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29 Oct 2013 11:13 #15121 by Cesco
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I got my "latency test" firmware running, but i get strange results on previous firmware (not the one you deleted).

I get 22ms on every x-channel.

Now its easily possible that my latency measurement is wrong.

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29 Oct 2013 11:16 - 03 Nov 2013 06:01 #15122 by vlad_vy
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29 Oct 2013 12:00 - 29 Oct 2013 12:10 #15124 by Cesco
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channels numbered 0 to 7
8 xchannels 88ms
7 xchannels 88ms chan 7 missing
6 xchannels 66ms chan 3 , 7 missing
5 xchannels 66ms chan 3 , 6 , 7 missing chan 0 , 4 , 1 , 5 , 2 working
4 xchannels 44ms chan 2 , 3 , 6 , 7 missing chan 0 , 4 , 1 , 5 working
3 xchannels 44ms chan 5 , 2 , 3 , 6 , 7 missing chan 0 , 4 , 1 working
2 xchannels 22ms chan 1 , 5 , 2 , 3 , 6 , 7 missing chan 0 , 4 working
1 xchannels 22ms chan 4 , 1 , 5 , 2 , 3 , 6 , 7 missing chan 0 working

This is good, but ...
why this 0 4 1 5 2 sequence and not 0 1 2 3 4 ?
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29 Oct 2013 13:08 - 29 Oct 2013 13:37 #15127 by vlad_vy
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Is it for last firmware? I don't quite understand, all 8 x-channels are in working state?

The sequence 0 4 1 5 2 6 3 7 - it's because for first packet = 0 1 2 3 and for second packet = 0+4 1+4 2+4 3+4 (0 1 2 3). If I do not change counter for second packet, it's normal sequence. With optimal arrangement it always will be not in series.

If you test previous firmware, you will find 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7, but only first 3 x-channels have delays 22ms, 44ms, 66ms, and all others have delay 88ms.

If you will look in capture from DX18, it's not in series.
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29 Oct 2013 13:38 #15128 by Cesco
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vlad_vy wrote: Is it for last firmware? I don't quite understand, all 8 x-channels are in working state


Last firmware, yes.

Everithing works how it should, all ok.

I PM you where to get access to my DX18QQ test person.

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29 Oct 2013 13:43 #15129 by vlad_vy
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If you have tested your software with DX18 and software works with DX18 and Devo12, it seems we got working version.

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29 Oct 2013 13:46 #15130 by Cesco
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vlad_vy wrote: If you have tested your software with DX18 and software works with DX18 and Devo12, it seems we got working version.


I guess so :) :) :)

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29 Oct 2013 13:50 #15131 by vlad_vy
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Last question, what will be best, last firmware with optimal delays or previous firmware with x-channels in series (0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7)?

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29 Oct 2013 15:47 #15133 by Cesco
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Last firmware

After some thinking i know the reason for the channel sequence.
You are right, it must be this way !

Good work :)

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29 Oct 2013 16:58 - 30 Oct 2013 04:40 #15134 by vlad_vy
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The X-Plus channels structure

Channel numbers 0 to 11 are normal, with data resolution 11bit (2048).
Channel 12 carries the X-Plus channels, with data resolution 9bit (512).

Channel transfer structure:
packet 1 -> 1 5 2 4 6 10 12
packet 2 -> 0 7 3 8 9 11 12

X-Plus data format
each 16bit X-Plus data value is defined as:

a bbbb cc ddddddddd

a: always 0
bbbb: the channel number, always 12
cc: X-Plus channel number, low 2 bits, third bit defined by packet number, 1st packet = 0, second packet = 1
dd..: X-Plus channel data, 9 bits, 256 is midpoint

The channel data will be 0xffff if the specific X-Plus channel slot is unused.

1 to 2 X-Plus channels, every 22ms
3 to 4 X-Plus channels, every 44ms
5 to 6 X-Plus channels, every 66ms
7 to 8 X-Plus channels, every 88ms
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30 Oct 2013 06:22 #15141 by vlad_vy
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Cesco, I have new idea. If you can bind/test your software with DSM2 1024 mode and DX18, I can build firmware with X-Plus for DSMX and DSM2 (1024). I think it will work also.

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01 Nov 2013 10:51 #15190 by Cesco
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I can see how x-chan can work with DSM2 2048. Tell me if you have a version.

But dsm2 1024 ? The cahnnel field is wrong.

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01 Nov 2013 11:24 #15191 by vlad_vy
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Now I think you are right. It's unlikely that X-Plus 8 module can decode two different channel fields.

In that case we need wait next release. After that will be possible to implement 1024/2048 switching for DSM2 protocol.

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01 Nov 2013 12:20 - 01 Nov 2013 12:22 #15192 by rbe2012
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For testing simply add one line in dsm2.c and you get Model.proto_ops[1] Model.proto_opts[1]=0 for 1024 and =1 for 2048:
static const char * const dsm_opts[] = {
  _tr_noop("Telemetry"),  _tr_noop("Off"), _tr_noop("On"), NULL,
  _tr_noop("Resolution"), _tr_noop("Steps: 1024"), _tr_noop("Steps: 2048"), NULL,
  NULL
};
You can use it where needed.
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01 Nov 2013 17:19 - 01 Nov 2013 17:19 #15204 by vlad_vy
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Now I have protocol option and can use it.



But, I don't know how to disable 'DSM2 resolution' change (from default 1024) if number of channels < 8?
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01 Nov 2013 17:36 #15205 by rbe2012
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The protocol options are not conditional. You can set them to any value in any case.
It is part of the code to decide if it's used. Maybe we can show an explanation or hint near the option, but it has to fit in the first field of the array (resp. on the screen where it is located actually and not hidden behind the value box).

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01 Nov 2013 20:39 #15209 by Cesco
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If we could use 1024 OR 2048 in DSM2 this would be great.
Also maybe "enable x-channels" or not. Auto gray if 1024 selected.

You guys aware this could be a big thing with truck / boat people?

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02 Nov 2013 07:55 - 03 Nov 2013 07:28 #15218 by vlad_vy
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It seems all issues solved. But it required thorough testing.

Cesco, can you test all modes: < 8 channels (1024), > 7 channels (1024), > 7 channels (2048), X-Plus cnannels?



At protocol options page you can select all you want, but:
1) if you have number of channels < 8, next time you visit protocol options page you will see 'DSM2 resolution' = 'Steps: 1024';
2) before you can get number of channels > 12 you have to select 'X-Plus channels' = 'On';
3) if you select 'X-Plus channels' = 'On', number of channels > 7, next time you visit protocol options page you will see 'DSM2 resolution' = 'Steps: 2048', you don't need select it manually, it will change automatically;
4) X-Plus channels started from 13 channel (X-Plus 1), 14 channel (X-Plus 5), 15 channel (X-Plus 2), 16 channel (X-Plus 6), and so on.


For DSMX protocol resolution is always 11bit(2048).


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02 Nov 2013 09:34 #15224 by rbe2012
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vlad_vy wrote: I1) if you have number of channels < 8, next time you visit protocol options page you will see 'DSM2 resolution' = 'Steps: 1024';
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3) if you select 'X-Plus channels' = 'On', number of channels > 7, next time you visit protocol options page you will see 'DSM2 resolution' = 'Steps: 2048', you don't need select it manually, it will change automatically;


I think you can force the right values to be shown directly, not only after revisiting the page. I'll have a look later.

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02 Nov 2013 11:03 - 03 Nov 2013 07:28 #15226 by vlad_vy
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RBE, I can provide you changed files, if needed (protocol\dsm2.c, protocol\interface.h, target\devo12\target_defs.h)

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