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25 Feb 2016 13:42 #43610 by dc59
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Hi victzh,

Here comes SF700S top & bottom picture,hope it could help.





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25 Feb 2016 17:37 #43633 by victzh
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Thanks, it helps! It is very accessible design, lots of room to solder.

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17 Mar 2016 06:00 #44695 by victzh
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Check out Builds sub-forum, I put versions for Devo 7E and Devo 10 there.

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18 Mar 2016 09:41 #44780 by cewece
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Thousand thanks, I hope I manage to test it the next weeks. Has anybody tested this and can give feedback?

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18 Mar 2016 11:27 #44785 by Babay
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I tested XK K110 and XK K120 - a great result, everything is working!

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18 Mar 2016 21:05 #44801 by jimqjp
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victzh wrote: Check out Builds sub-forum, I put versions for Devo 7E and Devo 10 there.

Many, many thanks to you, and all others contributed to the project!!!!.

May be I missed, I am not able to find source of the CC2500 module used in TX, can you please post again?

I have a BNF K110, waiting for a working radio.

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18 Mar 2016 21:27 #44804 by victzh
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eBay, Banggood, whatever is better for you. E.g. www.ebay.com/itm/CC2500-PCBA-2-4GHz-Wire...c:g:mt8AAOSwFNZWzB5M or www.ebay.com/itm/New-CC2500-PA-LNA-Romot...6:g:g8gAAOSwHPlWcXME . They both need an antenna, the second one has U.FL on it, the first one requires soldering.

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18 Mar 2016 21:28 #44805 by jimqjp
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Babay wrote: Today I received CC2500 module, and will install it into Devo transmitter. It is unfortunate that Futaba S-FHSS protocol has not yet been implemented. Dear developers, please help to implement the protocol. This would allow to use of high-quality receivers through S.BUS. And many people will be able to tell: Thank you very much!


Can you please share the source and the picture in your TX?

Thank you!!!

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18 Mar 2016 21:36 #44806 by jimqjp
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victzh wrote: eBay, Banggood, whatever is better for you. E.g. www.ebay.com/itm/CC2500-PCBA-2-4GHz-Wire...c:g:mt8AAOSwFNZWzB5M or www.ebay.com/itm/New-CC2500-PA-LNA-Romot...6:g:g8gAAOSwHPlWcXME . They both need an antenna, the second one has U.FL on it, the first one requires soldering.


Thank you victzh! The second one looks better, it has a shield. The first one has more Max TX power (22 vs. 17 dbm).

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18 Mar 2016 21:58 - 18 Mar 2016 22:00 #44807 by Babay
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jimqjp wrote: Can you please share the source and the picture in your TX?

Pictures, diagram and link for source present in my blog . Sorry, the text in Russian. But now, this module is not available.
Last edit: 18 Mar 2016 22:00 by Babay.

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18 Mar 2016 22:57 #44808 by victzh
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Man, but what you write in your blog is not totally the truth. You write: "It appears the developers were not aware about cheaper Futaba alternatives. Only recently thanks to coordinated efforts we pointed developers to cheaper XK Innovations models".

It's just not true. I started hunting XK Alien X250 as soon as it was announced that it would be Futaba S-FHSS compatible, which later appeared not to be true. Only recently actual S-FHSS models with transmitter were available. When I learned of it, not from you, by the way, I immediately bought it with my own money, and also bought Orange S-FHSS receiver and started reversing it. So, I don't like this condescending tone.

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19 Mar 2016 02:40 #44816 by jimqjp
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Babay, thank you, the blog is very helpful.

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09 Apr 2016 22:30 - 10 Apr 2016 03:41 #46232 by jimqjp
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Finally, I received a blue CC2500 module from BG

www.banggood.com/CC2500-PA-LNA-Romote-Wi...F24L01-p-922595.html

BG does not carry another kind, which has a few dbm more power, anymore.

This is a connection picture works for my 7E (step 1).
static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/5...7E-CC2500-Mod_01.jpg

There are more info here for the installation.
www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2462580

Replaced a a7105 module in my 7E with this one, I have not played V911 for a long time anyway. Really wish I could have another spare pin for this one.

