Nova Quanum (eventually Cheerson CX-20)

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11 Aug 2014 18:21 #25155 by JWarrior
Nova Quanum (eventually Cheerson CX-20) was created by JWarrior
Here is a model config pour the quad "NOVA Quanum".
It might work for the Cheerson CX-20

My Devo 7E is settled with 2 additional switches
Left Side (SWA) is a 2-position
Right side (SWB) is a 3-position
My firmware is a nightly build : devo7e-v4.01-3b6213a8
I have a RX701 in the quad

Notice the hardware.ini is set with "extra-switches = 3x2" as there is no option for a 3x+2x but I just had to use SWA1 and SWA2

For the flight modes, I set them to the exact same switches combinations as the stock TX of the RTF version (notice the SWA-SWB permutation that has no effect)

I have the 6th Flight Mode with both FMODE & ALT HOLD switches (this configuration is prioritary to any SWA-SWB combination). I made it "Land Mode" in order to have an idiot-proof :silly: configuration :
all 4 switches high => Stabilize mode (= manual fly)
all 4 switches down => Land mode

I use the right trims to drive the gimbals (replacement of the knobs on the stock TX)
I also set a proportional countdown timer linked to THROTTLE (value has to be set according to your battery)

I don't use the CH6 in the FC

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Enjoy your flights !
Yann
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09 Mar 2015 02:30 #29474 by gurusonwheels
Replied by gurusonwheels on topic Nova Quanum (eventually Cheerson CX-20)
not binding to my opensource cx-20 . any ideas ?

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09 Mar 2015 20:08 #29505 by Deal57
Replied by Deal57 on topic Nova Quanum (eventually Cheerson CX-20)
The RX 701 receiver is not the standard RX for the CX-20. According to this thread (my CX-20 is still in transit) you should be able to use Flysky protocol. So you should be able to just change the line in the Model2.ini that says "protocol=Devo" to "protocol=Flysky".

Let us know what you get. I hope to have mine later this week... :whistle:

Deviation Devo7e 3way switch mod, A7105, NRF24L01
Devo6s 2x2 switch mod, trim mod, haptic, multimodule, A7105, NRF24L01, CC2500
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09 Mar 2015 21:07 #29507 by gurusonwheels
Replied by gurusonwheels on topic Nova Quanum (eventually Cheerson CX-20)
wish it was that easy .. i tried switching to every protocol .

No sync . i have cx-20 with solid white flight controller
and white receiver . flight controller has APM 2.52 on circuit board .

wish i could get it to work .

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09 Mar 2015 22:16 #29509 by aMax
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gurusonwheels wrote: wish it was that easy .. i tried switching to every protocol .


www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=28848146&postcount=3246

Devo7e, TaranisQ X7, R9M , 4in1 MM, Futaba FC18plusV3.2 & DFT/FLD-02

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09 Mar 2015 23:18 #29510 by Deal57
Replied by Deal57 on topic Nova Quanum (eventually Cheerson CX-20)
Hmm... that link seems to be just another question about which protocol.

After checking both Google and Bing, the only specific reference seems to be from Tesla1856, reporting second-hand. I don't see other confirmation in any search, but maybe i'm not searching for the right thing. In any case I'll have one to test in a few days (or maybe weeks...)

www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=30829980&postcount=16317

Deviation Devo7e 3way switch mod, A7105, NRF24L01
Devo6s 2x2 switch mod, trim mod, haptic, multimodule, A7105, NRF24L01, CC2500
Devo12e 4-in-1 with voice mod -- it speaks!!

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10 Mar 2015 22:46 - 10 Mar 2015 22:49 #29540 by aMax
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If take a look inside the CX20 tx, you will notice, that the module looks quite alike the shielded module you will find into the Flysky and the Turnigy tx module.

raw.githubusercontent.com/jlnaudin/x-VTO.../cx20transmitter.jpg

www.rctech.net/forum/attachments/radio-e...ter-dsc01211-mod.jpg

Devo7e, TaranisQ X7, R9M , 4in1 MM, Futaba FC18plusV3.2 & DFT/FLD-02
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09 Apr 2015 18:38 - 09 Apr 2015 19:05 #30945 by 30secs
Replied by 30secs on topic Nova Quanum (eventually Cheerson CX-20)
I'm getting my cheerson cx-20 tomorrow and just wanted to confirm -- so the cheerson cx-20 does not work with the default hardware on the 7E? i will need to install the A7105 or the cheerson chip?
Also, is the Devo 7E superior to the stock tx in every way? Any feature you think the stock tx is better than the 7E?
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10 Apr 2015 03:07 #30971 by bobt2000
Replied by bobt2000 on topic Nova Quanum (eventually Cheerson CX-20)
I have the Big Fly Shark (BFS) version of the Nova (Cheerson CX-20). They have 3 different FC's available but the tx's all work the same as far as selecting flight modes go.
I have a Devo 8s and 802 rx and would LOVE to use them on the CX-20.
One of the biggest problems with BFS version of the CX-20 is the failsafe mode. Rather than dropping ch.3 to a low level, it actually activates the RTL function in ch5. causing the FC to bring the quad home......most times.
Will this firmware work on the BFS version?

