

Problem is that the flysky protocol is already using 8 channels when wltoy "extension" is enabled, that means we would need 16 channels to control everything ?


I can check with a former WLtoys Flysky radio if some channels are in common
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18 Mar 2015 20:14 #29842 by goebish
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not required, I'll see that in the capture.

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18 Mar 2015 22:32 #29847 by Deal57
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I've been looking at these captures for the camera because I'm still learning the Flysky protocol. So maybe this can save you some time, but if I've got it wrong please let me know.

It looks to me like the V686 uses Word 8 to toggle the camera. At bind, Word 8 is set to 0x4000. To shoot a single photo, word 8 goes to 0x5000 then back to 0x4000 (about 1 second?). For the video recorder, word 8 goes from 0x4000 to 0x4100 and appears to stay there until it's turned off and returns to 0x4000.

This is different than what I see in the V912 captures.

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18 Mar 2015 22:37 - 18 Mar 2015 23:21 #29848 by goebish
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I think I already found camera recording on/off:
byte 15, bit 1 ( packet[14] | 0x01 )

Flip button:
byte 15, bit 8 ( packet[14] | 0x80 )

Light:
byte 15, bit 7 ( packet[14] | 0x40 )

I'm documenting headless mode but it looks a bit more tricky.
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18 Mar 2015 23:42 - 19 Mar 2015 12:31 #29851 by goebish
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So,
WLToys v686

a7105 3 wire spi

packet size: 21 bytes

packet format:
00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 
aa bb cc dd ee ff gg hh ii jj kk ll mm nn oo pp qq rr ss tt uu

aa: 
    packet type, 0xAA = bind, 0x55 = data
bb cc dd ee: 
    tx id ? 0xCE543102
ff gg: 
    channel data, 1000-2000 LSByte first ? DC05 = 05DC = 1500
hh ii: 
    channel data, 1000-2000 LSByte first ?
jj kk: 
    throttle channel data, 1000-2000 LSByte first ?
ll mm: 
    channel data, 1000-2000 LSByte first ?
nn: 
    bit 8 (0x80): HIGH for headless mode
    bit 7 (0x40): 0
    bit 6 (0x20): 0
    bit 5 (0x10): 0
    bit 4 (0x08): 0
    bit 3 (0x04): 0
    bit 2 (0x02): 0
    bit 1 (0x01): 0
oo:
    bit 8 (0x80): HIGH = flip button is pushed ?
    bit 7 (0x40): HIGH = Light on ?
    bit 6 (0x20): HIGH = headless mode button is pushed ? toggles nn.8 
    bit 5 (0x10): HIGH = take picture button is pushed ?
    bit 4 (0x08): HIGH = headless_mode_two button ? ("RTH"?)
    bit 3 (0x04): 0
    bit 2 (0x02): 0
    bit 1 (0x01): HIGH = camera record on ?
 
pp: 0x10
qq: 0x10
rr: 0xAA
ss: 0xAA
tt: always changing, range 0x40-0x70, not a checksum because it changes even if other bytes don't
uu: 0x02
quad_on_TX_on_photo_on_photo_off_several_times.logicdata tx packets:
gist.github.com/goebish/15b8f73bd0b4fbffc0bc

This is the first time I'm having a look at a "FlySky" protocol, and there's something weird when i compare this to deviation code, channels data are not encoded the same way, in the v686 capture we have a simple 1500 = 05DC = DC05 for neutral, but in deviation flysky code I see:
s32 value = (s32)Channels[i] * 0x1f1 / CHAN_MAX_VALUE + 0x5d9;
if (value < 0)
    value = 0;
packet[5 + i*2] = value & 0xff;
packet[6 + i*2] = (value >> 8) & 0xff;
(or maybe I'm wrong and this code just converts the deviation value to 1500 neutral, I haven't touched deviation code for a while :blush:)

I still haven't really looked at bind procedure and channel hopping sequence, but are you sure an older TX is compatible with this model ?
Last edit: 19 Mar 2015 12:31 by goebish.

