Devo 10 PPM (without modding CC2500)

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02 Jul 2015 15:51 #34988 by liliass
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Dear all,

Is that possible to use PPM with my Devo 10 (white) without modding / hacking into my devo10 with CC2500 module ?

I am planning to use Naze32 CF with Oneshot125

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02 Jul 2015 16:24 #34990 by mwm
Replied by mwm on topic Devo 10 PPM (without modding CC2500)
There are a number of ways to use PPM with your 10. But getting PPM into a Naze32 flight controller is a feature of the receiver, not the transmitter. You can use any compatible Rx that has a PPM output option.

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02 Jul 2015 16:28 #34992 by liliass
Replied by liliass on topic Devo 10 PPM (without modding CC2500)
Can u recommand some RX's with PPM (without modding / hacking / adding CC2500 module)

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02 Jul 2015 17:17 #35000 by liliass
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mwm wrote: There are a number of ways to use PPM with your 10. But getting PPM into a Naze32 flight controller is a feature of the receiver, not the transmitter. You can use any compatible Rx that has a PPM output option.


I bought a Frsky D4R-II today. and i realized i need to buy CC2500 module to mod/hack too.
which I am struggle to do that.

I wish there is some PPM RX i can use without modding/hacking.
is there any ?

(sorry for my english. i'm asian.)

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02 Jul 2015 17:28 #35002 by Cereal_Killer
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I dont believe deviation makes a PPM receiver however if you are only looking to avoid physical mods (but are ok with flashing to DeviationFW) then it's easy. You can use any spektrum receiver that has PPM, again you'll have to flash DeviationTX FW (stock FW doesnt do it) but there's no soldering required!

I use Orange and Lemon DSMX receivers. You can also use ONLY a satellite receiver as well... This is a very common topic and there's plenty of good info on here and at RCGroups!

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02 Jul 2015 18:44 #35005 by liliass
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can u recommend me a RX. that same size / weight as D4R-II ?
I am using 250mm quad. i need a small RX's

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02 Jul 2015 19:06 #35007 by liliass
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I found out that hobby king is sell all kind of OrangerRX
Which one shall I get to get work with Naze32 Cleanflight + Oneshot125 ?

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02 Jul 2015 23:24 - 02 Jul 2015 23:43 #35012 by mwm
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If you were going to use a D4R-II, then the OrangeRx 410X if you don't need telemetry, otherwise the CPPM version of the 620X. Two things to note about the 620X: First, it comes in both SBUS and CPPM versions. Make sure you get one that works with your FC; the CPPM version matches the D4R-II functionality. Second, to get down to the D4R-II weight levels, you'll want to take the plastic case off - saving about 7 grams - and then use something like shrink wrap to protect the Rx.

Edit: Get the 415X, not the 410X. Orange eliminated some of the issues with the older 10 models in the older ones, and I overlooked the 415X when checking for CPPM earlier.

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03 Jul 2015 02:35 #35017 by liliass
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just curious is 4ch is sufficient for mini quad ?

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03 Jul 2015 05:43 #35027 by Thomas.Heiss
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digital signals usually output all channels, even on small RX which only have 4 servo ports.

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03 Jul 2015 05:48 #35028 by Thomas.Heiss
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Does Naze32 support "Spektrum SRXL"? There is a Spektrum AR9020 which supports "Spektrum SRXL".

Probably overkill for a small quad...not that small and cheap...

But may be an alternative to all that OrangeRX / LemonRX stuff...and you can use Spektrum FlightLog with TM...and because of Spektrum genuine RX would work 100% realiable.

Can't you use a normal RX like AR6210 + SAT to connect a FC?

If you go the OrangeRX, Lemon, Storm route you are on your own (different test results on new OrangeRX with telemetry...including done tests with HIGH framelosses.....Lemon with no real Spektrum flight log)....etc.

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03 Jul 2015 06:01 - 03 Jul 2015 06:03 #35030 by liliass
Replied by liliass on topic Devo 10 PPM (without modding CC2500)
would OrangeRx R615X is a better choice?

Actually i am quite confuse about rangeRx R615X DSM2/DSMX Compatible 6Ch 2.4GHz Receiver w/CPPM


Devo 10 -> RX using DSM2 / DSMX signal ?
While the RX Telemetry to the Naze32 is CPPM signal?

