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23 Sep 2012 20:43 #1765 by leloup
Hi,

I try desperately to run my 4G6S with my hacked devo 8s. In 2601 protocol, if i try 120 ° swashplate, nothing is normal. Rudder is good but that's all ! Throttle is mixed by throttle stick and left position of ail. stick !

Anyone tried this protocol ?

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23 Sep 2012 23:24 #1766 by magic_marty
Replied by magic_marty on topic Are you sure about walkera 2601 protocol ?
i just use the 2801 protocal on my 6ch rx's and it works fine..check to see if you have the stick mode set to how you fly..also on the swash page you can reverse the ele/ail channels i had to reverse the ele on my hm1a when i set it up...

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24 Sep 2012 05:42 #1769 by leloup
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The rx2610v don t accept 2801 protocol. I have tried all solutions...

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24 Sep 2012 07:21 #1770 by vlad_vy
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Setup for the Walkera 4G6V Helicopter - RX2610V2 Receiver with 3-Axis Gyro
helifreak.com/showpost.php?p=3796656&postcount=7

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24 Sep 2012 08:30 - 24 Sep 2012 08:33 #1772 by leloup
Replied by leloup on topic Are you sure about walkera 2601 protocol ?
Thanx, but the 2610s is in 3 servo mode not like the 2610V (1 servo because the mix is doing by the rx).
Normally, the 6ch heli template is good for the 4G6S but don't work...
Last edit: 24 Sep 2012 08:33 by leloup.

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24 Sep 2012 16:17 #1774 by magic_marty
Replied by magic_marty on topic Are you sure about walkera 2601 protocol ?
did you try setting the swash to "none" ? usually it works on 3axis rx's ..

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24 Sep 2012 19:09 #1776 by leloup
Replied by leloup on topic Are you sure about walkera 2601 protocol ?
Yes, i have try all swash config, the servo reaction is totally aberrant...

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24 Sep 2012 19:30 #1783 by FDR
Please describe the problem a bit more!

First you should make sure there is no CCPM in the rx, so use a simple 4ch template (or the default state) to see if you move one channel (for example the elevator), the two other servos don't move. (If they do, you don't need the CCPM in the tx, so use my 6ch heli template posted here instead...)

If they don't move, than load the 6ch CCPM heli template, set the swash type to the appropriate one (can you check what swash type did you use in your 2602/2801?).
Now see which servo does what, when you move the elevator?
Which is doing good, which is not?
Or try the pitch: all of them should move in one direction. If not, some should be reversed.

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24 Sep 2012 19:58 #1785 by leloup
Replied by leloup on topic Are you sure about walkera 2601 protocol ?
In the 2801, i'm in 3 servo 120° swash type so :

With a 6ch simple config i have this :

Ele -> Ele only
Ail -> Ail only
Thr -> Thr + Negative pitch servo
Rud -> Rud only
Gear -> nothing
Ch6 -> Thr + Positive pitch servo

When i say that's not normal...

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24 Sep 2012 20:14 #1786 by FDR
I cannot try it on a real heli, because I have only a FBL one, which needs 1 servo (normal) swash type, but I've just tried in the emulator, and with the 6ch heli template and 120° swash both 2601 and 2801 protocols behaved as expected...

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24 Sep 2012 20:27 #1787 by leloup
Replied by leloup on topic Are you sure about walkera 2601 protocol ?
That's why i'm looking another 2601 protocol user...
I think 2601 protocol is not a normal 1ch to 1ch protocol.

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28 Sep 2012 23:28 #1860 by flyguy
Replied by flyguy on topic Are you sure about walkera 2601 protocol ?
Hi,

i just received my Devo 8S today. I bought it, because i read it can be modified. so here i am :)

i also have a 4g6s with a rx2610s-1 receiver and i think i got it running, but i have a problem with one of the servos, it does not move correctly, but i'm not sure, if it's a hardware problem or not.

so, i will attach my current config, it should also work for you. i couldn't really test it, but the servos move correctly. maybe there is reverse needed on the rudder.

please tell me, if it works for you, especially if the right servo behaves somehow strange.

File Attachment:

File Name: model2.ini
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29 Sep 2012 11:39 #1866 by leloup
Replied by leloup on topic Are you sure about walkera 2601 protocol ?
hi

i have tested your model config. I have a problem on the pitch servo, when the throttle stick is near the middle position, the pitch servo is doing a small jump.
And i have no throttle on this config, i think it's about the safety value.

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29 Sep 2012 18:27 - 29 Sep 2012 18:28 #1871 by flyguy
Replied by flyguy on topic Are you sure about walkera 2601 protocol ?
Hi,

that "servo jump" is my problem as well. so it could be some protocol problem. i also tried with a different servo and have exactly the same issues.

i also can confirm your "no throttle" problem. i didn't test the throttle yesterday, but it seemed fine (checked via channel monitor).

i tested some more right now and it seems that something is messed up with the channel mapping. cyclic 3 should be on channel 6 (according to my wk2801pro) and throttle on channel 3, but it looks like both are mapped to channel 3 somehow, nothing happens when binding some control to channel 6, but on channel 3 both, throttle and the servo, are responding.

can anyone confirm this?
Last edit: 29 Sep 2012 18:28 by flyguy.

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29 Sep 2012 18:43 #1872 by FDR
Yep, ch6 should be the cyclic3, the ch3 should be simply the throttle.

The 6ch heli template should do that. You only have to set the protocol and the reverses properly, and a gyro channel, if there is one, like you have on ch5...
However I don't know what is the difference between setting the reverse on the channel page or in the heli swash settings...

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29 Sep 2012 18:55 #1873 by flyguy
Replied by flyguy on topic Are you sure about walkera 2601 protocol ?
Hi,

i started with the 6ch heli template, but it did not work as expected, so made a new one, to figure out what's wrong.

The problem is, that both, channel 3 and 6 on the receiver side react on channel 3 from the tx and absolutely nothing happens on channel 6. this only applies for the 2601 mode. i'm pretty sure now that's some bug.

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29 Sep 2012 19:04 #1874 by flyguy
Replied by flyguy on topic Are you sure about walkera 2601 protocol ?
i tested again with a new clean model and only assigned an input to channel 3. no more assignments or mixers. even with this minimal config, both, servo and throttle are reacting.

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29 Sep 2012 19:04 #1875 by FDR
Well, it must be a bug then, because in the tx and emulator everything seems fine...

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29 Sep 2012 19:17 - 29 Sep 2012 20:05 #1878 by flyguy
Replied by flyguy on topic Are you sure about walkera 2601 protocol ?
in 2k2x01.c, build_data_pkt_2601() looks kind of different, compared to 2401 and 2801. Is there some documentation about thatprotocols somewhere?


edit:

am i getting it right? is packet[6] just channel 6 as in 2801 mode? if so, it's always zero and so is channel 5.
Last edit: 29 Sep 2012 20:05 by flyguy.

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08 Oct 2012 04:00 #2039 by vlad_vy
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Any news with 2601 protocol? Walkera 4G3 (RX2605A) has problems also.

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