Converting deVention values to deviation values
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15 Jan 2014 06:40 - 17 Feb 2014 15:29 #18523
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Converting deVention values to Deviation values
When you make models for the Deviation Firmware you need to convert some values that the manual lists to use so I made this list.
If a manual uses 0-100 values convert those to -100 to +100 values: value X 2 -100
Example: Manual says to set a value to 70% then 70x2-100 = 40% deviation value.
Example: Throttle Curve - Manual says to set these values: 0% 42% 65% 78% 80%
You would use these values for the deviation values: -100% -16% 30% 56% 60%
This also applies if you want to make a V Shaped Throttle Curve.
Example: Manual says to set the values to 100% 90% 80% 90% 100%
You would use these values for the deviation values: 100% 80% 60% 80% 100%
Example: Gyro Gain - Manual says to set this value: 82%
You would use this value for the deviation value: 64%
Example: Gyro Gain - Manual says to set this values:
GYRO:
RATE SW-GYRO
0: 100.0%
1: 0.0%
You would use these values for the deviation values:
GYRO:
RATE SW-GYRO
0: +100.0%
1: -100.0%
If a manual uses -100 to +100 values then no need to convert those values. Input them as they are.
Example: Pitch Curve - Manual says to set these values: -35, -25, -15, 0, 33, 66, 100
You would use those values also for the deviation values: -35, -25, -15, 0, 33, 66, 100
Example: Throttle Curve - Manual says to set these values: -100, -66, -33, 0, 33, 66, 100
You would use those values also for the deviation values: -100, -66, -33, 0, 33, 66, 100
For a Linear Curve you do not need to convert the values.
Example: Pitch Curve for Stunt Mode - Manual says to set these linear values: 0% 25% 50% 75% 100%
You would use those values also for the deviation values: 0% 25% 50% 75% 100%
Example: Throttle Curve for Normal Mode - Manual says to set these linear values: 0% 25% 50% 75% 100%
You would use those values also for the deviation values: 0% 25% 50% 75% 100%
Dual Rate and Expo you do not need to convert the values.
Example: Dual Rate - Manual says to set this value: 70%
Then you would use that value also for the deviation value: 70%
Example: Expo - Manual says to set this value: 30%
Then you would use that value also for the deviation value: 30%
More information coming soon...
If you have something you would like to add to this, post it in this thread.
When you make models for the Deviation Firmware you need to convert some values that the manual lists to use so I made this list.
If a manual uses 0-100 values convert those to -100 to +100 values: value X 2 -100
Example: Manual says to set a value to 70% then 70x2-100 = 40% deviation value.
Example: Throttle Curve - Manual says to set these values: 0% 42% 65% 78% 80%
You would use these values for the deviation values: -100% -16% 30% 56% 60%
This also applies if you want to make a V Shaped Throttle Curve.
Example: Manual says to set the values to 100% 90% 80% 90% 100%
You would use these values for the deviation values: 100% 80% 60% 80% 100%
Example: Gyro Gain - Manual says to set this value: 82%
You would use this value for the deviation value: 64%
Example: Gyro Gain - Manual says to set this values:
GYRO:
RATE SW-GYRO
0: 100.0%
1: 0.0%
You would use these values for the deviation values:
GYRO:
RATE SW-GYRO
0: +100.0%
1: -100.0%
If a manual uses -100 to +100 values then no need to convert those values. Input them as they are.
Example: Pitch Curve - Manual says to set these values: -35, -25, -15, 0, 33, 66, 100
You would use those values also for the deviation values: -35, -25, -15, 0, 33, 66, 100
Example: Throttle Curve - Manual says to set these values: -100, -66, -33, 0, 33, 66, 100
You would use those values also for the deviation values: -100, -66, -33, 0, 33, 66, 100
For a Linear Curve you do not need to convert the values.
Example: Pitch Curve for Stunt Mode - Manual says to set these linear values: 0% 25% 50% 75% 100%
You would use those values also for the deviation values: 0% 25% 50% 75% 100%
Example: Throttle Curve for Normal Mode - Manual says to set these linear values: 0% 25% 50% 75% 100%
You would use those values also for the deviation values: 0% 25% 50% 75% 100%
Dual Rate and Expo you do not need to convert the values.
Example: Dual Rate - Manual says to set this value: 70%
Then you would use that value also for the deviation value: 70%
Example: Expo - Manual says to set this value: 30%
Then you would use that value also for the deviation value: 30%
More information coming soon...
If you have something you would like to add to this, post it in this thread.
Last edit: 17 Feb 2014 15:29 by Tom Z.
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15 Jan 2014 07:18 #18528
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Replied by rbe2012 on topic Factory Firmware Values to Deviation Values
Tom Z wrote: Example 2: Manual says to set these values for a Throttle Curve: 0% 42% 65% 78% 80%
Then you would use these values for the deviation values: -100% -16% 30% 56% 60%
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15 Jan 2014 07:26 - 15 Jan 2014 07:28 #18529
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My easy way to do the conversion to Devo to Deviation in your head
Ex: Convert 80% setting of a 0-100% range to the deviation -100 to +100 range:
Hope this helps.
Ex: Convert 80% setting of a 0-100% range to the deviation -100 to +100 range:
- Start with the Devention full scale value, eg. 100%
- Subtract the Devention setting from the full scale value: 100% - 80% = 20%
- Multiply the result with 2: 20% x 2 = 40%
- Subtract the answer from the Deviation full scale value: 100% - 40% = 60%
Hope this helps.
Last edit: 15 Jan 2014 07:28 by RandMental.
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15 Jan 2014 07:36 #18530
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Thanks. I did forgot to convert that one. I edited the post.
