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Safety Issue with Devo 7e, 8S and 10
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18 Sep 2015 06:44 #37839
by Gerhard_H
Safety Issue with Devo 7e, 8S and 10 was created by Gerhard_H
Hi !
How can I avoid accidental running up of the motor/rotor - in case Flight Mode switch is on stunt mode for instance (and Throttle Hold not activated) ?
When I switch on the radio under such conditions I only get a warning that throttle safety value isn't safe, but it doesn't tell me the reason why. So I am entrapped to simply confirm with OK.
I remember my old Walkera 2801 radio which didn't run up with FM switch not zero.
Sorry, though I go with Deviation for quite a long time I am still not familiar with that whole mixer stuff (OK, I'll try my best . . .)
TIA
Gerhard
How can I avoid accidental running up of the motor/rotor - in case Flight Mode switch is on stunt mode for instance (and Throttle Hold not activated) ?
When I switch on the radio under such conditions I only get a warning that throttle safety value isn't safe, but it doesn't tell me the reason why. So I am entrapped to simply confirm with OK.
I remember my old Walkera 2801 radio which didn't run up with FM switch not zero.
Sorry, though I go with Deviation for quite a long time I am still not familiar with that whole mixer stuff (OK, I'll try my best . . .)
TIA
Gerhard
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18 Sep 2015 07:39 - 18 Sep 2015 07:45 #37842
by vlad_vy
Replied by vlad_vy on topic Safety Issue with Devo 7e, 8S and 10
I use a sticky throttle hold for that.
Virtual channel (Virt1 for me) = Complex Mix - 3 pages
1.Page 1:
Switch = None
Src = this virtual channel (Virt1 for me)
Curve = Min/Max
Scale = 100
Offset = 0
Mux = replace
2.Page 2:
Switch = None (FMOD0 for Heli)
Src = THR
Curve = 1-to-1
Scale = 100
Offset = -1
Mux = add
3.Page 3:
Switch = the switch who enable the throttle cut (RUD DR1 for me)
Src = none
Curve = Fixed
Scale = 100
Offset = 0
Mux = replace
Now you can use the virtual channel as safety switch for THR.
I don't use safety field for throttle channel, but aditional (last) page for throttle and pitch mixers with desired hold values and fixed curve.
Virtual channel (Virt1 for me) = Complex Mix - 3 pages
1.Page 1:
Switch = None
Src = this virtual channel (Virt1 for me)
Curve = Min/Max
Scale = 100
Offset = 0
Mux = replace
2.Page 2:
Switch = None (FMOD0 for Heli)
Src = THR
Curve = 1-to-1
Scale = 100
Offset = -1
Mux = add
3.Page 3:
Switch = the switch who enable the throttle cut (RUD DR1 for me)
Src = none
Curve = Fixed
Scale = 100
Offset = 0
Mux = replace
Now you can use the virtual channel as safety switch for THR.
I don't use safety field for throttle channel, but aditional (last) page for throttle and pitch mixers with desired hold values and fixed curve.
Last edit: 18 Sep 2015 07:45 by vlad_vy.
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19 Sep 2015 00:28 #37859
by mwm
Do not ask me questions via PM. Ask in the forums, where I'll answer if I can.
My remotely piloted vehicle ("drone") is a yacht.
Replied by mwm on topic Safety Issue with Devo 7e, 8S and 10
Well, if you ignore the warning, then there's not really much you can do.
it can't really tell you why the throttle output isn't at min - there could be any number of reasons for that, depending on the model config. Nuts, I think it's doing pretty good to figure out which channel is the throttle channel all by it's lonesome!
You should be familiar enough with the model config to know what switches/etc. would affect the throttle output, and verify that they are in the "safe" position for the model.
it can't really tell you why the throttle output isn't at min - there could be any number of reasons for that, depending on the model config. Nuts, I think it's doing pretty good to figure out which channel is the throttle channel all by it's lonesome!
You should be familiar enough with the model config to know what switches/etc. would affect the throttle output, and verify that they are in the "safe" position for the model.
Do not ask me questions via PM. Ask in the forums, where I'll answer if I can.
My remotely piloted vehicle ("drone") is a yacht.
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19 Sep 2015 02:22 #37868
by Gerhard_H
Replied by Gerhard_H on topic Safety Issue with Devo 7e, 8S and 10
@vlad_vy
Thx a lot, I'll try it out
Thx a lot, I'll try it out
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19 Sep 2015 09:10 #37877
by Gerhard_H
Replied by Gerhard_H on topic Safety Issue with Devo 7e, 8S and 10
@vlad_vy
Followed your advice and it works, off course (does the same as before).
But I don't have any idea what happens there so I've got to search for the manual . . .
Followed your advice and it works, off course (does the same as before).
But I don't have any idea what happens there so I've got to search for the manual . . .