So does R615X work out of the box for Devo 10 ?

(please use simply english/and my english. i'm asian)
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03 Jul 2015 08:21 - 03 Jul 2015 08:25 #35039 by aMax
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PPM and CPPM means the same ,....single wire. The "C" is additional and stands for combined.
The other expression for the individual channel output, one per wire, is PWM.

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03 Jul 2015 21:14 #35062 by mwm
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Thomas.Heiss wrote: Does Naze32 support "Spektrum SRXL"? If you go the OrangeRX, Lemon, Storm route you are on your own


I take it you've never tried to get support from Horizon when using a deviated Tx. If you're using deviationTx, you're on your own. You won't get support from Horizon for that transmitter, and if the radio screws up they aren't going to replace any equipment you may have lost.

And if you read the deviation manual, you'll see that some Spektrum receivers don't work properly with deviaitonTx. We also have open issue with a number of other Spektrum Rx's.

Historically, deviation has been more thoroughly tested with licensed Tx's, but that's changing as the clones gain in popularity. Spektrum doesn't test with deviation, but I'd be surprised if either OrangeRx or LemonRx do either, though I'd love to hear differently.

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03 Jul 2015 21:32 #35063 by mwm
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liliass wrote: would OrangeRx R615X is a better choice?


Better than what? I'd take the 620X, as it has telemetry. Also has 6 channels, which might be handy. On the other hand, the 415X is smaller & lighter though a little more expensive, and like the 615X has 6 channels of CPPM.

Devo 10 -> RX using DSM2 / DSMX signal ?

Yes. This is what the "protocol" selection on the Devo 10 is.

While the RX Telemetry to the Naze32 is CPPM signal?

Telemetry is the signal from the Rx back to the Devo 10. It includes things like the flight pack voltage and the radio signal strength. The 620X gives you both of those.

The connection from the Rx to the Naze32 doesn't carry telemetry data, just the same data that's sent from the Devo 10 the the Rx. You have a number of choices here. The old standard is to use one connector per channel, using either servo (most of the ones mentioned here) or micro-servo (the 415X) connectors. CPPM combines all the channels on one servo connector, making the build easier. This also means that a "4-channel" Rx like the 415X can send 6 channels, or a "6-channel" Rx like the 620X can send 12..

So does R615X work out of the box for Devo 10 ?

If you have installed deviation, yes.

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04 Jul 2015 06:01 #35081 by Block137
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liliass wrote: Can u recommand some RX's with PPM (without modding / hacking / adding CC2500 module)


RX703A
RX705 etc
Actually every RX that Walkera put in their GPS-Multirotors.
However Those are very expensive and huge.
If you plan to get 3 or more of these, better risk adding CC2500.

No idea for DSM_ RXs

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10 Oct 2015 20:40 #38694 by fredskidoo
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I have a Devo 10 (white) running the latest Deviation release. I currently am using the Orangerx r616xn CPPM using the Devo 10's DSMX capabilities plugged into a CC3D Atom on the receiver port channels 1,2 and 8 with oneshot enabled. i have enabled the Devo's Fmode switch and am getting 3 flight modes as well.

I bought the Orangerx R616XN at Hobbyking for like $11. It weights next to nothing and is about the size of a dime. I haven't attempted any range tests as of yet.

Easy

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05 Jan 2016 16:40 #41405 by vincentko88
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fredskidoo wrote: I have a Devo 10 (white) running the latest Deviation release. I currently am using the Orangerx r616xn CPPM using the Devo 10's DSMX capabilities plugged into a CC3D Atom on the receiver port channels 1,2 and 8 with oneshot enabled. i have enabled the Devo's Fmode switch and am getting 3 flight modes as well.

I bought the Orangerx R616XN at Hobbyking for like $11. It weights next to nothing and is about the size of a dime. I haven't attempted any range tests as of yet.

Easy


Dear Mr Fredskidoo,
I am getting a devo 10 white + orangerx r616xn CPM + naze32+ cleanflight + QAV250 combo
Can you tell me which "exact" deviation nightly version did you install into your devo10 (white) tx? I am running DSMX CPPM.
Can you provide your module.ini file for your devo 10 setup. I have trouble programming the 3 position swtich setup for devo 10 (white)
Thanks
Vincent

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