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30 Sep 2014 22:13 #25893
by FrankV
mode 1/2 selection problem with Devo 10? was created by FrankV
First of all: I got my new Devo10 mode 2 receiver. Feels like a good transmitter. And with the deviation software: also good news! I really love the option to bind different models.
Deviationtx v401 (newest version downlaoded)
But there is an annoying point: my TX is mode 2 (throttle+rudder left).
But when I bind an DSMX receiver (and software assigned as mode 2) it seems that my throttle left will act (and is reported as) elevator, and the right stick (normally the elevator) has become the throttle.
Putting the software in mode 1 instead of mode 2 did solve the problem for my straight-forward programming receiver UMX (with DSMX), but mixes up channel names.
For a simple receiver that is not a big problem, but with a bit more advance programming and mixing this will introduce errors in progrommaning since names are switched.
So you can imagine that I'm not very happy with it - specially when using my helis or delta. This might cause me crash my heli when it starts unexpectedly (since the throttle is at 50%).
So is this a bug, or is there some installation that went wrong?
Somebody might have noticed this or has a solution?
Thanks!
Deviationtx v401 (newest version downlaoded)
But there is an annoying point: my TX is mode 2 (throttle+rudder left).
But when I bind an DSMX receiver (and software assigned as mode 2) it seems that my throttle left will act (and is reported as) elevator, and the right stick (normally the elevator) has become the throttle.
Putting the software in mode 1 instead of mode 2 did solve the problem for my straight-forward programming receiver UMX (with DSMX), but mixes up channel names.
For a simple receiver that is not a big problem, but with a bit more advance programming and mixing this will introduce errors in progrommaning since names are switched.
So you can imagine that I'm not very happy with it - specially when using my helis or delta. This might cause me crash my heli when it starts unexpectedly (since the throttle is at 50%).
So is this a bug, or is there some installation that went wrong?
Somebody might have noticed this or has a solution?
Thanks!
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01 Oct 2014 02:26 #25897
by mikemacwillie
Replied by mikemacwillie on topic mode 1/2 selection problem with Devo 10?
It sounds like a mixup in the mixer. It's probably using the flysky type channel order.
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01 Oct 2014 21:19 #25904
by FrankV
Replied by FrankV on topic mode 1/2 selection problem with Devo 10?
Hi Mike,
thanks for your respons.
As far as I can see there is no flysky selected.
I added the model setup of the UMX protocol and the tx ini file. Can you tell me what is wrong in the setup then?
When TX is setup as "mode 1", the channel will act to the left stick (and that is mode 2)
When TX is setup as "mode 2" I always get the warning that the throttle is 0% (instead of -100%) because it is bind to the right stick, whitch should be elevator.
TX in mode 1
CH1 = throttle
CH3 = elevator
TX in mode 2
CH1 = elevator
CH3 = throttle
The UMX receiver (DMX) needs
CH1: throttle
CH3: elevator
So far it works for this model (via mixer options, that is) but I wouldnt like that specially if I want to use other planes/heli's with more complicated mixer settings...
thanks for your respons.
As far as I can see there is no flysky selected.
I added the model setup of the UMX protocol and the tx ini file. Can you tell me what is wrong in the setup then?
When TX is setup as "mode 1", the channel will act to the left stick (and that is mode 2)
When TX is setup as "mode 2" I always get the warning that the throttle is 0% (instead of -100%) because it is bind to the right stick, whitch should be elevator.
TX in mode 1
CH1 = throttle
CH3 = elevator
TX in mode 2
CH1 = elevator
CH3 = throttle
The UMX receiver (DMX) needs
CH1: throttle
CH3: elevator
So far it works for this model (via mixer options, that is) but I wouldnt like that specially if I want to use other planes/heli's with more complicated mixer settings...
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01 Oct 2014 22:23 #25905
by Daryoon
Replied by Daryoon on topic mode 1/2 selection problem with Devo 10?
Sounds like a channel mapping issue like Mike alluded to above.
It's very flexible. And you can arrange the channels any way you want.
So go ahead and put your radio config back to MODE2.
And let's get your channel mapping to reflect what your UMX receiver want.