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18 Mar 2015 23:50 #29852 by mwm
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Channels 5-8 in the older flysky protocol aren't used by the Rx. They are used in the Tx to cause bits to toggle in the lower four channels.

We've looked into this for v912/915 support, which uses some of the older channels, and some new stuff as well. One thing that might be useful is that I did a build that let you set values in channels 5-10 that set the WLToys bits in channels 1-6. I don't believe we ever got confirmation about what was and wasn't working.

If the v686 uses normal values on channels 5-8, then it won't be compatible with the old WLToys options. Adding a "WLToys2" option may be required.

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19 Mar 2015 00:26 #29860 by goebish
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You're right, it would probably be easier to have a menu in which we can set RC channel X = byte Y / bit Z in the packet...

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19 Mar 2015 06:13 #29869 by SeByDocKy
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goebish wrote: So,

WLToys v686

a7105 3 wire spi

packet size: 21 bytes

packet format:
00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 
aa bb cc dd ee ff gg hh ii jj kk ll mm nn oo pp qq rr ss tt uu

aa: 
    packet type, 0xAA = bind, 0x55 = data
bb cc dd ee: 
    tx id ? 0xCE543102
ff gg: 
    channel data, 1000-2000 LSByte first ? DC05 = 05DC = 1500
hh ii: 
    channel data, 1000-2000 LSByte first ?
jj kk: 
    throttle channel data, 1000-2000 LSByte first ?
ll mm: 
    channel data, 1000-2000 LSByte first ?
nn: 
    bit 8 (0x80): HIGH for headless mode
    bit 7 (0x40): 0
    bit 6 (0x20): 0
    bit 5 (0x10): 0
    bit 4 (0x08): 0
    bit 3 (0x04): 0
    bit 2 (0x02): 0
    bit 1 (0x01): 0
oo:
    bit 8 (0x80): HIGH = flip button is pushed ?
    bit 7 (0x40): HIGH = Light on ?
    bit 6 (0x20): HIGH = headless mode button is pushed ? toggles nn.8 
    bit 5 (0x10): HIGH = take picture button is pushed ?
    bit 4 (0x08): HIGH = headless_mode_two button ? ("RTH"?)
    bit 3 (0x04): 0
    bit 2 (0x02): 0
    bit 1 (0x01): HIGH = camera record on ?
 
pp: 0x10
qq: 0x10
rr: 0xAA
ss: 0xAA
tt: always changing, not a checksum because it changes even if other bytes don't
uu: 0x02
quad_on_TX_on_photo_on_photo_off_several_times.logicdata tx packets:
gist.github.com/goebish/15b8f73bd0b4fbffc0bc

This is the first time I'm having a look at a "FlySky" protocol, and there's something weird when i compare this to deviation code, channels data are not encoded the same way, in the v686 capture we have a simple 1500 = 05DC = DC05 for neutral, but in deviation flysky code I see:
s32 value = (s32)Channels[i] * 0x1f1 / CHAN_MAX_VALUE + 0x5d9;
if (value < 0)
    value = 0;
packet[5 + i*2] = value & 0xff;
packet[6 + i*2] = (value >> 8) & 0xff;
(or maybe I'm wrong and this code just converts the deviation value to 1500 neutral, I haven't touched deviation code for a while :blush:)

I still haven't really looked at bind procedure and channel hopping sequence, but are you sure an older TX is compatible with this model ?


Yes it's compatible, I can fly it with the actual FlySky protocol ...
For the two lefts channels, there are main probably corresponding the compass calibration in X & Y respectively

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19 Mar 2015 10:31 - 19 Mar 2015 11:09 #29870 by goebish
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Ok, I'll build a test firmware with a WLToys v6x6 option setting.

For which TX should I build it ?
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19 Mar 2015 11:24 - 19 Mar 2015 11:26 #29871 by goebish
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I need to know a few more things:

Are headless mode, headless mode 2 (?), take picture and flip some momentary buttons ?

