[HELP]Devo 8s Don't work with WK2401 protocol

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09 Nov 2020 00:31 #76979 by CAPETA
Hi, I recently purchased a brand new Devo 8s and installed deviation 5.0.0 because I have old Wakera helicopters and I wanted to use them all with just one control. I performed the bind procedure on all of them(2403,2603 and 2801 RXs) and it seemed to work well. However with the RX2403 the throtle does not control the tail motor and it is not working. I checked on other walkera radios that I have (WK-2801 PRO and WK-2402) and the tail motor worked normally without any issue.

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09 Nov 2020 06:38 #76980 by vlad_vy
Replied by vlad_vy on topic [HELP]Devo 8s Don't work with WK2401 protocol
These Walkera protocols and receivers are very specific. Try to use different protocol options. To use protocol options press ENT on protocol name.

www.deviationtx.com/manuals/html-devo8-e...html#protocol-wk2801

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09 Nov 2020 10:03 #76981 by -=Hubi-Dirk=-
Replied by -=Hubi-Dirk=- on topic [HELP]Devo 8s Don't work with WK2401 protocol
Hi,
first I had a Devo 8s and flew all my Walkers helicopters with it until I switched to a 12s some time ago. Both TXs are and were with Deviation 5.0 (different Nightlys).
I fly the Walkera helicopters 4#3B (protocol WK2401), 4G3 (WK2601) and 4G6 (WK2801) without any problems.
Which Walkera helicopter model do you use?

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09 Nov 2020 15:06 #76982 by CAPETA
Hello,I have the Creata 400(2801), #4G3(2603) and the CB-180D ((2403) this one is my problem))

When i set Full Throtle quicly, the tail motor starts to work, but a few secs later it stops and only the main motor still working, however when i gradually pull the throtle up, the tail motor don't spin even a bit. When a change from Advanced Mix Gui to Standard Mix Gui, the tail motor starts to work full-throtle even with the throtle stick at 0% until the bind process ends, after that the same problem starts again.

PS: When i turn my 8s on with Standard mix set, the tail motor starts to works at full throtle too

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09 Nov 2020 16:03 - 09 Nov 2020 16:03 #76983 by -=Hubi-Dirk=-
Replied by -=Hubi-Dirk=- on topic [HELP]Devo 8s Don't work with WK2401 protocol
Ok, the 4G3 is a good start. :)

I programmed the 4G3 with the RX2605 using the WK2801 protocol. This is possible and works well for me.

The model.ini and the bmp-file for the 4G3 is attached, try them out. For safety reasons please remove the main rotor blades :)
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Last edit: 09 Nov 2020 16:03 by -=Hubi-Dirk=-.

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09 Nov 2020 20:36 #76985 by CAPETA
Thanks, but my #4G3 works well... Can you share your 4#3B(2401) config? Thanks for all support :)

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09 Nov 2020 21:18 #76986 by CAPETA
I just recorded these two short videos that show my problem:





PS: if you asking about the second one, nothing broke. Everything is fine :side:

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10 Nov 2020 10:44 #76987 by -=Hubi-Dirk=-
Replied by -=Hubi-Dirk=- on topic [HELP]Devo 8s Don't work with WK2401 protocol
Hi,

to the videos: Delete the Fixed ID and try it without, the ID is not necessary

Attached my config for 4#3B, protocol WK2401.

There is a model.ini for the CB180 here in the forum. Try this one too:
deviationtx.com/forum/model-configs/2105...2-config-files#13635
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10 Nov 2020 13:30 #76988 by CAPETA
Hello, i tried both models and nothing work as expected :( ... But what if I try to change the throtle mix and make it complex with 2 mixers as shown in the images below? What gonna happen?
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10 Nov 2020 13:43 #76989 by -=Hubi-Dirk=-
Replied by -=Hubi-Dirk=- on topic [HELP]Devo 8s Don't work with WK2401 protocol
I do not understand the sense of the complex mixer. With the switch Rudd_DR the same signal is sent from the same source to the same TX channel. What should happen by switching Rudd_DR?

Another hint: In the first video I saw that the trim for the gas channel is in the middle. Please adjust the trim to the bottom and the scale for the Thr back to 100%. Then try if the rear engine starts and stays running.

