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30 Jun 2013 13:15 #11628 by PhracturedBlue
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I don't believe that is a new bug, but regardless, it should now be fixed.

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01 Jul 2013 00:33 #11653 by Pattaya01
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I have been looking a bit more into the voltage drop when you touch the screen.

First, I hooked 2 thin wires to the pins of the battery and inserted the battery so I could measure the real voltage.

1) The voltage showing on the screen during the touching is close to reality: 4.13 is real voltage, 4.18 is being shown

2) The voltage showing on the screen without touching: 4.26, real voltage unchanged, 4.13

So as a conclusion, the battery voltage does not change during touching the screen and is being indicated slightly too high during normal operation.

Of course I cannot draw any conclusion where this difference is coming from. I can only report my observation.

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01 Jul 2013 01:23 #11654 by PhracturedBlue
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The problem is that the voltage measurement is not at the battery but via soime circuitry that attaches it to the A/D converter. This circuitry appears to be sensitive to the current draw of the tx at any given time.

There isn't really anything that can be done about it I think.

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01 Jul 2013 02:04 #11655 by Pattaya01
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Agree with you. Just wanted to make sure you are aware of the situation. If it is a SW problem, you have some more information to work with. If it isn't, it is a very minor problem that everyone can live with I guess.

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01 Jul 2013 02:16 #11656 by PhracturedBlue
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We could not read the voltage sensor when the screen is touched if someone really cares that much, but honestly I don't see the need.

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02 Jul 2013 10:38 - 02 Jul 2013 10:42 #11728 by Pattaya01
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I have just installed the latest build, but this also happened in the previous build. Nothing to do with the GUI, but I found this:

1) Goto Model setup
2) Change protocol to DSM2
3) Change protocol back to "WK2401"
4) Change protocol to DSM2 again
4) increase # of Channels

When I keep on repeating the ">" button for the channels the screen suddenly jumps to "Telemetry".

It happens almost every time, but not 100%. If you repeat this procedure a few times, it will certainly happen. This is on the TX, not the emulator.

PS: Normally, on the Devo12S, where to switch on and off the Telemetry? Seems I can only get there with the above "procedure".
Last edit: 02 Jul 2013 10:42 by Pattaya01.

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02 Jul 2013 10:45 - 02 Jul 2013 11:00 #11729 by vlad_vy
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Not only in that case. If I change model by touching model name on the Main screen, sometimes the screen suddenly jumps to "Telemetry Monitor".

It looks like I pressed Quick Page button.
Last edit: 02 Jul 2013 11:00 by vlad_vy.

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02 Jul 2013 10:51 #11730 by vlad_vy
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Pattaya01 wrote: PS: Normally, on the Devo12S, where to switch on and off the Telemetry? Seems I can only get there with the above "procedure".


It's protocol option. Press DEVO or DSM2 or DSMX protocol and you can enable/disable telemetry.

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02 Jul 2013 11:00 #11731 by rbe2012
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Maybe it's only a light discalibration of the touch screen? This would lead to the telemetry page if the pen is not exactly on the arrow (or not detected exactly enough).

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02 Jul 2013 11:23 - 02 Jul 2013 11:23 #11733 by vlad_vy
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I think in my case it's possible, right down there is the box with telemetry data.
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02 Jul 2013 13:34 #11738 by Freezywilly
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I must be doing something wrong.
When I try this bitbucket.org/PhracturedBlue/deviation-newgui
I get a message that I cannot access this account.

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02 Jul 2013 13:37 #11739 by FDR
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PB already merged back the newgui into the main (deviation) repository, and probably closed or deleted it...

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02 Jul 2013 15:24 #11757 by Pattaya01
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rbe2012 wrote: Maybe it's only a light discalibration of the touch screen? This would lead to the telemetry page if the pen is not exactly on the arrow (or not detected exactly enough).


Impossible. I tried this many times, and I am clearly on the arrow. On top of that, the channel arrow is not even next to the protocol button, it is 1 row lower and on the side.

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02 Jul 2013 16:11 - 02 Jul 2013 16:12 #11760 by vlad_vy
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Definitely there is some problem (sometimes) with Devo 12 touch screen. I purposely many times touch the screen to the right and to the down from '#Channels' spin box (close to control corner). One time protocol changed from DEVO to WK2801, and one time I got 'Telemetry' screen. But I don't touch any control at all, and it was quite far from 'Protocol' control.
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03 Jul 2013 02:08 #11797 by Pattaya01
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I do not think it is a hardware problem with the touchscreen. If that was so, it would happen all the time and would be very reproducible. I think more of some kind of bouncing problem.

Back in the old days, when I was an electronic hardware engineer (ages ago), we had more or less the same phenomena with an array of switches. When a switch was pressed, you had to wait an x amount of milliseconds for the switch to de-bounce. This was usually done by reading the position, go into a loop, read again and if the value remains stable for an x amount of readings, leave the loop and pass the value to the software.

Of course I can be wrong, but it very much looks the same.

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06 Jul 2013 02:02 #11994 by Pattaya01
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I do not know if I am the only one. I have been playing with the Devo12S for a few days now and this problem with the touch screen is getting bigger. I have re-installed the original Devention software, and do not experience any of these problems at all.

So it seems to me, this is a software problem.

Can someone confirm or let me know how to solve this problem?

It happens in almost every screen. My last action was setting a complex mixer with 5 screens and it just jumps to random screens.

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06 Jul 2013 02:25 #11996 by ave1
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Pattaya01, your 12S is acting like mine, (I think). I have not studied when but some times the button I press activates another button and sometimes the page flips to other pages. So busy setting up the TX, I've ignored this anomaly, until you mentioned it and I thought I'd chime in. Once I recalibrated my screen and, this issue is not consistent as I use my TX, 12S.

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06 Jul 2013 04:01 #11999 by Pattaya01
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First, I also thought it was a calibration problem, but I have now re-calibrated a few times, the issue still there.

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06 Jul 2013 04:20 #12000 by ave1
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If the majority is not witness to this, then I wonder what I'm doing to cause it. Or, is my TX causing this, or a static charge from my touch or ? I installed the nightly from 7-4-2013.

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06 Jul 2013 04:32 #12001 by Pattaya01
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vlad_vy also reported this issue, so it is not us doing something wrong. I also installed the latest build, but also the previous build had this problem. I installed back the original Devention SW and the problem was gone. I re-installed the latest build, problem was back again. So it cannot be a hardware or static charge, otherwise the original SW should also show this phenomena.

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