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29 May 2015 17:42 - 29 May 2015 17:43 #33191 by SilbernerSurfer
Channel 1 should -100? was created by SilbernerSurfer
Hello together,

i have flashed my white Devo 10 with the version 4.0.1!

Every time when i power it on it shows " channel 1=0%; should=-100%".

It is my elevator stick. You can see it in the pic.

Is something wrong?

Best regards

Uwe
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29 May 2015 18:12 #33194 by FDR
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This is a safety warning, that your throttle channel is not at it's minimum, which is -100%.
You are probably in the wrong mode,, like Mode1 instead of Mode2.
Close the dialog, and check the mode value in the tx settings...

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29 May 2015 18:44 #33198 by aperseghin
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FDR wrote: This is a safety warning, that your throttle channel is not at it's minimum, which is -100%.
You are probably in the wrong mode,, like Mode1 instead of Mode2.
Close the dialog, and check the mode value in the tx settings...


NO, this happens when you dont have the throttle hold turned on and your model setup keeps the throttle at 100% (like 6 channel 3d setup)
just flip your throttle hold switch.

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29 May 2015 18:53 #33199 by FDR
Replied by FDR on topic Channel 1 should -100?
It is unlikely that in idle up mode his throttle value is exactly the middle value.
Furthermore if he has just installed deviation, then the default model config is a simple 4ch one...

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29 May 2015 20:00 #33206 by mwm
Replied by mwm on topic Channel 1 should -100?
This warning is coming from the model Safety settings, which aren't directly editable. The default setting is that the throttle output channel should be at -100, where the throttle channel setting is detected automatically. This is trying to warn you that if it goes ahead and connects, a propeller could start spinning. Turning on throttle hold, or lowering the stick in non-3d 'copter modes, or switching out of 3d mode, can all make this go away. You can also just hit Enter to connect to your model.

There have been reports (but no open issue) of a bug that causes it to get the wrong channel for throttle output. There are indications that being in the wrong mode can trigger this bug, but I don't see how. I haven't been able to recreate this. Could you please open an issue on the bug tracker in the menu to your left for this? State the version number, and upload both tx.ini and the model.ini file that's causing the problem.

And if that's what you are seeing, here's the way to fix the problem as opposed to the symptoms:
  1. Plug your Tx back into your computer.
  2. Boot it in USB mode by powering on while holding down the Enter key.
  3. Edit the file models/model1.ini (or whatever the current model number is) on that disk.
  4. Find the [Safety] section.
  5. There should be one line that says Auto=Min.
  6. Change the Auto to the throttle channel for that model, in the format Ch#. Typical is Ch3.
  7. Eject the disk, and power cycle the Tx.

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30 May 2015 05:13 #33228 by SilbernerSurfer
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OK, i will open a case at bug tracker.

Which editor should i use? In the past as far as i remember there was a suggestion for a editor. Win 8.1

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30 May 2015 05:28 #33230 by SilbernerSurfer
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I cant get into mantis bug tracker. Always when i click on login at mantis bug tracker site i was directed to log in at deviationtx.com.
After logging in same problem.

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30 May 2015 05:59 #33231 by SilbernerSurfer
Replied by SilbernerSurfer on topic Channel 1 should -100?
I try it here for first infos. Hope this helps. I will post it at mantis too when i get access. Who can i ask for the access issue?

White Devo 10 Mode 2
Version: devo10-4.0.1
Issue exists since the first power on of the Tx after upgrading firmware.
It was the first time i was using Deviaton software with this TX.
The Tx i have bought used on eBay.
Before upgrading to 4.0.1 i have upgraded the Walkera software for 100mW. www.derspielstein.com/shop_content.php/c...ra-Devention-Upgrade
I have marked it at the screenshot.
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30 May 2015 06:33 - 30 May 2015 06:33 #33233 by SilbernerSurfer
Replied by SilbernerSurfer on topic Channel 1 should -100?
Opend the nodel file with Notepad++
changed safety to ch3
Now i cant power on my devo 10 again.
:woohoo:
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30 May 2015 06:38 #33234 by SilbernerSurfer
Replied by SilbernerSurfer on topic Channel 1 should -100?
It works now. dont know what it was. After disconnecting from the USB cable the Tx doesnt work anymore.

5mins later it works now. No more warnig for channel 1 (elev)

Thanks mwm for your help!

I will post the issue as soon as you can give access to mantis! Or did i somethimg wrong with the log in?

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30 May 2015 12:28 #33236 by PhracturedBlue
Replied by PhracturedBlue on topic Channel 1 should -100?
Your deviation login should give you access to mantis as well. you should never see a login page at the mantis db. do you have cookies disabled? I haven't heard this issue before. can you show a screenshot of the mantis login page?