Oh, and we will need 10 channels to control everything ...
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19 Mar 2015 12:38 #29874 by SeByDocKy
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goebish wrote: Ok, I'll build a test firmware with a WLToys v6x6 option setting.

For which TX should I build it ?


If you can give me the new flysky.c ... I will rebuild it and merge it with my repo ...

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19 Mar 2015 12:39 #29875 by goebish
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Oh you can build now, cool :)

I'll create a Wltoys V6x6 branch in my repo.

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19 Mar 2015 12:41 #29876 by SeByDocKy
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goebish wrote: I need to know a few more things:

Are headless mode, headless mode 2 (?), take picture and flip some momentary buttons ?

Oh, and we will need 10 channels to control everything ...


1) For Headless, you have to press more than 3s the lower right pannel button
2) For RTH, more than 3s the left shoulder button
3) For picture, instant press the middle right pannel button
4) For flip, instant press the right shoulder buton

10 Channels, maybe more if you include the gyro-x and gyro-y channels (I didn't capture them coz I am afraid to detune the actual setting of the AOC of my V686G)

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19 Mar 2015 12:44 #29877 by goebish
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Ok, what is the "quad_on_TX_on_light_headless_mode_twol_times.logicdata" capture file, is it RTH ?

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19 Mar 2015 12:55 #29878 by SeByDocKy
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goebish wrote: Ok, what is the "quad_on_TX_on_light_headless_mode_twol_times.logicdata" capture file, is it RTH ?


Yes probably ... I get wrong in the name of this file .... thanks to point that :)

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19 Mar 2015 13:48 #29879 by goebish
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You can checkout this branch:
bitbucket.org/goebish/deviation/branch/WLToys%20V6x6

or just this patch:
bitbucket.org/goebish/deviation/commits/...534d7e0e6b9e95ad8d22

There's a new option in FlySky protocol settings screen:

WLToys ext. : Off / V9x9 / V6x6

When V6x6 is enabled:

Channel 5: Lights
Channel 6: flip button
Channel 7: take picture button
Channel 8: record video
Channel 9: headless mode
Channel 10: RTH

I'm not sure headless & RTH does work, please report :)

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19 Mar 2015 15:09 #29881 by SeByDocKy
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goebish wrote: You can checkout this branch:
bitbucket.org/goebish/deviation/branch/WLToys%20V6x6

or just this patch:
bitbucket.org/goebish/deviation/commits/...534d7e0e6b9e95ad8d22

There's a new option in FlySky protocol settings screen:

WLToys ext. : Off / V9x9 / V6x6

When V6x6 is enabled:

Channel 5: Lights
Channel 6: flip button
Channel 7: take picture button
Channel 8: record video
Channel 9: headless mode
Channel 10: RTH

I'm not sure headless & RTH does work, please report :)


Still at work ... but it's compiling fine at least :)

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19 Mar 2015 15:23 - 19 Mar 2015 15:23 #29883 by Deal57
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mwm wrote: Channels 5-8 in the older flysky protocol aren't used by the Rx. They are used in the Tx to cause bits to toggle in the lower four channels.

We've looked into this for v912/915 support, which uses some of the older channels, and some new stuff as well. One thing that might be useful is that I did a build that let you set values in channels 5-10 that set the WLToys bits in channels 1-6. I don't believe we ever got confirmation about what was and wasn't working.

If the v686 uses normal values on channels 5-8, then it won't be compatible with the old WLToys options. Adding a "WLToys2" option may be required.


I can confirm that the "bits" version of the Devo 7e dfu from 2/27 does not do anything for the V912 camera. I tried setting the 40 and 80 values in channels 5, 6, 7, 8 9 and 10, but nothing caused the camera to function. However, in your notes you suggested using channel 10 for these values, but I could never get the UI to allow me more than 8 channels. I doesn't seem to work for me.

Thanks for your continued efforts... both of you!!!

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