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- billmester
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After using my DEVO10 for years, I have been flying helis and electric planes. Now, I am trying nitro birds.
I am trying to configure a trim but I am stuck now. If anyone has some idea, please give me some help.
So: I am setting up a plane with a nitro engine. The goal is to have a switchable idle throttle opening (i.e. at -70, or at 15%)
The THR has 3 mixers:
#1: simple THR 1-to-1
#2: GEAR switch, with MAX mixer, fixed value (-70), TRIM enabled
#3: throttle hold (from this forum) on RUD DR switch
So far so good, throttle hold closes all. When open, THR operates 1-to-1, unless GEAR 1, in this case the THR minimum stops at 15%,
so the engine will not stop when the THR arm is pulled to zero, it keeps the idle open.
But I want to have "trim" on the idle. I want to trim only the value of -70 minimum value, but leave the max value on +100.
And only if the I have enabled the GEAR 1 (idle switch).
I picked the upper left trim button for this. The goal is to trim ONLY mixer #2 and the trim should have no
effect on the other mixers of the THR channel (otherwise the endpoint setting of the carburettor servo is messed up).
So far I could set it up only so that when I use the trim button, the values are changing in both #1 and #2 mixers.
Any ideas are welcome!
Thanks,
bm
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- billmester
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I have tried it with CH1 and THR entered into the Trim menu too... maybe I am messing up something at the Trim menu?
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It is a work in progress and full of junk, as I was trying many options...
Normally I keep it clean but this one became a struggle
Sorry, the idle is on ELEV DR, the GEAR will be flaperons.
Thanks for the help, much appreciated.
bm
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Only Ch1 and Virt1 are configured as a proof of concept.
TRIM L+- changes the output of Virt1, which is added as the second page to the throttle just as you have done with the max function.
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when setting up a trim as a virtual channel, you should use a channel > 8 (not that it really matters, but still)
you would want to follow the instructions in the manual for how to do this (section 11.3)
I also have no idea what 'It' is in the statement 'It works with NO TRIM too' Sorry, but can you try to explain again?
Are you trying to follow my instructions above, or just play around with something different? as I said you will not be able to enable trims in the normal way to get the behavior you want.
EDIT: Or....you could just look at FDR's example, which is basically what I was trying to convey
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"It" meant that regardless of the TRIM / NO TRIM setting in the bottom, the trim button modifies the value of the channel.
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The .ini gave -100 to 100 THR range with ELEVDR off. Trim does not count.
ELEVDR on gave -100 to 80. Trim works, but offsets top AND bottom values too. (example: trim of 3 clicks gives -97 to 83)
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I used an other virtual channel to eliminate the effect on the normal throttle values...
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I realized that the manual doesn't really describe how to do this. I did it using 2 virtual channels. I have a feeling this isn't necessary, but I don't have time to look at it further right now.
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(I'll try to understand it tomorrow, it is getting late here.... and my brain just shut down.)
It was actually an honor to be helped directly by You guys!
I'll post the finished .ini here when it is done.
Have a great day!
Cheers, bm
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Dögös!billmester wrote: ...and by the way, this is the bird that will use this .ini.
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I still don't get it fully, how it works and why did I need Channel 7 for the 6 channel receiver (without it, it does not work), but now it works as I planned.
-RuddDR is used for Throttle Hold. Closes carburettor completely, no matter what.
-ELEVDR controls the Idle. When THRHOLD is enabled, then it keeps the carburettor open at 15%, and can be trimmed (upper left trim) from 5% to 25%. Trim only works when this is active, so avoiding surprises and saving the settings (I have added this.)
-MIX controls the onboard glow ignition driver
-FMOD sets the control throws
-AileDR resets the counter
-There are 2 aileron servos in this plane. I have made one common virtual channel, so with modifying one mixer will effect both. In case somebody wants differential.
This could be a good tepmlate for glow planes
Cheers
bm
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