Use pitch on aux1 RX601

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09 Jul 2015 15:04 - 09 Jul 2015 15:15 #35278 by raysed
Use pitch on aux1 RX601 was created by raysed
hey I 've read about people using RX601 to helicopters but do not understand how they mix the AUX1 to pitch , please someone who knows .

wonder also how to mix the servos to collaborate, using a devo 7
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09 Jul 2015 20:36 - 10 Jul 2015 08:02 #35288 by Thomas.Heiss
Replied by Thomas.Heiss on topic Use pitch on aux1 RX601
Devo 7? Best is thread is moved to stock firmware sub-forum...

Flybar or FBL?

CCPM 120 mixing active (for flybar)?

Devo 7: www.deviationtx.com/forum/stock-firmware...actory-setting#34626
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10 Jul 2015 07:22 #35298 by raysed
Replied by raysed on topic Use pitch on aux1 RX601
Thanks

But how do I do, do I need a USB cable adapter, or the more it works. is not as good at this part of devo

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10 Jul 2015 08:13 #35299 by Thomas.Heiss
Replied by Thomas.Heiss on topic Use pitch on aux1 RX601
UP02 multi-adapter
UP02 USB interface cable

Have not done it myself...I just use a USB-DSC adapter cable for the Devo10 with DeviationTX.


I just can imagine that reading Walkera heli and Devo7 manuals might give you a go even without the editor or updating...e.g CCPM (flybar) heli mixer.

What heli (gyro, FBL, etc.) btw?

If you have to start from scratch (heli programming, flybar mechanical setup) it might be a very deep learning curve for you - without a local dealer or colleague who can help you on (so many) details...

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10 Jul 2015 08:52 #35301 by raysed
Replied by raysed on topic Use pitch on aux1 RX601
Has no such a usb cable and it sounds unfortunately very complicated. the reason I try to use the receiver is that I tried to keep it to my falcon beginner V2 , la all my money on a complete receiver from helipal rx2618 - V which was wrong after that it was the WK transmitter which I thought was devo , because WK = Walkera Walkera and Devo is vilkert it was not. think because I 'd rather buy an rx2618 d with pitch , double the price of a USB cable but thanks for the information :)

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10 Jul 2015 09:21 #35303 by Thomas.Heiss
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www.art-tech.com/en/productview.asp?id=269

3 cyclic servos including collective pitch


It seems to only have a gyro, because of the 45 degree flybar.
Its not a real 90 degree flybar paddle heli.
So you would normally NOT use FBL receivers like rx2618. The receiver would do the cyclic mixing on FBL, not the TX.

Instead of this falcton CP heli has a normal gyro like a paddle heli.

So you would use the CCPM heli mixing feature in a transmitter and heli type model.

I have no idea how that might fly.
45 degree flybars (single rotor helis with no collective pitch) pretty much over-stabilize so it is a real pain for elevator and auto corrections when you let the elevator/nick stick go.
They pretty much fly like coax helis.

For collective helis you need a constant throttle (because of pitch).


IMHO a real FBL receiver will just get confused with that 45 degree flybar.

I had seen several threads which talk about "90 degree flybar collective heli" with/without FBL systems.
It might work or not (some "stabilization (FBL) systems" even support 90 degree flybars).
Usually you DO not have both (flybar + FBL system).

I even have flybar blades on my 90 degree flybar heli.

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So you might want to get it a try.
Putting the RX601 into.
Choose heli ccpm 120 mix (if it is 120 on that falcon).
Forgetting about FBL receivers...


BTW: Receiver with pitch
I do not understand this.
You can go with FBL receivers which include the 120 CCPM mixing.
There is no such a receiver without pitch IMHO :)

You just need 6 channels including AUX1 for mixing up the three AIL, ELEV and pitch servos.
That includes collective pitch (by the CCPM FBL or TX mixer) too.

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05 Jan 2016 08:31 #41395 by raysed
Replied by raysed on topic Use pitch on aux1 RX601
Hey, after I explored with my devo 10 I found out that I was able to set the program mix, used AILE, ELEV and GEAR in a curve mix. AILE to GEAR so that I have balance on the aileron, AILE and ELEV to pitch, I have everything ready. With this I can now fly my falcon beginner V2 with DEVO.
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