New deviation logo

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What about this one ? Cool is'nt it ?


Green is very is fashionable at the moment...

Cool! I print it and put it into my Devo8 but I don't get this thing out where the original logo is placed beyond (some kind of transparent acryl). Has anybody tried this? I tested to bend the black parts which seem to hold it but then I was not brave enough to use more force...
But when I see this (and imagine a non-red backlight, maybe white), I think about using my dremel.

I am sorry, I did not regocnize the type of plant used in the logo - its coolness suddenly goes near zero...

But principally the use of the deViation logo from the forum or the one presented somewhere (was it from joshua?) or creating our own is ok for you as long as we respect the law and your rules? I would not have any problem to let you check it before using it...
I really would like to replace the devention logo on my tx to demonstrate the power of opensource (and a little bit to be obviously different).
So if yes: has somebody taken out the original and can tell me how to do?

EDIT: you told it - it's open source and so we can modify it. I think we were only joking a bit around and are serious enough not to affect the reputation of deViation, open source or you.

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Especially to FDR (as creator of the original deviation logo):
Using the same font / letter form as Walkera does could imply a (marketing) connection between deviation and devention which is surely not wanted. At least here in Germany we have heard of judicial struggles because those things could be too lookalike (esp. when used in the same market segment, even if one product is not commercial).
Shall we use another font and therefor a complete different logo?

I really don't think Walkera has an interest in harming deViation because of his logo fonts, cause Walkera knows very well that to use deViation, you must purchase a Walkera Devo TX...
The connection between Devo and deViation is 'by nature'.

FDR wrote: I agree with domcars0.
We do not compete with Walkera, but acually support them.

With the Logo as it is now, the Deviation "brand" is used at the mercy of Walkera, whether we "compete" with them or not, is commercial or not, etc, etc.

Deviation is used in the same class of goods (28), which means Walkera can take action by 1) demanding the that the Deviation logo is not used or must changed, and 2) take legal action to enforce their rights if there is non-compliance.

There is however a principle (it seems to be applied in most countries) which requires Walkera to act to protect their rights within a reasonable period after they first became aware of the infringement. The means they cannot allow/condone the Deviation Logo / Project, even in silence, and then later insist the Logo must be changed. This period would normally be within 12 months, however to claim that defence if/or when they change their minds, you’ll need lots of money and court time.

Devention™ Status (as at 18 Dec 2012)

1. Walkera has registered Devention as trademark (picture/image/look) and it seems also as a word mark
2. It is registered in the USA and possibly in other countries in Class 28 (Games etc)
3. Colour was not claimed as core part of the logo
4. It was first used in 2011 and is status (in the USA) is Published for Opposition 18 Dec 2012

Point 3 is interesting as it implies they "own" all the colours and changing Deviation's colours will not make any difference to the legal position.
Point 4 means they have priority, as Deviation was first used publicly only a year later in 2012.

Note/Disclaimer:
I have a bit of background on trademarks and brands as I have been handling all our company's worldwide trademark registrations and coordinated our defense when somebody stepped on our rights, however I am not a lawyer, this is my personal non-expert opinion, expressed for information only.

If Walkera take action against deViation about the logo, I think that deViation can change his logo .. what's a matter? Is deViation looking for customers? I don't think so...
(I had personnaly such an issue with one of my spamgourmet emails address and my bank, I've just changed the email, nothing else)

domcars0 wrote: If Walkera take action against deViation about the logo, I think that deViation can change his logo .. what's a matter? Is deViation looking for customers? I don't think so...
(I had personnaly such an issue with one of my spamgourmet emails address and my bank, I've just changed it, nothing else)

Domcars is of course 100% right, the question is why do we want the logo to resemble Devention's in the first place?

And I hate to say it, but you could also think about a name change... I know that's a hard pill to swallow, but deviation and devention are pretty close.

Of course, that's why I love it the way it is.. It's the perfect name for the project, but maybe it's just a little too perfect... (and I won't even bring up the standard mixer looking like walkera stock firmware.... )

PB9X ?