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24 Jan 2015 10:36 #27961 by TomPeer
Replied by TomPeer on topic wltoys wl 931 as 350
You do not have a multi module. So the ; should be in front of the last line.
;Only useful for transmitters with an after-market vibration motor
;enable-haptic=1
;
;switch_types: 3x2, 3x1, 2x2
;extra-switches=
;
[modules]
; there is no need to enable the cyrf6936 module unless
; it is wired to an alternate port. It is Enabled automatically otherwise
; enable-cyrf6936 = B12
; has_pa-cyrf6936 = 0
; enable-a7105 = A13
; has_pa-a7105 = 1
; enable-cc2500 = A14
; has_pa-cc2500 = 1
enable-nrf24l01 = A13
has_pa-nrf24l01 = 1
; enable-multimod = A13

I do not know if your module has PA, if not you should do the same with the "has pa" line.
The last thing you could try is to change A13 to A14.
If this doesn't help something else is wrong.

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24 Jan 2015 14:40 #27962 by Gerhard_H
Replied by Gerhard_H on topic wltoys wl 931 as 350
Thanks Tom for reply !
Suppose PA stands for Power Amplifier, anyway, I don't know.
Tried both ways (enable - disable) but without success.
Port A13 is OK.
So the question is : What else could be wrong?
Lack of antenna (wire) : Printed on the module-board ?
I have attached a picture of the module; notice tne name "NRF 24L01+", does the "+" matter ?
OK I will re-solder the whole stuff . . .
Kind regards
Gerhard
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24 Jan 2015 15:03 #27963 by TomPeer
Replied by TomPeer on topic wltoys wl 931 as 350
I am not shure but i don't think it has a power amplifier. However this module should work, as long as you don't fly to far away.
Good luck soldering.

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24 Jan 2015 16:42 #27969 by Gerhard_H
Replied by Gerhard_H on topic wltoys wl 931 as 350
Completely re-soldered.
No success (at least the "normal" protocols still do work).
Just dld specification for nRF24Lo1+ from
www.nordicsemi.com/kor/Products/2.4GHz-RF/nRF24L01P
which says "nRF24L01+ is drop-in compatible with nRF24L01" - whatever this means.
And it does have a PA.
Here
arduino-info.wikispaces.com/Nrf24L01-2.4GHz-HowTo
I had found a remark that sometimes 3.3V power issues do occur. I'll check out this point.
One last hope : VCC shares power with a red LED I had installed some times ago as a "Power On" indicator. Maybe this consumes too much power. I'll check out this point next.

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24 Jan 2015 21:17 #27978 by Gerhard_H
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Desoldered the LED - no success.
No idea what to do next . . .

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24 Jan 2015 22:38 #27981 by hexfet
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The module in the picture does not have a PA. Set has_pa-nrf24l01 = 0.

Are you sure the pinout on that module is the same as the ones on the website you linked? Looks like probably so, but good to be sure.

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25 Jan 2015 07:08 #27997 by Gerhard_H
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THX hexfet, I'll check it out !

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25 Jan 2015 08:01 - 25 Jan 2015 08:06 #27998 by Gerhard_H
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Checked pinout, definitely OK.
Checked blink signal of heli RX, it's a 5 times blink pattern when DEVO 7E is on.
Tried out original radio. After binding radio and heli I switched off radio. Same blink pattern.
This means that there seems to come no TX signal at all out from from the module.
Since I had received three modules last chance I see is to try another module.

Remark :
Referring to www.hacksmods.com/tag/wltoys/ I had set has_pa-nrf24l01 = 1
Last edit: 25 Jan 2015 08:06 by Gerhard_H.

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25 Jan 2015 09:36 - 25 Jan 2015 09:38 #28005 by TomPeer
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That link shows 2 different modules (Both NRF24L01) The first picture shows a module without PA and internal antenna, Like the one you have. The second one does have pa and need an external antenna.
just to be clear: VCC and CE both go to VDD.
It shouldn't matter but i use the ground pin between VDD and TMS, but that is personal.
Last edit: 25 Jan 2015 09:38 by TomPeer.

