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09 Sep 2012 01:28 #1393
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i tried to upload the deviation fw and it wont upload and now when i try to turn off my tx the screen blinks...it erased the devo firmware but failed to upload the deviation...i tried to reinstall the devo fw but it it says unable to find data for the device...
what did i do wrong?
what did i do wrong?
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09 Sep 2012 01:35 #1395
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What do you mean by 'it won't upload'?
You installed the devo8 dfu as 'firmware' and the 'lib' dfu as 'library'?
When you say the screen keeps blinking can you describe more explicitly what you see?
does it flash about once per second? If so, that is the watchdog kicking in.
Does it actually powr down when you turn off the Switch (does the light turn off?)
Can you get back to the 'program' screen? if you can't see it, then unplug the battery, turn off the Tx, plug in the battery and hold the 'Ext' button while powering on. This will get you back to the program screen. At that point your PC should recognize the Tx.
You installed the devo8 dfu as 'firmware' and the 'lib' dfu as 'library'?
When you say the screen keeps blinking can you describe more explicitly what you see?
does it flash about once per second? If so, that is the watchdog kicking in.
Does it actually powr down when you turn off the Switch (does the light turn off?)
Can you get back to the 'program' screen? if you can't see it, then unplug the battery, turn off the Tx, plug in the battery and hold the 'Ext' button while powering on. This will get you back to the program screen. At that point your PC should recognize the Tx.
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09 Sep 2012 01:42 #1397
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the screen just flashes with the current picture it had...
i managed to get the devo firmware to reinstall but when i left DFU mode the screen looked all funky so i am trying to put the library back to see if it straightens it out...after several attempts i did get back to the upgrade screen...
after reinstalling the library i was using the screen still looks all funky i can see the model and timer ect...but the background is just a bunch of scribbles and pixals...
i managed to get the devo firmware to reinstall but when i left DFU mode the screen looked all funky so i am trying to put the library back to see if it straightens it out...after several attempts i did get back to the upgrade screen...
after reinstalling the library i was using the screen still looks all funky i can see the model and timer ect...but the background is just a bunch of scribbles and pixals...
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09 Sep 2012 01:45 #1398
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do i install the deviation library first then the firmware? or does it matter which is installed first?
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09 Sep 2012 01:50 #1399
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woohoo i got it!! i installed the library first then the firmware and it is now working...
thanks a bunch!! im sure i will have many other questions and i can't thank you guys enough for all your work and help..
thanks a bunch!! im sure i will have many other questions and i can't thank you guys enough for all your work and help..
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09 Sep 2012 01:53 #1400
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you need to clarify your issue further.
can you get the devo firmware and library fully working exactly as it was with the original firmware?
If you are having issues, this should be your 1st goal. There isn't anything about Deviation that should prevent this from happening.
Once you've done that, load the Deviation firmware (but don't load the deviation library) and reboot.
You should get a black screen with text about entering USB mode, and your PC should ask if you want to format the drive.
Say yes. don't change any parameters (the drive will be ~4MB)
Now download the 'windows' version of deviation, and extract it. copy the contents of the 'filesystem' directory (not the dir itself, just the stuff inside it) onto the 'removable disk' that you just formatted (i.e. the transmitter).
Possibly the deviation library is corrupt. If so, the steps above will get you a full install, as well as indicating that is the issue.
can you get the devo firmware and library fully working exactly as it was with the original firmware?
If you are having issues, this should be your 1st goal. There isn't anything about Deviation that should prevent this from happening.
Once you've done that, load the Deviation firmware (but don't load the deviation library) and reboot.
You should get a black screen with text about entering USB mode, and your PC should ask if you want to format the drive.
Say yes. don't change any parameters (the drive will be ~4MB)
Now download the 'windows' version of deviation, and extract it. copy the contents of the 'filesystem' directory (not the dir itself, just the stuff inside it) onto the 'removable disk' that you just formatted (i.e. the transmitter).
Possibly the deviation library is corrupt. If so, the steps above will get you a full install, as well as indicating that is the issue.
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09 Sep 2012 01:55 #1401
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Also...don't panic.
As I said above, there is really no way that the deviation firmware can harm your Tx such that you can't get back to the original state. when in doubt, pull the battery, power off, then start up in Programming mode.
As I said above, there is really no way that the deviation firmware can harm your Tx such that you can't get back to the original state. when in doubt, pull the battery, power off, then start up in Programming mode.
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09 Sep 2012 02:03 #1403
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if i had a fixed ID on a model in the devo firmware will i need to clear it before the Deviation will bind to it?
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09 Sep 2012 02:05 #1404
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if you know the code, you can enter it into Deviation and it will use it without the need to rebind.
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09 Sep 2012 02:13 #1405
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oops...i guess i should have wrote that down when i created it.Oh well i'll just clear it out and redo it..will the wk2801 rx's that wont use fixed ID with the 2801pro use fixed ID with the deviation fw?
thanks.
thanks.
