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11 Sep 2013 23:08 #13716 by jm1974
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Hi,

I've been using this excellent firmware for a while now. However I've got a calibration problem that just seems to get worse and worse. I've been using solely the buttons for some time. But now I can't even get into the model selection. Sure I can work around it by going to the model setup and load a file but I would like some help debugging. I've posted two videos, one with deviationtx where it is seriously not calibrated although I do the calibration. And another where I put back the original firmware and where there is "only" a much smaller problem in the lower middle part of the screen.

Any ideas are welcome

Thanks!

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12 Sep 2013 09:11 #13725 by rbe2012
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I looked at your video. I assume that every time you repeat the calibrating the results are similar.
It looks as if the touch sensor in y-direction does not work correctly. The test screen shows correct values for x (near 0 to greater 310). For y they are in a very small range.
It is interesting that the touches are recognized where ever you touch the screen so there are no "blind" areas. Maybe we could try to optimize it by recalculating the calibration values manually. Please post them (they are in the tx.ini) - maybe try recalibations and post a couple of them. I will look at them later and give you new values to test.
Another way: I have increased touch screen accuracy for the Devo12. I can give you a dfu-file to test with.

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12 Sep 2013 11:01 #13729 by RandMental
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If I remember correctly there is a touchscreen connector in the 8S on the bottom right hand side of the PCB (Looking from the back after removing the back panel).

To me it sounds like a bad connection since you said it became progressively worse. Open the TX and wiggle the connector a bit, it might just be oxidation or humidity on the connector pins.

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12 Sep 2013 19:53 #13741 by jm1974
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Current one
[touch]
xscale=197312
yscale=147271
xoffset=-404
yoffset=-20

Another one from a while ago
[touch]
xscale=189176
yscale=135926
xoffset=-384
yoffset=-8

Here's a pretty strange one I was able to produce yesterday
[touch]
xscale=-965793
yscale=1101004
xoffset=2996
yoffset=-754

I wouldn't mind the dfu file

Thanks

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12 Sep 2013 22:14 - 12 Sep 2013 22:16 #13745 by jm1974
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RandMental wrote: If I remember correctly there is a touchscreen connector in the 8S on the bottom right hand side of the PCB (Looking from the back after removing the back panel).


Not sure where that would be. I took it apart but didn't see anything obvious. Here's a picture of it
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14 Sep 2013 08:24 - 14 Sep 2013 08:29 #13780 by rbe2012
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14 Sep 2013 08:29 #13781 by rbe2012
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I have uploaded a dfu file for Devo8 in the development section ( http://www.deviationtx.com/forum/builds/2184-devo8-with-some-improvements-esp-touch-screen#13779 ).
You can try this and see if the results of some calibrations are now in a smaller range.

To get to the connector you have to remove the board. It is located in the middle at the bottom. From the back side you see two rows of pins - this is where the connector is soldered. When I remember right, there is another board connected which has a foil connector to the display. Try to check if the connection of this foil connector is good.

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14 Sep 2013 22:38 #13799 by jm1974
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Thank you very much rbe2012, I've tried it, it is very similar. I wouldn't be able to say whether it is better or not it is still far from useable.

I suppose I could take it apart, but I don't see how that could have something to do with it as with the walkera firmware I have only a problem in the lower middle part of the screen. Of course if you still think it is meaningful I'll try it.

Thank you very much for your efforts.
Johan

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14 Sep 2013 22:39 #13800 by jm1974
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almost forgot the tx.ini after install and calibration
[touch]
xscale=189176
yscale=220200
xoffset=-384
yoffset=-75

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17 Sep 2013 05:08 #13846 by richardclli
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Actually, Devo 8S used a resistive touch screen. When dirt/dust accumulated near the edges of the screen, these particles will give the screen pressures on the sides and make the touch screen inaccurate.

To solve this, you can disassemble the screen from the case and clean the edges of the screen and the case, hopefully you can get a good screen afterwards.

My screen have this problem before and I solve it using this method.

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26 Sep 2013 00:31 #14059 by jm1974
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richardclli wrote: To solve this, you can disassemble the screen from the case and clean the edges of the screen and the case, hopefully you can get a good screen afterwards.


Thanks for the tip. Didn't work for me though.

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26 Sep 2013 15:34 #14074 by HeliBen
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I have had this same problem for some time. I've been using the buttons to navigate through the screens. I'd love to figure out the issue. The tough screen was great when it worked properly.

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26 Sep 2013 21:25 #14078 by jm1974
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I haven't been able to use the buttons for some navigations, for instance from the main screen I can only access the telemetry view and I haven't figured out how to access model settings, model change and tx settings. Does this exist with some magic button combination? It would definately help me a lot.

In the meanwhile I'm ordering a new screen from the retailer that sold the tx to me. He's asking 22€ for it. I've seen somewhere on this forum that you can get it for 20$ but I can't find any information on that.

Cheers.

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27 Sep 2013 04:26 #14088 by FDR
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Wow, can't you even touch the large model icon?
...or the model nam, which is large enough too?
Then you have serious fault indeed...

You can access anything with the buttons, like it is decribed in the manual pn page 9.
For example on the main page press long ENT, then you can navigate with the up/down buttons, and then press ENT.
Additionally you can assign the model setup page and the transmitter config page to be in the switching sequence from the main page, just like to the telemetry page from the main page config page (on the add control popup, depending on the version you use).

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29 Sep 2013 07:48 #14128 by jm1974
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FDR wrote: Wow, can't you even touch the large model icon?
...or the model nam, which is large enough too?

Well I can slide my finger from the bottom right up to the middle and it will activate the large model icon, nothing else works right now. So I'm thinking it is just a matter of time b4 everything stops working :)

FDR wrote: You can access anything with the buttons, like it is decribed in the manual pn page 9.
For example on the main page press long ENT, then you can navigate with the up/down buttons, and then press ENT.
Additionally you can assign the model setup page and the transmitter config page to be in the switching sequence from the main page, just like to the telemetry page from the main page config page (on the add control popup, depending on the version you use).


Awesome, thanks for the tip!

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24 Oct 2013 21:10 - 24 Oct 2013 21:16 #14930 by jm1974
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HELP! I bought a replacement screen from walkera. But how on earth do I go about changing it?!

I just tore some of the old connections while trying to remove the old one. I don't understand how the old one is fixed, it seems like some kind of glue. Is it normal that I won't be able to remove the old one without ruining it (if it's not yet done)? And once I've put the new one in place what do I use to make it stick to the circuit board?

I'm quite afraid I won't be able to fly in weeks without buying another tx :(
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28 Oct 2013 23:26 #15099 by jm1974
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Didn't anyone do this replacement?

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28 Oct 2013 23:31 #15100 by SadSack
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you have used soldering iron to desolder ribbon ?

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28 Oct 2013 23:32 #15101 by SadSack
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The sticky rubber like stuff could be removed with solvent. Small amount as a test first.

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29 Oct 2013 01:44 #15103 by jm1974
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No I didn't try soldering iron nor Solvent. Should I use both to get it off. Then how do I put the new one there? Not by soldering the pins one by one right?

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