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button input select (toggle switch recognition)
- Durete
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Wow! Congrats guys.
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- Philipp
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This would be nice to have and very convenient, definetly, but on a TX that comes with just two toggle switches and is only capable of two additional ones, this seems not too relevant, at least to me personally.
I understand your argument of keeping the input handling consistent across the whole range of radios. If this is possible without sacrificing the USB capabilities, this would be great and render my arguments invalid . //EDIT: Just read your last post PB, apparently it is. Great job, nvm
I just cycled through all possible inputs in the mixer menu of my Devo7E:
None, AIL, ELE, THR, RUD, HOLD0, HOLD1, FMODE0, FMODE1, Ch1, [...], Ch12, Virt1, [...], Virt10, PPM1, [...], PPM8
Of all these only the bold ones would benefit from this feature, right? Or putting it differently, only physical inputs would have toggle recognition for now?
OT, but slightly related to this: Why are there two menu entries for FMODE and HOLD aswell as the option to invert each of them? Does !FMODE1 not equal FMODE0?
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The reason that we have FMODE0 and FMODE1 is because some transmitters ave 3-way switches and others have 2-way switches for the same purpose. In order to be able to share model files across transmitters, you need to assign functions to specific switch states.. Pre 4.0, it worked the way you expect, but I changed it to make the coding easier and the models more portable.
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- Philipp
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Everybody appreciates the work and effort you and other members of this community put into developing Deviation further and constantly adding more features to it. Therefore I fully understand that you won't let the hardware limitations of just one small radio limit you in your development efforts, which is definitely the right mindset.
Deviation has made so much more out of the little Devo7E and makes it a very compelling radio, please don't get me wrong. I see that we'll have to live with some sacrifices in the long term, unless Walkera recognizes the value Deviation adds to their radios and decides to spend a couple cents more in parts to overcome the current hardware limitations.
I believe the flash size is the current bottleneck of the Devo7E, is this right? Is the flash seperate to the microcontroller, therefore upgradeable? I know that modding puts a lot of potential users of, especially if we're talking about soldering smd chips onto radio mainboards, but as you've said, the camels neck will break. If 'simply' replacing the flash chip of the Devo7E would overcome the most significant limitations, it could be worth it for some users. I know this particular question is off topic, if there's a thread better suited for this I'll continue the discussion there.
Thanks for the explanation regarding FMODE0 and FMODE1, this makes sense to me now.
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- PhracturedBlue
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- Philipp
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I'd like to see a revised Devo7E with 4 toggle switches, full range and a more capable mcu, but Walkera won't make one of its bottom line radios so powerful i guess, but hey, this keeps up the spirit of modding...
I might order one of the STM Nucleo boards and play with that as an learning experience.
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- FDR
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They call that DEVO 6.Philipp wrote: I'd like to see a revised Devo7E with 4 toggle switches, full range and a more capable mcu, but Walkera won't make one of its bottom line radios so powerful i guess, but hey, this keeps up the spirit of modding...
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- Philipp
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- Philipp
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The 7E is almost perfect for all these micro helis and quads due to Deviation, what frustrates me is that this 'almost' is only because of a few dollars (if at all) saved in total cost, just like you said.
On the other hand, it was never meant to run Deviation, never designed to be this powerful.
Walkera could do this easily, everything is there! Deviation runs on it, the ergonomics and size of the shell are well received, the CYRF chip is quite versatile. The price is right and people would pay 15$ to 25$ more for these features, which would cost Walkera only a few dollars more to implement.PhracturedBlue wrote: [...]It would be nice if someone would pick up the torch and build a $50-$80 budget minded Tx in a small form-factor ideal for the swarm of minis and micros flooding the market.
It would be great if Walkera would listen to you regarding some design aspects of their radios, somewhat like the guys from FrSky and openTX.
I know that I am dreaming here, but just imagine a Devo7D (for Deviation ) with 512kb flash on the mcu, 4 toggles, and the single board multi module you guys are developing, for around 100$ This would be THE ONE radio to rule all the toy grade stuff.
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