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19 Sep 2015 10:45 - 19 Sep 2015 10:49 #37884
by vlad_vy
Replied by vlad_vy on topic Safety Issue with Devo 7e, 8S and 10
Example config for Mini CP with sticky throttle hold and safety warning for FMODE and RUD DR switch (Devo8).
name=Mini CP
mixermode=Advanced
icon=MINICP.BMP
[radio]
protocol=DEVO
num_channels=8
fixed_id=
tx_power=10mW
[protocol_opts]
Telemetry=On
[channel1]
template=complex
[mixer]
src=ELE
dest=Ch1
switch=FMODE0
scalar=70
curvetype=expo
points=5,5
[mixer]
src=ELE
dest=Ch1
switch=FMODE1
scalar=85
curvetype=expo
points=10,10
[mixer]
src=ELE
dest=Ch1
switch=FMODE2
curvetype=expo
points=15,15
[channel2]
template=complex
[mixer]
src=AIL
dest=Ch2
switch=FMODE0
scalar=75
curvetype=expo
points=5,5
[mixer]
src=AIL
dest=Ch2
switch=FMODE1
scalar=85
curvetype=expo
points=10,10
[mixer]
src=AIL
dest=Ch2
switch=FMODE2
curvetype=expo
points=15,15
[channel3]
template=complex
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch3
switch=FMODE0
usetrim=0
curvetype=3point
points=-100,20,100
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch3
switch=FMODE1
usetrim=0
curvetype=3point
points=100,60,100
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch3
switch=FMODE2
usetrim=0
curvetype=3point
points=100,60,100
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch3
switch=Virt1
scalar=-100
usetrim=0
curvetype=fixed
[channel4]
template=simple
[mixer]
src=RUD
dest=Ch4
[channel6]
template=complex
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch6
switch=FMODE0
scalar=60
usetrim=0
curvetype=3point
points=-17,35,90
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch6
switch=FMODE1
scalar=60
usetrim=0
curvetype=3point
points=-100,0,100
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch6
switch=FMODE2
scalar=60
usetrim=0
curvetype=3point
points=-100,0,100
[mixer]
src=ELE DR1
dest=Ch6
switch=Virt1
scalar=0
usetrim=0
curvetype=fixed
[channel7]
template=complex
[mixer]
src=Ch7
dest=Ch7
switch=MIX0
scalar=79
usetrim=0
curvetype=fixed
[mixer]
src=Ch7
dest=Ch7
switch=MIX1
scalar=70
usetrim=0
curvetype=fixed
[mixer]
src=Ch7
dest=Ch7
switch=MIX2
scalar=50
usetrim=0
curvetype=fixed
[virtchan1]
template=complex
[mixer]
src=Virt1
dest=Virt1
usetrim=0
curvetype=min/max
points=0
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Virt1
switch=FMODE0
offset=-1
usetrim=0
muxtype=add
[mixer]
src=AIL
dest=Virt1
switch=RUD DR1
usetrim=0
curvetype=fixed
[trim1]
src=LEFT_V
pos=TRIMLV+
neg=TRIMLV-
[trim2]
src=RIGHT_V
pos=TRIMRV+
neg=TRIMRV-
[trim3]
src=LEFT_H
pos=TRIMLH+
neg=TRIMLH-
[trim4]
src=RIGHT_H
pos=TRIMRH+
neg=TRIMRH-
[timer1]
type=countdown
src=Ch3
time=270
[timer2]
src=Ch3
[timer3]
type=permanent
src=Ch3
val=5777277
[telemalarm1]
source=Volt2
above=1
value=33
[datalog]
switch=None
rate=1 sec
[safety]
Auto=min
RUD DR1=min
FMODE1=min
FMODE2=min
[gui-320x240]
V-trim=129,75,1
H-trim=4,220,3
V-trim=181,75,2
H-trim=191,220,4
Big-box=8,40,Timer1
Big-box=8,84,TelemV2
Big-box=8,128,TelemT1
Big-box=8,172,Timer3
Bargraph=200,150,Ch1
Bargraph=214,150,Ch2
Bargraph=228,150,Ch3
Bargraph=242,150,Ch4
Bargraph=256,150,Ch5
Bargraph=270,150,Ch6
Bargraph=284,150,Ch7
Bargraph=298,150,Ch8
Toggle=127,40,3,66,0,RUD DR
Toggle=162,40,1,64,128,FMODE
Toggle=144,77,5,68,0,ELE DR
Toggle=144,113,8,71,0,GEAR
Toggle=144,149,2,65,129,MIX
Toggle=144,185,4,67,0,AIL DR
Model=207,40
quickpage1=Telemetry monitor
name=Mini CP
mixermode=Advanced
icon=MINICP.BMP
[radio]
protocol=DEVO
num_channels=8
fixed_id=
tx_power=10mW