Replied by Tom Z on topic Factory Firmware Values to Deviation Values
rbe2012 wrote:
Tom Z wrote: Example 2: Manual says to set these values for a Throttle Curve: 0% 42% 65% 78% 80%
Then you would use these values for the deviation values: -100% -16% 30% 56% 60%
Thanks. I did forgot to convert that one. I edited the post.
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15 Jan 2014 07:52 #18531
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Thanks RandMental.
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16 Jan 2014 22:40 #18572
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I have another method
Ex: Convert 80% setting of a 0-100% range to the deviation -100 to +100 range:
Ex2: Convert 30% setting of a 0-100% range to the deviation -100 to +100 range:
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Replied by domcars0 on topic Factory Firmware Values to Deviation Values
RandMental wrote: My easy way to do the conversion to Devo to Deviation in your head
Ex: Convert 80% setting of a 0-100% range to the deviation -100 to +100 range:
- Start with the Devention full scale value, eg. 100%
- Subtract the Devention setting from the full scale value: 100% - 80% = 20%
- Multiply the result with 2: 20% x 2 = 40%
- Subtract the answer from the Deviation full scale value: 100% - 40% = 60%
Hope this helps.
I have another method
Ex: Convert 80% setting of a 0-100% range to the deviation -100 to +100 range:
- Substract 50% from the Devention setting: 80% - 50% = 30%
- Multiply the result with 2: 30% x 2 = 60%
Ex2: Convert 30% setting of a 0-100% range to the deviation -100 to +100 range:
- Substract 50% from the Devention setting: 30% - 50% = -20%
- Multiply the result with 2: -20% x 2 = -40%
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17 Jan 2014 23:47 #18609
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Thanks domcars0.
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19 Jan 2014 13:57 - 20 Jan 2014 05:30 #18676
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Can somebody see if I have everything here correct or not for Dual Rate.
1. Scale -/+ with the defaults of -100/+100 on this option page are for Dual Rate.
Picture 1.
2. If I have Scale set to 100 (Picture 2) I will have 100% servo travel using the defaults of -100/+100 in Picture 1.
Picture 2.
3. If I have Scale set to 125 (Picture 3) I will have 125% servo travel using the defaults of - 100/+100 in Picture 1.
Picture 3.
4. If I want 150% servo travel what do I increase the values to in Picture 1
so that when I set the Scale in Picture 3 to 125% I will get 150% servo travel?
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1. Scale -/+ with the defaults of -100/+100 on this option page are for Dual Rate.
Picture 1.
2. If I have Scale set to 100 (Picture 2) I will have 100% servo travel using the defaults of -100/+100 in Picture 1.
Picture 2.
3. If I have Scale set to 125 (Picture 3) I will have 125% servo travel using the defaults of - 100/+100 in Picture 1.
Picture 3.
4. If I want 150% servo travel what do I increase the values to in Picture 1
so that when I set the Scale in Picture 3 to 125% I will get 150% servo travel?
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Last edit: 20 Jan 2014 05:30 by Tom Z.
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19 Jan 2014 20:32 #18715
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Set the scale- and scale+ to 125...
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20 Jan 2014 03:33 #18739
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I think it will be 156.25%.
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20 Jan 2014 05:20 #18750
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Yep, indeed, it is enough to set it to 120, but tha min/max would limit it to 150 anyway...
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20 Jan 2014 05:35 #18755
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OK I assume my questions 2 and 3 are correct as nobody said they were not so that is good.
And the answer FDR posted was for question 4 I take it.
4. If I want 150% servo travel what do I increase the values to in Picture 1
so that when I set the Scale in Picture 3 to 125% I will get 150% servo travel?
Set the scale- and scale+ to 125...
And the answer FDR posted was for question 4 I take it.
4. If I want 150% servo travel what do I increase the values to in Picture 1
so that when I set the Scale in Picture 3 to 125% I will get 150% servo travel?
Set the scale- and scale+ to 125...
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20 Jan 2014 06:30 - 20 Jan 2014 06:31 #18759
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In Picture1 set the Scale- and Scale+ to 120% and set the Scale in Picture 3 to 125%, and you will get 150% servo travel (1.20*1.25=1.50).
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In Picture1 set the Scale- and Scale+ to 150% and set the Scale in Picture 3 to 100%, and you will get 150% servo travel (1.50*1.00=1.50).
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In Picture1 set the Scale- and Scale+ to 150% and set the Scale in Picture 3 to 100%, and you will get 150% servo travel (1.50*1.00=1.50).
Last edit: 20 Jan 2014 06:31 by vlad_vy.
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20 Jan 2014 16:22 #18778
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Thanks!
I am making some more models to post here and need to set the DR over 100%.
I don't think I will need to go more that 125% max as the servos might bind but if I need to I know now how to do it.
I am making some more models to post here and need to set the DR over 100%.
I don't think I will need to go more that 125% max as the servos might bind but if I need to I know now how to do it.
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24 Jan 2014 18:08 #19028
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I need to make these gyro values which use 0-100%.
GYRO:
RATE SW-GYRO
0: 100.0%
1: 0.0%
For the deviation values I would use:
0: +100.0%
1: 0.0% - Is this correct or would I use -100% instead of 0%?
GYRO:
RATE SW-GYRO
0: 100.0%
1: 0.0%
For the deviation values I would use:
0: +100.0%
1: 0.0% - Is this correct or would I use -100% instead of 0%?
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24 Jan 2014 18:40 #19031
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I think you should use -100%
Your gyro values are from min=0% to max=100%
Deviation uses values from min=-100% to max=+100%
Your gyro values are from min=0% to max=100%
Deviation uses values from min=-100% to max=+100%
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25 Jan 2014 14:25 #19082
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Thanks. I was thinking "0%" would convert to "0%".
I added this as an example in the first post.
I added this as an example in the first post.
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