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09 Sep 2012 02:17 #1406
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I didn't know there was such a thing. Probably not though. Deviation should be able to do the same thing that a WK2801 or WK2801Pro does, but probably not more.magic_marty wrote: oops...i guess i should have wrote that down when i created it.Oh well i'll just clear it out and redo it..will the wk2801 rx's that wont use fixed ID with the 2801pro use fixed ID with the deviation fw?
thanks.
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09 Sep 2012 02:22 #1407
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Also, have you been fully successful now?
If there is something wrong with the deviation-lib.dfu, I need to know about it so I can fix it.
If there is something wrong with the deviation-lib.dfu, I need to know about it so I can fix it.
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09 Sep 2012 02:28 #1408
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it seems to be working nicely, i havent tried to bind it with anything yet but i will shortly...i been going through the menu ect and looking it over and all looks great!
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09 Sep 2012 02:49 #1409
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i can't seem to figure out how to set the switches..i want to use the mix switch as the gyro sensitivity but haven't figured out to do it..also if i set the stick mode to 3 does it automatically reassign the channels? i don't want to bind it to a heli and have it go to half throttle all of a sudden..
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09 Sep 2012 02:55 #1410
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yes if you change the mode, it will change the input mapping. you should not change modes while the heli is powered on.
I recommend making use of the channel-display to see how your sticks and switches will affect the output.
I am not sure what the signal to the gyro should look like.
But generally the way you would set up a switch is:
a) setup a dr/expo mixer.
b) select mix0 as src
c) select mix1 as sw1
d) select mix2 as sw2
set the scalar on mix0 to -100
sect th scalar on mix1 to 0
st the scalar on mix2 to 100
now you should have -100% with mix=0, 0 with mix=1, 100% with mix=2
I recommend making use of the channel-display to see how your sticks and switches will affect the output.
I am not sure what the signal to the gyro should look like.
But generally the way you would set up a switch is:
a) setup a dr/expo mixer.
b) select mix0 as src
c) select mix1 as sw1
d) select mix2 as sw2
set the scalar on mix0 to -100
sect th scalar on mix1 to 0
st the scalar on mix2 to 100
now you should have -100% with mix=0, 0 with mix=1, 100% with mix=2
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09 Sep 2012 06:38 - 09 Sep 2012 09:08 #1411
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had no problems getting it to bind to my 2801 heli's but i can't for the life of me figure out how to get it set up correctly..i followed the manual for setting up a heli and no luck getting the collective pitch to work correctly ..the channel moniture screen shows the correct outputs but the servos are not moving like they should...it shows 3 out puts on the screen but only 2 servos move when i move the throttle stick...if i select none on swash type i get the rite movements for aileron and elevator but unless i select 120 for the swash i got no collective pitch at all..
update: i managed to get the cyclic working pretty close but still need to do some tweaking...i had to set ele to cyclic 2 and ail to cyclic 1 ...
now for the big question does anybody know how to setup the gyro sensitivity ?
its usually set to the mix switch giving 3 different gyro settings but i can't figure how to get it to work as of know i have no tail gyro avtivity at all when i move the tail back n forth which means the gyro is not working ...
thanks all..
update: i managed to get the cyclic working pretty close but still need to do some tweaking...i had to set ele to cyclic 2 and ail to cyclic 1 ...
now for the big question does anybody know how to setup the gyro sensitivity ?
its usually set to the mix switch giving 3 different gyro settings but i can't figure how to get it to work as of know i have no tail gyro avtivity at all when i move the tail back n forth which means the gyro is not working ...
thanks all..
Last edit: 09 Sep 2012 09:08 by magic_marty.
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09 Sep 2012 13:53 - 09 Sep 2012 13:54 #1413
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I would try putting building the gyro mix into a virtual channel and then assigning it to all the open channels (probably 5, 7, and 8 ). As I don't own a 2801, I have no way to test what channels map where.
I would appreciate it if you share your model.ini file in the 'Model Configs' section so others can make use of it.
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Likely we need to find out what channel the gyro data is sent on.magic_marty wrote: now for the big question does anybody know how to setup the gyro sensitivity ?
its usually set to the mix switch giving 3 different gyro settings but i can't figure how to get it to work as of know i have no tail gyro avtivity at all when i move the tail back n forth which means the gyro is not working ...
I would try putting building the gyro mix into a virtual channel and then assigning it to all the open channels (probably 5, 7, and 8 ). As I don't own a 2801, I have no way to test what channels map where.
I would appreciate it if you share your model.ini file in the 'Model Configs' section so others can make use of it.
Last edit: 09 Sep 2012 13:54 by PhracturedBlue.
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09 Sep 2012 14:31 #1415
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In the DEVO 8 the gyro is ch 7, and I guess it is the ch 5 on the DEVO 6.
No idea about the 2801...
No idea about the 2801...
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09 Sep 2012 16:55 #1420
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thanks, i will try your suggestion on using a virtual channel and see if i can find out which channel the gyro uses..soon as i get it working i will share the file ..
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