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25 Jan 2015 21:02 #28028 by Gerhard_H
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I think I better had asked for the right protokol . . .
Had used Hisky the whole time. Now went to KN and it binds ! :oops: :woohoo:
Now I have to look for a fitting model.ini.

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25 Jan 2015 21:25 #28030 by aMax
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I assume if your module is really this one...without PA
www.deviationtx.com/media/kunena/attachm.../807/51OyHRKDHsL.jpg

...you will not have much range. Pay attention.

Devo7e, TaranisQ X7, R9M , 4in1 MM, Futaba FC18plusV3.2 & DFT/FLD-02

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26 Jan 2015 05:50 #28034 by Gerhard_H
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Exactly this one . . .
Anyway, thx for the warning !
Since I'll use it only for small helis like this WLToy AS350 I hope it doesn't matter.

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26 Jan 2015 17:03 #28044 by mwm
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Gerhard_H wrote: Exactly this one . . .
Anyway, thx for the warning !
Since I'll use it only for small helis like this WLToy AS350 I hope it doesn't matter.


Should be fine. The V911 A7105 module was really popular because they came in the RTF Tx for the V911, and it has no PA. I ordered an A7105 & NRF24L01 for my Devo6S with no PA and the on-board antenna, excpeting to use them for indoor heli's and quads.

But always range test!

Do not ask me questions via PM. Ask in the forums, where I'll answer if I can.

My remotely piloted vehicle ("drone") is a yacht.

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27 Jan 2015 22:10 #28125 by Gerhard_H
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My Devo7E now binds the AS350 but neither main nor tail rotor (motor) works, I think I have to make the switch mod with the radio.
Since I had had ordered 3 modules I gave on my DEVO 10 and it did bind instantly, also everything is running fine. But have had no time to check out whether 3axis-6axis switching works.

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01 Feb 2015 06:01 - 01 Feb 2015 06:05 #28313 by Gerhard_H
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@TomPeer

TomPeer wrote: I have the v977 and the v931. They both fly with the same transmitter. In deviation i use the same ini for both heli's. They fly great. specialy the v931.


Due to my throttle_troubles . . .
Your v931.ini would be great help !
TIA
Gerhard
Last edit: 01 Feb 2015 06:05 by Gerhard_H.

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01 Feb 2015 11:06 - 01 Feb 2015 11:08 #28318 by Gerhard_H
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Just downloaded a v977.ini from the Devo7E models corner (#28312) and it seems to work.
At least main and tail motor works OK.
I now have to study the ini, still a mystery for me . . .
Last edit: 01 Feb 2015 11:08 by Gerhard_H.

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01 Feb 2015 11:13 #28321 by TomPeer
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File Attachment:

File Name: model9.ini
File Size:4 KB


I got this one from the topic: New WL Toys Protocol V977. I am not shure from whom exactly (i think it was dc59) but thank those guys.
I use this ini on devo 8s and Devo 10.
I changed a view settings to my personal preference.
Works great for me.
Rud dr1 = throttle hold
Gear 0 = 3 axis gyro
Gear 1 = 6 axis gyro
mix = Ail + ele 60% 80% 100%
Fmod1 = 3D
ail dr = stable mode (i think)

hope it works
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01 Feb 2015 14:32 #28325 by Gerhard_H
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@TomPeer
THX alot !

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21 May 2015 17:55 #32835 by 3D Ambitions
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TomPeer wrote:

File Attachment:

File Name: model9.ini
File Size:4 KB


I got this one from the topic: New WL Toys Protocol V977. I am not shure from whom exactly (i think it was dc59) but thank those guys.
I use this ini on devo 8s and Devo 10.
I changed a view settings to my personal preference.
Works great for me.
Rud dr1 = throttle hold
Gear 0 = 3 axis gyro
Gear 1 = 6 axis gyro
mix = Ail + ele 60% 80% 100%
Fmod1 = 3D
ail dr = stable mode (i think)

hope it works


thsnk you very much just used this on my 8s and it works great on the v977 best .ini so far for v931 and v977 :lol:

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