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13 Nov 2020 06:05 #76990 by Birdman
Replied by Birdman on topic [HELP]Devo 8s Don't work with WK2401 protocol
I have many Walkera heli and fly them with 8s so will look into this. First thoughts are I don't think making an advanced mix for throttle like you say will work as most if not all mixing is done in receiver.

Have a read of this thread.
www.deviationtx.com/forum/model-configs/...cb180q2-config-files

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13 Nov 2020 06:20 #76991 by Birdman
Replied by Birdman on topic [HELP]Devo 8s Don't work with WK2401 protocol
The CB180 uses a very basic 4 channel WK2401, so that will be how you need to setup the 8s. A basic ELE AIL THR RUD channel setup. Aside from that it may just need something simple like RUD channel reversed.

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13 Nov 2020 06:28 #76992 by Birdman
Replied by Birdman on topic [HELP]Devo 8s Don't work with WK2401 protocol
The ini. in link does show a very basic setup with at first glance looks like THR cut on DR1 and THR trim down.

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13 Nov 2020 06:31 #76993 by Birdman
Replied by Birdman on topic [HELP]Devo 8s Don't work with WK2401 protocol
name=Bell 222 CB180Q
mixermode=Advanced
icon=CB180Q1.BMP
[radio]
protocol=WK2401
num_channels=4
fixed_id=123456
tx_power=10mW

[channel1]
reverse=1
template=simple
[mixer]
src=ELE
dest=Ch1
curvetype=expo
points=-40,-40

[channel2]
reverse=1
template=simple
[mixer]
src=AIL
dest=Ch2
curvetype=expo
points=-40,-40

[channel3]
template=complex
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch3
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch3
switch=RUD DR1
scalar=-100
usetrim=0
curvetype=fixed

[channel4]
template=simple
[mixer]
src=RUD
dest=Ch4

[trim1]
src=LEFT_V
pos=TRIMLV+
neg=TRIMLV-
value=-73
[trim2]
src=RIGHT_V
pos=TRIMRV+
neg=TRIMRV-
[trim3]
src=LEFT_H
pos=TRIMLH+
neg=TRIMLH-
[trim4]
src=RIGHT_H
pos=TRIMRH+
neg=TRIMRH-
[timer1]
type=countdown
src=THR
resetsrc=GEAR1
time=480
[timer2]
src=THR
resetsrc=GEAR1
[safety]
Auto=min
[gui-qvga]
trim=4in
barsize=half
box1=Timer1
box2=Timer2
box7=Ch3
box8=Ch4
bar1=Ch1
bar2=Ch2
bar3=Ch3
bar4=Ch4
toggle1=RUD DR
tglico1=0,2,0
toggle2=GEAR
tglico2=0,5,0
toggle3=MIX
tglico3=4,0,6
toggle4=FMODE
tglico4=0,3,1
quickpage1=Model setup

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13 Nov 2020 06:36 #76994 by Birdman
Replied by Birdman on topic [HELP]Devo 8s Don't work with WK2401 protocol
I have 2 heli using WK2401 protocol on my 8s and both use very basic ELE AIL THR RUD 4 channel setups.

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13 Nov 2020 06:52 #76995 by CAPETA
Hi, I tried everything previously said and nothing has changed, I used the settings posted in this topic and in the topic referred by you and my problem still the same: my tail motor dont work using my devo 8s. i'll send a video showing my default settings...

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13 Nov 2020 07:13 #76996 by Birdman
Replied by Birdman on topic [HELP]Devo 8s Don't work with WK2401 protocol
I found reference that says the 180D will fly with 2401 transmitter.

Maybe try a smaller and larger scale on RUD channel. 80 or 90 and 110 or 120.

I would think that if it binds and everything else works so should tail motor with right settings.

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13 Nov 2020 07:59 #76997 by Birdman
Replied by Birdman on topic [HELP]Devo 8s Don't work with WK2401 protocol
Just noticed the scale of your thr ch in your pics is 125, why?

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13 Nov 2020 08:53 #76998 by CAPETA
Default settings downloaded from .ini of 180 q2 model

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13 Nov 2020 09:01 - 13 Nov 2020 09:06 #77000 by Birdman
Replied by Birdman on topic [HELP]Devo 8s Don't work with WK2401 protocol
Not from the link I posted, can't possibly be.???

edit: Should probably be 100, as should all channels.
Last edit: 13 Nov 2020 09:06 by Birdman.

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