Here is the channel order for DSMX:
T
A
E
R
The Deviation guys made it really simple. When you create a model. Select DSM2 or DSMX as the protocol.
The mixer will automatically be configured to the channel order for Spektrum.
Then just invert the channels as needed. And set up the curves as needed.
It's very flexible. And you can arrange the channels any way you want.
So go ahead and put your radio config back to MODE2.
And let's get your channel mapping to reflect what your UMX receiver want.
Here is the channel order for DSMX:
T
A
E
R
The Deviation guys made it really simple. When you create a model. Select DSM2 or DSMX as the protocol.
The mixer will automatically be configured to the channel order for Spektrum.
Then just invert the channels as needed. And set up the curves as needed.
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01 Oct 2014 22:31 - 01 Oct 2014 22:33 #25906
by Daryoon
Replied by Daryoon on topic mode 1/2 selection problem with Devo 10?
In case it still confusing...try edit two locations in your model3.ini
Look at your channel one mix:
You say you wanted the source to be Throttle. But currently, src is ELE. So simply change it to THR. Here's the corrected code:
Next, apply the same concept to your Channel three:
Change the source from THR to ELE.
Hopefully that makes sense. And more importantly, hopefully it works the way you wanted. LOL
Look at your channel one mix:
[channel1]
safetysw=RUD DR1
safetyval=-100
template=simple
[mixer]
src=ELE
dest=Ch1
You say you wanted the source to be Throttle. But currently, src is ELE. So simply change it to THR. Here's the corrected code:
[channel1]
safetysw=RUD DR1
safetyval=-100
template=simple
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch1
Next, apply the same concept to your Channel three:
[channel3]
template=expo_dr
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch3
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch3
switch=ELE DR1
scalar=66
curvetype=expo
points=70,70
Change the source from THR to ELE.
[channel3]
template=expo_dr
[mixer]
src=ELE
dest=Ch3
[mixer]
src=ELE
dest=Ch3
switch=ELE DR1
scalar=66
curvetype=expo
points=70,70
Hopefully that makes sense. And more importantly, hopefully it works the way you wanted. LOL
Last edit: 01 Oct 2014 22:33 by Daryoon.
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06 Oct 2014 21:24 #25981
by FrankV
Replied by FrankV on topic mode 1/2 selection problem with Devo 10?
Hi Daryoon,
Thanks for your help! I really apreciate it.
As simple as it might be, I've tried dozens of possibilities, and I think I tried too the suggestion you did. But if I remember well: when restarting the Dev10 I got the error that throttle is at 0 (should be -100).
I must have something wrong, but the fact is: now it works with the changes you mentioned.
I'm not sure, but maybe I was mislead by the definition channel, versus "source" in the mixer menu - what it really means (so source in not the physical input channel).
But for now it is solved
Thanks for your help! I really apreciate it.
As simple as it might be, I've tried dozens of possibilities, and I think I tried too the suggestion you did. But if I remember well: when restarting the Dev10 I got the error that throttle is at 0 (should be -100).
I must have something wrong, but the fact is: now it works with the changes you mentioned.
I'm not sure, but maybe I was mislead by the definition channel, versus "source" in the mixer menu - what it really means (so source in not the physical input channel).
But for now it is solved
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06 Oct 2014 21:28 #25983
by FrankV
Replied by FrankV on topic mode 1/2 selection problem with Devo 10?
But there is now a new (minor) issue:
With the mode 2 setup, the "buddy box" setup is changed.
Buddyboxing with Dev7 and Devo10 (Devo10 = trainer, 7=student)
With D7/Mode 2 and D10 / mode 1 I had the TEAR you mentioned.
But now (D7/mode 2, D10/mode2) the PPM order has been changed.
Now it is EATR.
Is that normal, that PPM order changes / is different?
With the mode 2 setup, the "buddy box" setup is changed.
Buddyboxing with Dev7 and Devo10 (Devo10 = trainer, 7=student)
With D7/Mode 2 and D10 / mode 1 I had the TEAR you mentioned.
But now (D7/mode 2, D10/mode2) the PPM order has been changed.
Now it is EATR.
Is that normal, that PPM order changes / is different?
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