Devo 7E not powering up after nrf24l01 install

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14 Nov 2016 18:33 - 21 Nov 2016 21:47 #55929 by manc
Hi,
I wonder someone could assist me with an issue I am experiencing with my Devo 7E.

After the installation of a nrf24l01 module my Devo 7E does not power up (no beeps, no nothing), if I unplug the nrf24l01 module the Devo 7E powers up properly.
I have measured with my multimeter that 3.3v is present on the CE & VCC cables, and checked continuity on each cable.
Attached to this post is a photo of my soldering points on the Devo 7E (excuse the soldering, im not the best when it comes to soldering), I have soldered the nrf24l01 as per hackmods guide ( www.hacksmods.com/2013/05/nrf24l01-devo7e-pinout/ ).

My nrf24l01 module is:-
[img ]https://arduino-info.wikispaces.com/file/view/nRF24L01-PA-LNA-ANT.jpg/572816939/375x504/nRF24L01-PA-LNA-ANT.jpg [attachment=7642]devo7e-mod.jpg[/attachment] [attachment=7642]devo7e-mod.jpg[/attachment]

Does anyone have any thoughts on where I am going wrong?

Thanks.

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14 Nov 2016 21:49 #55934 by ketsa
Replied by ketsa on topic Devo 7E not powering up after nrf24l01
Post a picture of the other side, connections to the nrf module.

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15 Nov 2016 11:52 - 15 Nov 2016 11:53 #55948 by manc
Replied by manc on topic Devo 7E not powering up after nrf24l01
Thanks for helping ketsa, I shall post a photo of the wired nrf24l01 this evening.

Below is a photo of the nrf24l01 module I am using, it is different to the usual one other people use, it may help.

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15 Nov 2016 20:53 #55949 by manc
Replied by manc on topic Devo 7E not powering up after nrf24l01
Hi,
Below are a few photos of the nrf24l01 wired up, hope someone can spot what I am doing wrong, it is extremely frustrating currently.
Thanks.

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15 Nov 2016 23:32 #55951 by RoGuE_StreaK
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Wiring seems to look OK to me, assuming the pinout is the usual; do you have a link to the place you bought it from? Doubt that's the issue though.
Can you try powering up removing just one wire at a time, to see if that sheds any light? Start with the VCC one.

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16 Nov 2016 09:00 #55956 by FDR
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I don't know if it helps, but I had no luck with using hot glue on fixing soldered wires.
I made that on my H8 mini to fix the programming connector, however I couldn't flash it while it has the hot glue on. When I removed the hot glue, I could flash it without fuzz.
It seems the hot glue conducts to some degree...

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16 Nov 2016 18:05 #55968 by ketsa
Replied by ketsa on topic Devo 7E not powering up after nrf24l01
I would just bridge pins 2 and 3 directly on the NRF module to reduce wiring.

Bad module maybe ?

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16 Nov 2016 20:29 #55970 by manc
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FDR wrote: I don't know if it helps, but I had no luck with using hot glue on fixing soldered wires.
I made that on my H8 mini to fix the programming connector, however I couldn't flash it while it has the hot glue on. When I removed the hot glue, I could flash it without fuzz.
It seems the hot glue conducts to some degree...

Hi,
The hot glue went on recently, after I checked all cabling with a multimeter so shouldnt be causing these issues, will keep it in mind if I still struggle.
Thanks thou.

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16 Nov 2016 20:46 #55971 by manc
Replied by manc on topic Devo 7E not powering up after nrf24l01

ketsa wrote: I would just bridge pins 2 and 3 directly on the NRF module to reduce wiring.

Bad module maybe ?

Hi,

Do you mean the CE & VCC pins?

It could be a bad module, as it has no surface mounted LED's (not that I can see anyways) I have no way of confirming it is powering up or not, I am gonna try and connect a 1S battery to it so it takes no power from the Devo 7E to see if it helps.

Another thought I had was that I have not mentioned that the Devo is not running with the Deviation firmware, should I have flashed the Devo before wiring in the nrf24l01 module?

I have another nrf24l01 module coming from Banggood this time, its the version that most people use of the Devo 7E, fingers crossed this one works.

Below is the ebay listing information of the nrf24l01 module I purchased.


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17 Nov 2016 01:02 #55976 by ajtank
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Yes you need to flash the deviation firmware and set up the hardware.ini in order to control the newly added module. Stock firmware will not recognize the new module.

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17 Nov 2016 09:00 #55982 by RoGuE_StreaK
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manc wrote: Another thought I had was that I have not mentioned that the Devo is not running with the Deviation firmware, should I have flashed the Devo before wiring in the nrf24l01 module?

Erm, yeah that's your problem right there :silly: As ajtank said, stock firmware will not work, and will probably be wondering what the hell it is trying to talk to

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17 Nov 2016 15:08 #55987 by manc
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Ah! Will update the Devo tonight and report back.

School boy error on my part, I hope.

Thanks.

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17 Nov 2016 20:47 #55989 by manc
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Hi,

No joy! Devo still wont power up with the nrf24l01 module wired up, without the module no issues.

Firmware installed faultlessly, powers up now with the new logo and different sequence of beeps.

Holding out for a new nrf24l01 now.

Thanks.

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17 Nov 2016 21:11 #55990 by MikeG
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I have a problem with Devo 7e and nrf24l01. I installed the module & loaded version 4.0.1. All worked perfectly., till I got ambitious & tried to load version 5.0. The Tx does not recognise the module, many of the protocols are still asterisked. Models using DSM2 etc work OK. Have now gone back & tried to reload v4.0.1 and get the same problem, i.e the nrf module is not detected.
What have I done wrong?

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18 Nov 2016 01:34 #55992 by hexfet
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Version 5.0 has a more reliable check for module availability, doing a read from the nRF chip and checking it gets the expected value. A module check working in 4.0.1 and not in 5.0 is often due to a problem with the MISO signal.

However if you switched back to 4.0.1 and still have the issue something likely changed in the hardware. Less likely something was missed in the configuration change - while 4.0.1 had a single tx.ini file, with 5.0 there are separate tx.ini and hardware.ini files in the transmitter root directory.

Or maybe it never worked in 4.0.1 but the module check missed a problem the first time 'round. Did you fly any protocol using the nRF while on 4.0.1?

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18 Nov 2016 10:17 - 18 Nov 2016 16:40 #56000 by MikeG
Replied by MikeG on topic Devo 7E not powering up after nrf24l01
Thanks for the reply.Taking the last point first, I flew two Hisky helicopters using 4.0.1 with complete reliability. I have checked the installation of the nrf module as far as I can, no bvad soldering or broken wires, further than that I can't go as I haven't any test equipment & am electronically illiterate!
Any suggestions as to what to try? Is it possible the files were corrupted in some way? If so, how do I completely clear the tx in order to start again?
Last edit: 18 Nov 2016 16:40 by MikeG. Reason: Thought of another possible reason for problem

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21 Nov 2016 20:40 - 21 Nov 2016 20:43 #56148 by manc
Replied by manc on topic Devo 7E not powering up after nrf24l01
My thread has been hijacked :), only joking.

Well for anyone else experiencing the same problem as me, a replacement nrf24l01 from ebay solved the issue, but there is a difference between the two modules (pictured below), to the untrained eye I believe the original module (left) was an earlier revision (nrf24l01 1452AB) where as the replacement (right) is a newer revision (nrf24l01 1534KC).
Both side by side, they are visually different!

Bad unit up close.

Now to tinker with the tx.ini and see if it pairs my quads.

Thanks to everyone who assisted, your input is valued!
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