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23 Mar 2015 21:45 - 23 Mar 2015 23:27 #30137 by Tryptych
Newbie questions about model ini files was created by Tryptych
Hey guys. I just modded my Devo7e this weekend and have begun studying the various model.ini files I have for my various quads. I have mwm's "WritingaDeviationTxmodel.pdf" which I have been studying as well.

But I have some very very basic questions from a beginner, if someone patient doesn't mind:

(1) Is it possible so that when I apply rudder Deviation automatically adds a bit of aileron to assist with bank turns? Or: if apply elevator, it applies a bit of thrust, etc etc. Can Deviation do this? How exactly? Is there a model ini example I could see?

(2) Below is a cut and paste from my Nano QX ini. Can anyone tell me what it's doing? From what I understand it is sending the value of the HOLD1 switch to "Virt1". But what is Virt1 and why is this entry in my model.ini?
[virtchan1]
template=simple
[mixer]
src=HOLD1
dest=Virt1
curvetype=min/max
points=0
[/b]

(3) See below. Does my Nano QX or Hubsan X4 really use telemetry? What is it sending back to the transmitter?
[protocol_opts]
Telemetry=On

(4) See below, from my Proto X ini. It's the only one of my quads that uses this fixed ID, why? How do these fixed IDs work? How do I know if I need one, and what it should be set at?
fixed_id=635713

(5) See below, from my Proto X ini. Can anyone explain what this is doing with Virt3 Virt6, Virt7, etc?
[mixer]
src=!Virt3
dest=Ch2
switch=Virt7
usetrim=0
[mixer]
src=Virt3
dest=Ch2
switch=Virt6
usetrim=0

(6) Is this really necessary? What is the default setting if I omit it?
tx_power=150mW
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23 Mar 2015 22:26 - 23 Mar 2015 22:28 #30142 by Jasenk
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I think I can answer number 6, you have to set what tx power you want for eack model. If you have an indoor model then 10mW may be ok and will save battery time on the transmitter. If you're flying a quad drone and do "out of sight" flying you want the most tx power which is 150mW. I was thinking the DEVO firmware did 100mW at the highest. I think Deviation gets you 150mW as another benifit but I'm not sure about that.

-Jasen
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23 Mar 2015 22:52 - 23 Mar 2015 23:24 #30144 by Tryptych
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Thanks Jasenk
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23 Mar 2015 23:30 #30148 by Jasenk
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#3 Not sure if the models you have have telemetry but you can turn that off even if your models are telemetry capable without any issues. Usually with telemetry you can get voltages, temperatures and GPS info from the model's reciver.

-Jasen

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23 Mar 2015 23:53 #30151 by Jasenk
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#2 Without the whole model setup INI, it's hard to say what Virt1 is for. But a common use is for a thing called Sticky-Throttle Hold. This is a safe mode for the throttle that makes sure even if you switch off throttle hold and the throttle is in a position other than full down it still won't run the motor up until after the throttle is put to full down. Nice feature. I haven't implemented it yet myself as I don't have a throttle hold or trainer switch on my Devo 10 so I would need to assign it to my Rudder Dual Rate Switch. I guess I don't need dual rate on rudder but since it is there that's what I have it set up for.

Here is a link to the Sticky-Throttle: www.deviationtx.com/forum/how-to/1953-ho...imitstart=0&start=20

Otherwise I'm still not sure if I could tell you what it's for in your example even If I had all the full INI.

-Jasen

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24 Mar 2015 00:03 #30152 by Jasenk
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#4 In this case you have an INI from someone who uses Fixed ID. This number will not work for you as it is specific to the RX that it was Bound to. You can use either Fixed ID, which insures you can't accidently use the wrong model INI setup to operate the actual model RX. Basically a fixed ID is a way of pairing a model INI to a RX and only that INI and RX work together. If you don't use fixed ID you can bind to your Model's RX regardless of which Model INI you have chosen, assuming the same protocol. Devo shouldn't bind with DMSX for example.

Hope that helps.

-Jasen

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24 Mar 2015 00:05 - 24 Mar 2015 00:06 #30153 by Jasenk
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#5 Will need the full INI for most to be able to figure out what going on there. Not that I know if I can or not.

Can you tell I'm bored tonight?

-Jasen
Last edit: 24 Mar 2015 00:06 by Jasenk. Reason: Reduce Posts, Ha Ha

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24 Mar 2015 12:39 #30178 by aMax
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Jasenk wrote: I think I can answer number 6, you have to set what tx power you want for eack model. If you have an indoor model then 10mW may be ok and will save battery time on the transmitter. If you're flying a quad drone and do "out of sight" flying you want the most tx power which is 150mW. I was thinking the DEVO firmware did 100mW at the highest. I think Deviation gets you 150mW as another benifit but I'm not sure about that.


It depends on the RF module.
The XL(A)7105-D03, the CC2500 (shielded,U-FL) have 17dBm output, the NRF24L01+ (pa&lna) has 20dBm output.
Therefore 60mW or 100mW are maximum.
The ones I know, that are capable to take or seem to take an advantage of Deviation are the Skyartec(advertised with 23dBm)and the CYRF-Devo module (dBm???) module.

Devo7e, TaranisQ X7, R9M , 4in1 MM, Futaba FC18plusV3.2 & DFT/FLD-02

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