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07 Dec 2012 02:21 #3723 by dawsonmobley
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I bought this little nine eagles p51 ultra micro just to see if I would enjoy flying planes as much as helis and was wondering if I can control it with my devo8s with deviation on it? What little info I've found about deviation and nine eagles stuff has just left me confused. Will it just bind or do I have to do anything to make it work, or is it incompatible?

thanks!

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07 Dec 2012 04:25 #3728 by PhracturedBlue
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I can't tell if it will work or not.
I have a Nine Eagles Sky 500:
www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__1932...m_Bind_and_Fly_.html
which binds fine with Deviation.
The Tx looks similar to yours, but that doesn't mean too much.

I think the instructions are:
power tx, set to J6pro, power model, press 'bind'
you may then need to turn off both tx and model.
Let us know how it goes

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07 Dec 2012 04:58 - 07 Dec 2012 04:59 #3730 by dawsonmobley
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SWEET! I did what you said and it did bind and everything seems good except for the fact that the ele/ail stick is wrong...the ail moves when I move the stick up and down and the ele moves when I move the stick side to side? Any idea how to fix that? Can it be changed in the tx or maybe by switching the servo wires in the plane itself?
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07 Dec 2012 05:10 #3731 by PhracturedBlue
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dawsonmobley wrote: SWEET! I did what you said and it did bind and everything seems good except for the fact that the ele/ail stick is wrong...the ail moves when I move the stick up and down and the ele moves when I move the stick side to side? Any idea how to fix that? Can it be changed in the tx or maybe by switching the servo wires in the plane itself?

In deviation you can reassign the channels, but the easiest thing to do is to just do File: Template... -> Simple 4Ch
which should reassign the channels properly.

Otherwise, just change the source for the Ail and Ele on the mixer page

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07 Dec 2012 05:33 #3733 by dawsonmobley
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PhracturedBlue wrote:

dawsonmobley wrote: SWEET! I did what you said and it did bind and everything seems good except for the fact that the ele/ail stick is wrong...the ail moves when I move the stick up and down and the ele moves when I move the stick side to side? Any idea how to fix that? Can it be changed in the tx or maybe by switching the servo wires in the plane itself?

In deviation you can reassign the channels, but the easiest thing to do is to just do File: Template... -> Simple 4Ch
which should reassign the channels properly.

Otherwise, just change the source for the Ail and Ele on the mixer page


Thanks...that seems to have done the trick:).

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19 Nov 2014 22:02 #26466 by Schugy
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I wonder what is wrong. I can't bind my YAK-54 3G FTR RTB NE2005RTB to my Devo 8S with 4.0.1 firmware. Any hints?

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21 Nov 2014 22:29 #26495 by mwm
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NE ships or has shippedmodels with at least three different protocols:

1) J6Pro: this is supported by Deviation with the CYRF module.

2) SLT (newer models): this is supported by deviation using the NRF24L01 module.

3) An unnamed protocol: used on 4-channel helicopter models. Not supported by deviation.

I would have expected the P-51 to use #3, not J6Pro.

For your Yak, you might give the SLT protocol a try. Otherwise, is it available as an RTF, and if so with what Tx?

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22 Nov 2014 10:40 #26514 by Schugy
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Thank you for your help. Maybe I got it wrong. I believed that CYRF is what is builtin in my Devo 8S anyway. I tried my Tactic Anylink2 TACJ2005 without success. Anylink2 works great with my GreatPlanes F-86 Sabre. The YAK-54 manual mentions all the S-FHSS Futaba radios. I could also buy a GeneralLink that is pictured on the box. I'm very bad at soldering. Sometimes I solder motor cables far away from other electronics but that's all I dare to do.

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22 Nov 2014 12:51 #26516 by SeByDocKy
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Schugy wrote: Thank you for your help. Maybe I got it wrong. I believed that CYRF is what is builtin in my Devo 8S anyway. I tried my Tactic Anylink2 TACJ2005 without success. Anylink2 works great with my GreatPlanes F-86 Sabre. The YAK-54 manual mentions all the S-FHSS Futaba radios. I could also buy a GeneralLink that is pictured on the box. I'm very bad at soldering. Sometimes I solder motor cables far away from other electronics but that's all I dare to do.


I was able to bind the NE Yak54 with the J6pro protocol

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22 Nov 2014 13:34 #26517 by Schugy
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Does it need an extra module in the tx?
Can you attach your model.ini to this thread? I've tried a lot of channel mappings and reversals with the J6Pro protocol without luck.

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22 Nov 2014 15:10 #26518 by mwm
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You're right - the CYRF module is what is built in. Sorry about the confusion.

If they mention or advertise it as using GeneralLink, then I believe that's the only way you'll get it to work - but I'm not positive. NE doesn't say whether or not either of the two protocols I mentioned are GeneralLink, but I'm pretty sure it's not AnyLink. The J6Pro "name" for the NE protocol in deviation comes from the J6Pro transmitter that is sold with by NE, as the protocol used by is what was implemented.

I know that NE has sold two versions of some of their aircraft, one an RTF one with a J6Pro Tx, and those can be bound with a deviated tx with no extra hardware. The other was a "transmitter-ready" version that used or needed a GeneralLink module. If those two are different, that would explain why SebyDocky could bind his NE Yak54 with the J6Pro protocol and you can't bind yours if you have the GeneralLink version.

I bought the RTF Solo Pro V126, just to be sure. Anyone want to buy a J6Pro Tx?

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22 Nov 2014 15:16 #26519 by mwm
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Oh, and in case I've confused you: "SLT" is the name of the protocol used by AnyLink. It's a Great Planes protocol, but as noted NE has switched to it for "transmitter-ready" versions of their more recent aircraft, like the Solo Pro 319.

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23 Nov 2014 18:14 - 23 Nov 2014 18:15 #26538 by Schugy
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HereĀ“s the manual .
The RTF set comes with a JF4 transmitter.

Both versions are equipped with the S-FHSS transmission system,
The only differences are the models' set contents (with or
without RC system transmitter and AA cells). Please refer to
pages 8 and 9 for more details.

Are JF4 und J6Pro transmitters incompatible?
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23 Nov 2014 19:40 #26541 by mwm
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Schugy wrote: Are JF4 und J6Pro transmitters incompatible?


The deviation documentation says "Many older 4-channel Nine Eagles models used a different protocol that is unsupported", so I'd say yes.

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24 Nov 2014 23:12 - 26 Nov 2014 00:04 #26563 by Schugy
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My Yak responded immediately to my new General Link module.
I hope this helps you to avoid my error.

EDIT:
Nine Eagles offers at least 3 different General Link modules:
NE480133 DSSS to replace J4, J5 and J6 transmitters (not necessary with DeviationTX)
NE480193 S-FHSS for models with Futaba Code receivers.
NE480192 for SLT.

The NE480114 module seems to be outdated.
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