As for your white Tx, if it wasn't able to turn on, you may have a faulty power switch. It is somewhat common on Devo 8/10 models. If the issue happens again, you may want to cnsider replacing the switch, or tightening the tabs on the existing swutch. You can also try pushing down on the power switch which will often getthe connection needed to turn the tx on/off

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30 May 2015 16:39 - 30 May 2015 16:42 #33246 by SilbernerSurfer
Replied by SilbernerSurfer on topic Channel 1 should -100?

PhracturedBlue wrote: Your deviation login should give you access to mantis as well. you should never see a login page at the mantis db. do you have cookies disabled? I haven't heard this issue before. can you show a screenshot of the mantis login page?

As for your white Tx, if it wasn't able to turn on, you may have a faulty power switch. It is somewhat common on Devo 8/10 models. If the issue happens again, you may want to cnsider replacing the switch, or tightening the tabs on the existing swutch. You can also try pushing down on the power switch which will often getthe connection needed to turn the tx on/off


My above described problem exists further.

I have tried to bind with an R615 orange 6ch Rx.

My elevator reacts to my left Throttle stick. My throttle reacts to my right elevator Stick. Mode 2.
Rudder reacts to my left stick as it should in mode 2
and ailerons are working on my right stick as they should.
Channel monitor says:
channel 1: elev
channel 2: ail
channel 3: throttle
channel 4: rud
Model settings protocol is Dsm2 for the orange R615 Rx.
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30 May 2015 16:47 #33249 by SilbernerSurfer
Replied by SilbernerSurfer on topic Channel 1 should -100?
Sorry, it works. Its a long time since i have used Deviation and forgottn the channels in the mixer.

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30 May 2015 19:25 #33256 by SilbernerSurfer
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After clicking on the bug tracker i get this:


After clicking on login at mantis i get this:


After clicking on login at DeviationTX i get this:

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30 May 2015 19:33 #33260 by PhracturedBlue
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does it work if you press the 'Remember Me' button? I will see what I can figure out, it certainly should not do that.

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30 May 2015 19:34 #33261 by SilbernerSurfer
Replied by SilbernerSurfer on topic Channel 1 should -100?

PhracturedBlue wrote: does it work if you press the 'Remember Me' button? I will see what I can figure out, it certainly should not do that.

I will try, mom
cookies are enabled.

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30 May 2015 19:38 #33262 by SilbernerSurfer
Replied by SilbernerSurfer on topic Channel 1 should -100?
Yes, it works now with the remember me button.
Also i get no safety warning with my devo 10. The problem was that i have forgotten to set the channels right in the mixer.
Thanks PhracturedBlue, thanks FDR and mwm.
Sorry for this. i should have figured it out by myself.

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31 May 2015 17:57 #33287 by yogi b
Replied by yogi b on topic Channel 1 should -100?
newbie here
glad you got it

i seem to have that problem too
setting up the devo 7e to run anylink2
on a dromida ominus

for my blade models this seems to work



safetysw=Virt1
failsafe=-100
safetyval=-100
template=simple
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch1

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31 May 2015 18:51 #33290 by mwm
Replied by mwm on topic Channel 1 should -100?

yogi b wrote: safetysw=Virt1
failsafe=-100
safetyval=-100
template=simple
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch1


This is the safety switch feature, which is a per-channel feature allowing you to force a channel output to a specific value with a switch, ignoring all the programming. The safety feature discussed above is a per-model feature, allowing you to specify for each channel a value for which it's safe to connect to the model. The former is for things like throttle hold, but gets used for things like Panic switches as well. The latter is to warn you about channel values that could cause the model to do something unsafe - like spin the props or take off - if you connected to it with them set that way.

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05 Jun 2015 01:39 - 05 Jun 2015 02:06 #33451 by dat
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i check my all model , and yes,some model got same problem
so , i do like MWM what he said , solve the problem now , well done MWM , thanks !

and i found the problem always happen from when put in sample templet with devo and turn to choice dsm2 or
templet dsm2 turn to devo !
i think , maybe the program is not smart enough and turn everymath right automaticly! ;)
when user used the usefful function ,must modify the model.ini and do like MWM said by hand
or made 2 type templet with diffrence procol by self and save! :P
for example , => delta devo type and delta dsm2 type and save , when change diffrence kind RX for simple used in need !

oh, forgot memtion one little thing , change the layout together and will found everything work great when done this !

good job MWM , thanks again ! :cheer:
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