Thanks again for great contribution of Victzh and others, the protocol works smoothly.

Here are the channel info may help:

ch1 - AIL
ch2 - ELE
ch3 - THR
ch4 - RUD
chr5 - 6axel / 3D
ch6 - pitch
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09 Apr 2016 22:51 - 10 Apr 2016 03:39 #46234 by jimqjp
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The power setting for CC2500 seems not correct.

I found that my 7E uses 180mA for all CC2500 settings but the very first one (0.3mW). Then I checked the code.

The power is set in this function:

void CC2500_SetPower(int power)
{
const unsigned char patable[8]=
{
0xC5, // -12dbm
0x97, // -10dbm
0x6E, // -8dbm
0x7F, // -6dbm
0xA9, // -4dbm
0xBB, // -2dbm
0xFE, // 0dbm
0xFF // 1.5dbm
};
if (power > 7)
power = 7;
CC2500_WriteReg(CC2500_3E_PATABLE, patable[power]);
}

The power level we need should be
TXPOWER_100uW, -10 dbm
TXPOWER_300uW, -5.22 dbm
TXPOWER_1mW, 0 dbm
TXPOWER_3mW, 4.7 dbm
TXPOWER_10mW, 10 dbm
TXPOWER_30mW, 14.77 dbm
TXPOWER_100mW, 20 dbm
TXPOWER_150mW, 21.76 dbm

The amplifier of the module adds about 20dbm power. So the CC2500 setting should be about -30 dbm to 0dbm.

Based on the datasheet, the power table in this function should be like this:

const unsigned char patable[8]=
{
0x50, // -30dbm TXPOWER_100uW, -10 dbm
0xC0, // -26dbm TXPOWER_300uW, -5.22 dbm
0x46, // -20dbm TXPOWER_1mW, 0 dbm
0x55, // -16dbm TXPOWER_3mW, 4.7 dbm
0x97, // -10dbm TXPOWER_10mW, 10 dbm
0x7F, // -6dbm TXPOWER_30mW, 14.77 dbm
0xFE, // 0dbm TXPOWER_100mW, 20 dbm
0xFF // 1dbm TXPOWER_150mW, 21.76 dbm
};

Now my radio current changes from 120mA to 180mA with the power level settings.
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24 Jun 2016 06:39 - 24 Jun 2016 06:43 #51024 by john
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Can not believe rx sf700s is very simple and component cheap

Can you try to read hex file from stm8 with a Stlink , dc59 ? Good luck
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24 Jun 2016 08:30 - 24 Jun 2016 08:32 #51026 by dc59
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john wrote: Can not believe rx sf700s is very simple and component cheap

Can you try to read hex file from stm8 with a Stlink , dc59 ? Good luck


How to wire my ST-Link to SF700S to read HEX file? :unsure:
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24 Jun 2016 09:46 - 24 Jun 2016 09:47 #51027 by john
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dc59 wrote: Hi victzh,







Have 4 pad soder at bottom pcb , that is Reset , vcc (3v3) gnd , swim . Connect them to Stlink usb and use Stlink unity same Goesbish did
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24 Jun 2016 23:26 - 24 Jun 2016 23:35 #51046 by john
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Woa woa ... I had successful ,I borrowed rx my friend, I read firmware ok from stm8 , maybe lucky because it not protected . ;)
Load firmware again , it work normal :woohoo:
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25 Jun 2016 00:25 - 25 Jun 2016 00:36 #51047 by dc59
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I can't connect my SF700S to ST-Link and now I got problem, my SF700S can't work! :(

Dose pin order from left to right at bottom side Reset , vcc (3v3), gnd , swim correctly?
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25 Jun 2016 01:24 - 25 Jun 2016 01:24 #51048 by john
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dc59 wrote: I can't connect my SF700S to ST-Link and now I got problem, my SF700S can't work! :(

Dose pin order from left to right at bottom side Reset , vcc (3v3), gnd , swim correctly?


Omg , I'm sorry for this :(
Reset , gnd , vcc, Swim . Hope stm8 not burn .
If it bad , I will send you file bin to load firmware . But you have to replace new chip st8
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