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04 Jul 2015 02:16 #35071 by martinwh81
missing NRF24L01 after update to nightly was created by martinwh81
Hi,
I've been using devo 10 with deviation-devo10-v4.0.1-65084ff with A7105 and NRF24L01 without any problems. I can fly my WLtoys V977 without any problem. It means the connections of NRF24L01 should be correct.

However, after I update to latest nightly (deviation-devo10-v4.0.1-c3007aa), it prompts me missing module NRF24L01.

Is there any change in the wiring of NRF24L01 with the recent nightly? Or more thorough check?

Thanks guys. I really enjoy this deviation tx, I just cannot understand where my problem is

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04 Jul 2015 03:09 #35074 by hexfet
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The nightly builds check that data can be read from the nrf module. The first suspect would be the connection to the MISO line.

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04 Jul 2015 04:18 #35077 by Doug40
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This may have nothing to do with your problem, but it has a familiar ring.
I installed a NRF24L01 in a Devo 7e as the first module according to the instructions on the hackmods page. It worked fine with all I flew. Later, I installed an A7105 module and used the remaining pin. The A7105 was not recognized until I swapped the position of the two modules pins on the board, and in the hardware.ini file. I was using a Nightly Build, probably 06/08.
I am always paranoid about bridged connections, and I checked the board well before I fired up the A7105 and before I swapped the pins, so it had a strong appearance of a SW conflict.

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04 Jul 2015 09:19 #35085 by martinwh81
Replied by martinwh81 on topic missing NRF24L01 after update to nightly
Does it mean the previous build doesn't need the data from MISO? but it works with previous build. I think i use the build from feb 2015. So i need to check my soldering to MISO right?

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04 Jul 2015 09:22 #35086 by martinwh81
Replied by martinwh81 on topic missing NRF24L01 after update to nightly
You meant you swap the tck and tms of the two modules? Currently i use the A13 as nrf24l01 and A14 for A7105.should i try to swap the soldering and the hardware.ini?

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04 Jul 2015 14:30 #35098 by hexfet
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martinwh81 wrote: Does it mean the previous build doesn't need the data from MISO? but it works with previous build. I think i use the build from feb 2015. So i need to check my soldering to MISO right?

The 4.0.1 version does not check at power-up if data can be read from the nrf, and I think only the yd717 protocol requires reading from the module. Yes, check your connection to MISO.

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04 Jul 2015 15:19 #35102 by martinwh81
Replied by martinwh81 on topic missing NRF24L01 after update to nightly
You are really spot on. I just opened up my devo to check the connection to MISO, the solder has broken off. After i solder back, now it's working nicely with the new nightly. Thanks a lot hexfet. Problem solved :P

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martinwh81 wrote: Does it mean the previous build doesn't need the data from MISO? but it works with previous build. I think i use the build from feb 2015. So i need to check my soldering to MISO right?

The 4.0.1 version does not check at power-up if data can be read from the nrf, and I think only the yd717 protocol requires reading from the module. Yes, check your connection to MISO.

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04 Jul 2015 16:22 #35106 by Doug40
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martinwh81 wrote: You meant you swap the tck and tms of the two modules? Currently i use the A13 as nrf24l01 and A14 for A7105.should i try to swap the soldering and the hardware.ini?


Your configuration is what had before I swapped the TCK/TMS and changed the .INI. It is possible that there is no sensitivity, and there was an unnoticed error in my .INI file, which I inadvertently corrected when I changed the .INI file, after swapping the pins. I don't believe there was a problem with the wiring on the board.

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