Tutorial: Configuring throttle-hold and Expo/DR

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02 Jul 2013 06:04 - 02 Jul 2013 16:04 #11715 by sbstnp
This was moved here from another thread. This instructions were initially done for a Devo 12 owner. If somebody needs different screnshots, for 7e/10 say so please.


1. Throttle hold
There are at least 2 ways of implementing TH in Deviation.

You can do it like I did and use the channel safety method, or you can use the complex mixer. Since I didn't want to complicate things with the complex mixer, I used the channel safety.

In the first pic below, the 3 columns you see are:

channel number and name - clicking on this bring up channel properties, 1-ELE
actual source for this channel THR
type of mixer used - clicking this brings up the mixer page, Simple

First, click on the channel associated with THR. Channel 1 in this case.



You will see a screen like below. The 2 important settings are "Safety" and "Safety value"



Safety selects a condition (a switch) on which Deviation will only output the Safety Value on this channel.

In this case, whenever the Hold switch IS NOT (note the ! character) in the zero position, Deviation should output a value of -110 on this channel. I chose -110 and not -100 just to be on the safe side, this value depends on the ESC.

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02 Jul 2013 06:24 #11716 by sbstnp
2. Expo and D/R

So, how do you implement Expo and D/R for a channel? Well, you can do this again in multiple ways. I'll start with the simplest one.

First, choose the channel. I chose ELE, click on the mixer type on the right.



This window will show, notice in the upper left side the mixer type and the arrows.



Click on the right arrow to change the mixer type to "Expo&DR"



Now you can choose which switch will act on this channel rates. I chose ELE DR, but there is no limitation imposed here. You can choose FMODE for example and have the rates change together with THR and PIT when you switch to IU1 or IU2.





The next thing I did was to change the curve type to EXPO. The pic above shows this. Next, click on the curve's button to bring up this page:




Use the arrows to change the desired expo value. Note you can have different expo settings for negative/positive values, but I'll skip this, I want symmetric expo. Click ok when done.

This screen will show:



Now you basically added DR and Expo to your ELE channel.

If you want different EXPO settings for low and high rates, you need to decouple (or unlink) the current EXPO by clicking on this button:



Now you can have individual expo values. I rarely use this as it can change dramatically the way the heli flies.

Well, hope I did explain everything clearly, let me know if you have questions.

Next probably the complex mixer, but that should have it's own thread really.

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Spektrum Dx9
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28 Aug 2013 01:26 #13343 by weijnri
Thank you for this tut.
I would love to see it with screenshots for the Devo 7e if that is possible.

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09 Sep 2013 18:42 #13669 by gwrivest
I would really like to see this with Devo 10 screenshots if possible.
Thanks in advance! :)

Gerard.

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10 Sep 2013 07:51 #13684 by billmester
Replied by billmester on topic Tutorial: Configuring throttle-hold and Expo/DR
Gerard,
please look at my posts, I have shared 2 .ini`s for Devo 10, all fully configured. Just load them and you can see how I built them.
it is easy, do not worry ;)
bm

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12 Oct 2013 07:34 #14513 by gmcquet
Hi guys, Im brand new with deviation, never actually used it yet. Im now just trying this tutorial. I've noticed on the mixer screen I don't see "Pos 0" "Pos1" etc, I see "High rates" "Med rates". Where am I going wrong? :(


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12 Oct 2013 09:21 - 12 Oct 2013 09:22 #14517 by rbe2012
At first a big small WELCOME (EDIT: 18 posts and still new?)

The Pos0... result from the Romanian language file and is simply the translated text for "High-Rate". You have done nothing wrong.
In the English version they are called High-Rate, Mid-Rate and Low-Rate.
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12 Oct 2013 15:43 #14529 by gmcquet
Hi there,


thanks for the welcome!


Aha yes, I joined a while ago as I was always planning on using deviation. I had my first deviation flight this morning with a Blade 350 qx... worked great! Thankfully, someone had posted a model config for the blade. There is no way I would have been able to create a model template for it, I have soooo much to learn! :-(



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12 Oct 2013 15:44 #14530 by gmcquet
Im wondering how I can set up some dual rates for ele, aile and rudd as well expo too for FMOD 0, then Higher rates and less expo for FMOD 1, and then finally highest rates with very low expo for FMOD 3. I am struggling! :-)





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12 Oct 2013 17:41 #14534 by rbe2012
Change the mixer type to EXPO/DR and you have all you need on one page.

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12 Oct 2013 17:47 #14536 by gmcquet
I got that far but then got a little stuck.


I have a Durafly Spitfire MK 24 with an RX802 inside. I will try again tomorrow and mess around to see if I can get the right settings...

Has anyone done any youtube type tutorials for deviation with regards to expo/mixing etc?


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12 Oct 2013 17:53 #14538 by rbe2012
You have three columns, define a switch for the middle and right row.
Choose a curve for the normal mode (in my example: not FMODE1 and not FMODE2 = FMODE0), like EXPO, configure the expo amount and a scale (=DR) value. For the other flight modes use other scale / expo values which better fit to the flight mode:

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12 Oct 2013 21:58 #14542 by sbstnp

gmcquet wrote: Hi guys, Im brand new with deviation, never actually used it yet. Im now just trying this tutorial. I've noticed on the mixer screen I don't see "Pos 0" "Pos1" etc, I see "High rates" "Med rates". Where am I going wrong? :(


I use Pos0,1,2 in order to match the labeling on the case, because I personally use Pos0 for low rates usually and at some point Deviation had it backwards. No idea if this is still the case though.

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02 Mar 2014 01:32 #21057 by carlnoki
I NEED IT for my DEVO 10 please.

thanks in advance.


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16 Mar 2014 18:00 #21596 by Solmer
Hi, thank you so much for the info. Could you post 7e screen shoots?.

Thanks in advance.

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25 Apr 2014 13:29 #22713 by Rkozak99
Would love to the same screens for the dev10
Thanks in advance.

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