Blade 130 X - Standard Settings

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08 Jan 2014 00:00 - 08 Jan 2014 00:10 #18166 by Tom Z

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Scott Bishop wrote: Will the 130x Devo10 config work on the 7e fw deviation 4.01 ?

It should in general (pitch curves, throttle curves, gyro gain, reverse settings, travel adjustment, protocol, mode, and other settings) but the 7e has less switches and features like only one stunt mode.
I assume you would only get normal mode and stunt mode one with my devo 10 model.
I don't know what will happen with D/R and Expo as the 7e won't have the switches I assigned them to.
Also if the 7e has switch icons you may have to assign them too.

See this post #12810.

deviationtx.com/forum/model-configs/1665...tings?start=20#12810

See this post also.

deviationtx.com/forum/3-feedback-questio...-work-in-the-devo-10

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08 Jan 2014 00:11 #18167 by Scott Bishop

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Thanks, Tom.

I loaded it up, it binds fine, throttles up fine, though the tail doesn't hold at all. The heli just spins. It's almost like the rudder is reversed, so I reversed it in the devo but now it just spins the other way.

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08 Jan 2014 00:20 #18168 by Tom Z

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Your welcome.
Does the DR/EXPO work?
It sounds like the gyro gain.
I will load a devo 10 model into my 7e emulator and see if I can figure out
what you need to change to get the tail to hold.

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08 Jan 2014 00:28 #18169 by Scott Bishop

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I was thinking gyro gain, too. I think these are supposed to have gyro inhibit. Waiting on the battery to charge fully to test more.

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08 Jan 2014 00:30 - 08 Jan 2014 00:30 #18171 by Tom Z

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I have my devo 10 model in the 7e emulator now. It shows that DR/EXPO is working and at the values I assigned them to in the devo 10.
Only normal mode works for throttle, no stunt modes.
Only normal mode works for pitch, no stunt modes.
I don't see any gyro gain at all.

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08 Jan 2014 00:37 #18172 by Scott Bishop

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Ugh, I noticed something. My kids use this transmitter for their heli's, too. It looks like they messed with the calibration. Re-calibrated, works fine now.

Thanks for trying to help.

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08 Jan 2014 00:49 #18173 by Tom Z

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Thanks good it works.
Can you confirm if the following work or not?

1. DR/EXPO - my emulator shows it does work but does it work on your Tx?

2. Normal mode and stunt mode - my emulator shows that normal mode and stunt mode are the same. It doesn't change the pitch curves that I assigned in the devo 10 model. It shows normal and stunt mode are the same. If so don't try to 3D with as the two modes are -3* negative pitch. So negative pitch would be much less than positive pitch which is about 10* or so.

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08 Jan 2014 01:18 #18175 by Scott Bishop

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Yes, the pitch changed while in stunt mode to more neg pitch. I didn't look at it that close, and I didn't fly in stunt mode tonight because I'm in my garage testing it, but I'm certain it changed when I was originally testing it out this evening. I'll check more when the batteries recharge and report back to make sure.

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08 Jan 2014 01:31 #18177 by Tom Z

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OK sounds good. If we can confirm everything is working correctly I will post that my model will also work for the devo 7e. I don't have the devo 6 or 7e so that is why I didn't make models for them. I can make models in the 7e emulator for the 7e but I would like to have it test flown by someone before I post the model.

Thanks.

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08 Jan 2014 07:53 - 08 Jan 2014 18:39 #18200 by Scott Bishop

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Hi Tom,

I did manage to test it and everything is working, I couldn't find anything that didn't feel abnormal at all and your normal mode works great, my son was able to get it to fly too. Nice work!

Thanks for the help and all that you do.

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08 Jan 2014 13:54 #18214 by Tom Z

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Hi Scott,

Your welcome.
Thanks for testing the model for me and letting me know it works correctly.
This means my models will also work on the Devo 7E without having to change any settings.

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08 Jan 2014 18:47 - 08 Jan 2014 18:48 #18238 by Scott Bishop

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I did notice something small, today, when you pull the rudder to the far left or far right, occasionally it won't bring the rudder back to center. It's almost like it gets stuck, however, with movements that don't maximize the left and right rudder, it centers fine. It only happens when you go all the way and only occasionally. It's like the servo is pushing the rudder too far(either way) and binding it.

I'm guessing that can be adjusted, but I have no idea what to adjust to shorten that servo movement or if I'm even correct in thinking that.

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08 Jan 2014 20:25 #18244 by Tom Z

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I would first re-calibrate the sticks (again) then keep working the rudder stick and see if it returns to center every time when you max out the stick in both directions.

It does sound like the servos might be binding once in a while.
I would turn down the rudder travel adjustment. This is how I believe you would do it in the 7e. I am doing this in the 7e emulator so it should be the same on your Tx. But I don't know what value to have you try as they go up and down to 250. Default is 100.
Here is what I am talking about.
Model Menu, Mixer, RUD 5-Hold (click this), Scale minus and Scale positive
are the travel adjustments.

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09 Jan 2014 05:22 - 09 Jan 2014 05:24 #18261 by Scott Bishop

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I think it's set to gyro hold in the heli, that's all done by programming the heli itself. I don't have a spektrum tx to get into programming mode for the 130, but I'm pretty sure that's what it is.

On spektrums, to get into programming mode for the 130, you can set the throttle to full, turn the tx on, then plug the heli up and it puts the 130 in programming mode. Tried it with the devo, but no luck.

Long story short, I don't think it's the config.

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09 Jan 2014 07:39 #18266 by Scream

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Hey Scott,

For tail binding, try moving the servo closer to the body to create slightly more distance for the pushrod to travel, you should also grease the tail shaft slightly and make sure its straight. The xtreme dual point pitch slider is realy worth looking into if you like upgrading.

For entering the 130x gyro adjustment mode, you don't need a spectrum. Just make sure TH is off and that doesn't do it, up your throttle min/max to -/+ 150 and you should have no issues putting the 130x into xmas tree mode

Happy landings!

Cheers!
-=S=-

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09 Jan 2014 18:43 - 09 Jan 2014 20:10 #18291 by Scott Bishop

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Thanks Scream, yeah, I tried both of those actually, the servo placement and the 150 min max.

I wanted to get in there and turn my gain down on my rudder to correct this tail from spazzing out while I was at it.

For whatever reason this devo just will not stick that 130 in programming mode. It just wants to bind up instead.

Edit: Figured it out, I set the scale both to 150 too, and that got me in. Finally!

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