problem hubsan protocol with devo 10

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04 Aug 2014 00:36 - 04 Aug 2014 14:06 #25007 by TomPeer
problem hubsan protocol with devo 10 was created by TomPeer
Hello

I have a strange problem using the hubsan protocol, with my devo 10.
first i used an existing model.ini from this forum. (i do not know which). as soon as i changed to this model my transmitter locked up. I even could not power down the transmitter. I had to disconnect the battery, go to the usb mode and remove the model.ini before i could use my devo 10 again.

After this i went to an empty model in the transmitter and only changed the protocol to hubsan. and again the same problem.

I use the latest nightly. but before that i used 4.0.1 and had the same problem.

I use several protocols with several heli's, no problem at all, only with hubsan.

Edit:
When i go to a new model, and change the protocol to hubsan. Nothing is wrong.
But when i go to another model and try to change back to hubsan, or when i turn the tx off and on again, i get a blanco screen and everything is locked up.

I hope somebody can help.

Thanks.
Last edit: 04 Aug 2014 14:06 by TomPeer.

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04 Aug 2014 21:02 #25018 by TomPeer
Replied by TomPeer on topic problem hubsan protocol with devo 10
I have tried every protocol. No problem at all.
Transmitter seems to be good. Looks like a software problem.

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05 Aug 2014 12:31 - 05 Aug 2014 12:32 #25031 by TomPeer
Replied by TomPeer on topic problem hubsan protocol with devo 10
I use a module from a 911 tx.
Is it posible hubsan doesn't work with this module.
Should i by a A7105-D03 and use the "nieuw" wire config?

Just a thought...
Last edit: 05 Aug 2014 12:32 by TomPeer.

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05 Aug 2014 16:17 #25035 by hexfet
Replied by hexfet on topic problem hubsan protocol with devo 10
How is your module wired now?

Do other protocols that use the A7105 module (e.g. Flysky) also cause problems?

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05 Aug 2014 16:49 #25036 by TomPeer
Replied by TomPeer on topic problem hubsan protocol with devo 10
it is the module from an original v911 tx.
only 6 pins
Gnd to Gnd (pin 5)
3.3v to 3.3v (pin 6)
SCS to TMS (pin 1)
SCK to SCK (pin 2)
Mosi to Mosi (pin 3)

Flying WLToys V911, V912, V913 V929, V939 and V959.
No problems there.

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05 Aug 2014 16:57 #25037 by TomPeer
Replied by TomPeer on topic problem hubsan protocol with devo 10
I tried all the protocols in the transmitter, they all work fine exept for Hubsan. When i go in to a new model and change to hubsan, everyting works fine. The problem starts when i have to go back to a model using hubsan protocal, then the transmitter locks up.

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05 Aug 2014 22:38 #25049 by hexfet
Replied by hexfet on topic problem hubsan protocol with devo 10
Don't have any other ideas. I fly a Hubsan X4 with my Devo 10 on the nightly version, though with a different (also non-PA) A7105 module.

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05 Aug 2014 23:03 #25050 by TomPeer
Replied by TomPeer on topic problem hubsan protocol with devo 10
Thank you for your reply.
I ordered an other Module, hopefully that helps.

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11 Aug 2014 15:26 #25146 by TomPeer
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I found the problem.
In the module installation guide is a table in which you can find the pin connections for each module.
There you can find that pin 3 from the CYRF module is GND.
I used that pin for ground.
DO NOT DO THAT.
I changed that to the GND pin next to the TCK and VCC connection and everything was ok.

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11 Aug 2014 16:30 #25148 by btoschi
Replied by btoschi on topic problem hubsan protocol with devo 10
Where do you have this information from ?

bitbucket.org/PhracturedBlue/deviation/wiki/ModuleList
Lists CYRF6936-DEVO to use pin 5 (lower center pin, check how pins are numbered!) as ground.

Also compare the picture where pins are properly marked:
bitbucket.org/repo/Ag6rxe/images/3966736255-CYRF6936-DEVO.jpg

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11 Aug 2014 17:01 - 11 Aug 2014 17:05 #25152 by TomPeer
Replied by TomPeer on topic problem hubsan protocol with devo 10
Downloads
Documentation
there you find:
Deviation10usermanual.pdf
Deviation8usermanual.pdf
and
Moduleinstallation.pdf
in there is a colorfull tabel on page 10.

In the picture in your link there is also a gnd pin on the cyrf, that's the one i used and gave problems.
Last edit: 11 Aug 2014 17:05 by TomPeer.

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11 Aug 2014 23:35 #25162 by PhracturedBlue
Replied by PhracturedBlue on topic problem hubsan protocol with devo 10
Sounds like possibly a bad connection. I have always used the ground pin on the CYRF module, and have never had a problem myself. It is also possible there is some ground noise due to the cyrf chip, but again, nothing I've ever noticed

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11 Aug 2014 23:47 #25164 by TomPeer
Replied by TomPeer on topic problem hubsan protocol with devo 10
I flew for about a half year with this configutation. Never had any trouble.
2 weeks ago i ordered a hubsan so i changed a model to hubsan protocol. This was the first time i experianced any trouble. Maybe i screwd up soldering, but then i should have had some trouble before.

After some extra reading here i saw that some "manuals" use another GND. That is the only thing i changed and it works.

Like i said, it could be a bad soldering job, but than i would expect things to go wrong before.

However... it al works now.

Thanks

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