[protocol_opts]
Telemetry=On
[channel1]
template=complex
[mixer]
src=ELE
dest=Ch1
switch=FMODE0
scalar=70
curvetype=expo
points=5,5
[mixer]
src=ELE
dest=Ch1
switch=FMODE1
scalar=85
curvetype=expo
points=10,10
[mixer]
src=ELE
dest=Ch1
switch=FMODE2
curvetype=expo
points=15,15
[channel2]
template=complex
[mixer]
src=AIL
dest=Ch2
switch=FMODE0
scalar=75
curvetype=expo
points=5,5
[mixer]
src=AIL
dest=Ch2
switch=FMODE1
scalar=85
curvetype=expo
points=10,10
[mixer]
src=AIL
dest=Ch2
switch=FMODE2
curvetype=expo
points=15,15
[channel3]
template=complex
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch3
switch=FMODE0
usetrim=0
curvetype=3point
points=-100,20,100
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch3
switch=FMODE1
usetrim=0
curvetype=3point
points=100,60,100
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch3
switch=FMODE2
usetrim=0
curvetype=3point
points=100,60,100
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch3
switch=Virt1
scalar=-100
usetrim=0
curvetype=fixed
[channel4]
template=simple
[mixer]
src=RUD
dest=Ch4
[channel6]
template=complex
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch6
switch=FMODE0
scalar=60
usetrim=0
curvetype=3point
points=-17,35,90
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch6
switch=FMODE1
scalar=60
usetrim=0
curvetype=3point
points=-100,0,100
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch6
switch=FMODE2
scalar=60
usetrim=0
curvetype=3point
points=-100,0,100
[mixer]
src=ELE DR1
dest=Ch6
switch=Virt1
scalar=0
usetrim=0
curvetype=fixed
[channel7]
template=complex
[mixer]
src=Ch7
dest=Ch7
switch=MIX0
scalar=79
usetrim=0
curvetype=fixed
[mixer]
src=Ch7
dest=Ch7
switch=MIX1
scalar=70
usetrim=0
curvetype=fixed
[mixer]
src=Ch7
dest=Ch7
switch=MIX2
scalar=50
usetrim=0
curvetype=fixed
[virtchan1]
template=complex
[mixer]
src=Virt1
dest=Virt1
usetrim=0
curvetype=min/max
points=0
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Virt1
switch=FMODE0
offset=-1
usetrim=0
muxtype=add
[mixer]
src=AIL
dest=Virt1
switch=RUD DR1
usetrim=0
curvetype=fixed
[trim1]
src=LEFT_V
pos=TRIMLV+
neg=TRIMLV-
[trim2]
src=RIGHT_V
pos=TRIMRV+
neg=TRIMRV-
[trim3]
src=LEFT_H
pos=TRIMLH+
neg=TRIMLH-
[trim4]
src=RIGHT_H
pos=TRIMRH+
neg=TRIMRH-
[timer1]
type=countdown
src=Ch3
time=270
[timer2]
src=Ch3
[timer3]
type=permanent
src=Ch3
val=5777277
[telemalarm1]
source=Volt2
above=1
value=33
[datalog]
switch=None
rate=1 sec
[safety]
Auto=min
RUD DR1=min
FMODE1=min
FMODE2=min
[gui-320x240]
V-trim=129,75,1
H-trim=4,220,3
V-trim=181,75,2
H-trim=191,220,4
Big-box=8,40,Timer1
Big-box=8,84,TelemV2
Big-box=8,128,TelemT1
Big-box=8,172,Timer3
Bargraph=200,150,Ch1
Bargraph=214,150,Ch2
Bargraph=228,150,Ch3
Bargraph=242,150,Ch4
Bargraph=256,150,Ch5
Bargraph=270,150,Ch6
Bargraph=284,150,Ch7
Bargraph=298,150,Ch8
Toggle=127,40,3,66,0,RUD DR
Toggle=162,40,1,64,128,FMODE
Toggle=144,77,5,68,0,ELE DR
Toggle=144,113,8,71,0,GEAR
Toggle=144,149,2,65,129,MIX
Toggle=144,185,4,67,0,AIL DR
Model=207,40
quickpage1=Telemetry monitor
Last edit: 19 Sep 2015 10:49 by vlad_vy.
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19 Sep 2015 22:16 #37903
by Gerhard_H
Replied by Gerhard_H on topic Safety Issue with Devo 7e, 8S and 10
Wow . . . 
Thx for that "look inside" anyway !
I have a Devo8S too ( and a MiniCP also) so I can take a closer look how that stuff works.
Thx for that "look inside" anyway !
I have a Devo8S too ( and a MiniCP also) so I can take a closer look how that stuff works.
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