PS: I'm THRILLED that the right trim is being used for ch6 (gimbal)....I have been scratching my head looking at the stock programming for that.

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10 Apr 2015 17:57 - 10 Apr 2015 17:59 #30998 by Deal57
Replied by Deal57 on topic Nova Quanum (eventually Cheerson CX-20)
I am still waiting to see if Gearbest ever even shipped my CX-20, but in the meantime I'm getting ready. If we can bind with devo, for the 7e you'll need an A7105 module, and given this application you want the PA version. I have found no one who can confirm that the Deviation protocols can bind with the CX-20 stock.

I have seen a number of people using DEVO with a non-stock RX. So once mine arrives I'll see if I can capture the TX and RX data. Once we know the data stream I hope some of our wizards can figure out the tricks.

With the 7e I've used the trim and other buttons to do stepped things, we just have to get the INI file right one we get a bind!

Deviation Devo7e 3way switch mod, A7105, NRF24L01
Devo6s 2x2 switch mod, trim mod, haptic, multimodule, A7105, NRF24L01, CC2500
Devo12e 4-in-1 with voice mod -- it speaks!!
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10 Apr 2015 19:17 #31007 by 30secs
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Deal57 wrote: I am still waiting to see if Gearbest ever even shipped my CX-20, but in the meantime I'm getting ready. If we can bind with devo, for the 7e you'll need an A7105 module, and given this application you want the PA version. I have found no one who can confirm that the Deviation protocols can bind with the CX-20 stock.

I have seen a number of people using DEVO with a non-stock RX. So once mine arrives I'll see if I can capture the TX and RX data. Once we know the data stream I hope some of our wizards can figure out the tricks.

With the 7e I've used the trim and other buttons to do stepped things, we just have to get the INI file right one we get a bind!


I dont think there's a seperate A7105+PA module is there? I only saw one kind. It's incredible that no one with devo and the cx20 can simply confirm their setup.

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10 Apr 2015 23:07 #31025 by Deal57
Replied by Deal57 on topic Nova Quanum (eventually Cheerson CX-20)
This is the one: A7105-D03-PA .

I agree, but since many of the owners have the Quanum Nova version (which comes without a receiver), it seems that the general approach has been to use alternative RX. With a Walkera or spektrum RX you can easily bind to Deviation without the need for an additional module.

Deviation Devo7e 3way switch mod, A7105, NRF24L01
Devo6s 2x2 switch mod, trim mod, haptic, multimodule, A7105, NRF24L01, CC2500
Devo12e 4-in-1 with voice mod -- it speaks!!

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12 May 2015 14:21 - 12 May 2015 14:27 #32446 by Deal57
Replied by Deal57 on topic Nova Quanum (eventually Cheerson CX-20)
I've hooked up my Salea to the CX-20 stock TX and checked the lines connected to the transmitter module. There are 6 lines from the TX board to the module, and line 1 is definitely ground. The remaining five lines are less obvious. I cannot see any activity on line 6, so i've concentrated on lines 2-5. When I get the capture, here's the pattern I've seen. The first photo is the initialization of the board when it is turned on. The second photo shows the pattern that happens 10 seconds later, presumably bound to the receiver.







I don't think this is exactly what i should be getting. Can anyone look at this and tell me if anything is missing? I don't think this is exactly what i should be getting. If you need to see the entire capture it is at dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31578062/CX2...%20%5B8%5D.logicdata .

Thank you!

Deviation Devo7e 3way switch mod, A7105, NRF24L01
Devo6s 2x2 switch mod, trim mod, haptic, multimodule, A7105, NRF24L01, CC2500
Devo12e 4-in-1 with voice mod -- it speaks!!
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12 May 2015 14:44 #32447 by hexfet
Replied by hexfet on topic Nova Quanum (eventually Cheerson CX-20)
Looks like maybe you're on the right pins but the sample rate is too low. Start with a high sample rate to get an idea of the spi clock frequency.

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12 May 2015 15:31 #32452 by Deal57
Replied by Deal57 on topic Nova Quanum (eventually Cheerson CX-20)
I hadn't tried that yet! Thank you.

I think this should be in Protocol Development, right? I'll start a thread there unless you think otherwise.

Deviation Devo7e 3way switch mod, A7105, NRF24L01
Devo6s 2x2 switch mod, trim mod, haptic, multimodule, A7105, NRF24L01, CC2500
Devo12e 4-in-1 with voice mod -- it speaks!!

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