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23 Mar 2014 20:35 #21773 by nusbr
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Is there a differente in Code between DEVO 10 and DEVO 8 (use DEVO 8S) Code?
I will Test them tomorrow with a Second Modul. Perhaps it does not work.

Could you post your .ini file?

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24 Mar 2014 07:17 #21786 by blackmoon
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I don't think the model file will change anything but here they are, pay attention that they are for Devo7E, adapt them for Devo8.
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24 Mar 2014 16:28 #21798 by PhracturedBlue
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yes the devo10 still does not have the programmable switch support enabled, so it does not use the new reset behavior. It is only a one-liner to enable, but until I get this resolved, I don't expect to do so. I amy turn off the dveo8 support if I can't figure out what is going on.

As far as the switch goes, all of a sudden I'm getting a reset every 2ms on the AVR. I thought it was coupling related (and it may be) but it really looks like the watchdog (despite being disabled). I've been banging my head against it for a couple days now. It is weird because everything was working fine and now its not.

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24 Mar 2014 18:17 - 24 Mar 2014 18:53 #21803 by nusbr
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Ok. Sorry i dont understand all. Why do this TX (8S) have programmable Switch support? Could it be deactivated? Hope you find the Problem.

Is it not possible to mount the CYRF6936 Modul on the original Place connected? And mount only the other modules on external PCB?
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25 Mar 2014 11:48 #21819 by MassiveOverkill
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Can we assemble this module with only the NRF24L01 and A7101 modules? I'm assuming we just enable\disable non present modules in TX.ini right?

Thanks.

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25 Mar 2014 14:06 #21822 by PhracturedBlue
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So I finally figured out why all my modules had stopped working. I was programming for the 84A, but using a 44A. This was setting the stack pointer out of range and generally making everything broken. You can install a hex file for a 44a on an 84a but not vice-versa. That was a huge waste of several days.

So hopefully now I can actually get the Deviation code functioning properly and get this all turned it.

And MassiveOverkill, yes you can install anything from 1 to 4 modules in the switch. you just need to configure the hardware.ini properly.

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25 Mar 2014 14:41 - 25 Mar 2014 14:41 #21823 by SeByDocKy
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PhracturedBlue wrote: So I finally figured out why all my modules had stopped working. I was programming for the 84A, but using a 44A. This was setting the stack pointer out of range and generally making everything broken. You can install a hex file for a 44a on an 84a but not vice-versa. That was a huge waste of several days.

So hopefully now I can actually get the Deviation code functioning properly and get this all turned it.

And MassiveOverkill, yes you can install anything from 1 to 4 modules in the switch. you just need to configure the hardware.ini properly.


Good news :)

Which one is the best? 44A or 84A ?
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25 Mar 2014 15:11 #21824 by ver2go
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84A if the extra memory is needed, but I think pb says that it barely fills a 24A

www.atmel.com/images/doc8183.pdf

High Endurance, Non-volatile Memory Segments
– 2K/4K/8K Bytes of In-System, Self-programmable Flash Program Memory
• Endurance: 10,000 Write/Erase Cycles
– 128/256/512 Bytes of In-System Programmable EEPROM
• Endurance: 100,000 Write/Erase Cycles
– 128/256/512 Bytes of Internal SRAM

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25 Mar 2014 15:23 #21825 by PhracturedBlue
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Actually there is no reason not to use a 24a. My code only uses ~300bytes. It is unlikely to significantly grow from that, so even the 24a is fine. So when purchasing buy whatever you can get cheapest. I was actually able to buy 44a parts cheaper than 24a ones which is why I use them. The hex files I produce going forward will all be compiled for the 24a, so will work in all 3 versions.

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25 Mar 2014 16:45 #21828 by nusbr
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Great Job PB!

I used the 84 Attiny and had problem with devo module. Is this about the same problem?
Could you tell me which hex file is the actually for all 3 Tiny's?

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26 Mar 2014 15:25 #21861 by PhracturedBlue
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I have released an updated hex file here:
www.deviationtx.com/repository/Multi-Module/

This should be used with the latest nightly build c37f0c2 (or newer)

This nightly supports the multi-module for all transmitters.

You must change your hardware.ini to include:
enable-multimod = A13
Do NOT use:
enable-switch = A13
(I forgot to change the default hardware.ini, it'll be in tomorrow's nightly)

The new code will show a dialog if any module cannot be found and will disable those modules in the transmitter. This will make it easy to know if the switch is working properly.
Make sure you have installed the avr.hex from the above link. Deviation will not work with the original avr.hex I posted previously in this thread.

I have one time seen the A7105 not detect properly. A reboot fixed it, but it may need a better checking routine.

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26 Mar 2014 17:09 #21866 by nusbr
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Have tested them
1. Copied AVR.hex to TX
2. Changed hardware.ini to "enable-multimod = A13"
3. uploaded "programmer-devo8.dfu"to TX
4. Startup TX -> Error Message "ERR: No switch found"
5. Changed Changed hardware.ini to "enable-switch=A13"
6. Startup TX -> Programming O.K
7. Changed hardware.ini to "enable-multimod = A13"
8. uploaded "deviation-devo8-v4.0.1-c37f0c2.dfu"to TX
9. Startup TX -> Missing Modules CYRF6936

Any idee

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26 Mar 2014 18:34 #21867 by PhracturedBlue
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what is in your hardware.ini file?

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26 Mar 2014 19:00 #21869 by nusbr
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I tried programming AVR with "hardware.ini" -> does not work.
then programmed with "Kopie von hardware.ini" -> programming ok

loaded new software dfu and
used "hardware.ini" -> Missing Modules CYRF6936

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26 Mar 2014 19:35 #21871 by PhracturedBlue
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hmm...I don't see anything wrong. Is your multi-module detachable? does it work properly if you disconnect it?

I'll provide a new dfu with some extra debug to see if we can figure out what is going on. It seems all other modules are properly detected. have you checked that the devo module is seated properly and there are no shorts created while attaching the multi-module?

Have you tried going back to v4.01 (without the multi-module) and ensure the module still works?

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26 Mar 2014 19:51 #21872 by nusbr
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Yes, it is. When i disconnect, i have more failures:
Missing Modules:
CYRF6936
A7105
CC2500
NRF24L01
MultiMod

If i have connecte, there is only the original DEVO 8S Modul (CYRF6936) missing.
I could fly with my Hubsan X4. Also PCB works fine. If i mount the CYRF Module to the original Place and deactivate the others, it works fine.

Is it normal, that the HEX file must be programmed with the entry
enable-switch=A13

and then changed to
enable-multimod=A13

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26 Mar 2014 20:12 #21873 by PhracturedBlue
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wait. are you installing the original module in the multi-module?
If you do that, you need to have this in your hardware.ini:
enable-cyrf6936=S0
has_pa-cyrf6936=1

I know about the programmer issue. I'll provide a new programmer that uses the new hardware.ini.

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26 Mar 2014 20:19 #21874 by nusbr
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Yes, i have installed the original Module to the Multi-Module. Ok will Test them again. Thanks a lot.

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26 Mar 2014 21:07 #21875 by nusbr
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Tested them. No Error Message, but could not bind with CB180 and RX802 :(

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26 Mar 2014 22:45 #21877 by PhracturedBlue
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I haven't tried using the CYRF in the multi-module lately. I'll test it out tonight and see if it works for me.

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