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26 Jan 2014 17:22 #19181
by PhracturedBlue
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Due to popular demand, I've implemented channel reordering when switching protocols. We've tried this before without great success, but I'm committed to making it work this time. But it can only be done with your help. I've updated the nightlies with the latest code changes. I now need to know what doesn't work as expected. this only impacts the advanced mixer. There is no huge rush, as there are no plans for the next Deviation release at this time, but this feature will only be as good as the testing it gets.
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26 Jan 2014 18:03 - 26 Jan 2014 18:06 #19185
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from a quick test on my 7e, in mode2, with heli as the model type, and only checking the output via the channel monitor screen
dsm and dsmx look correct, with their mappings being changed to the correct positions.
devo is fine, again the mappings being changed to the correct positions.
hisky, there is a problem with hisky, when choosing hisky the channel mapping goes
1 ailerons (right stick l/r)
2 no response at all
3 elevator (right stick u/d)
4 rudder (left stick l/r)
6 responds to pitch/throttle (left stick u/d)
hubsan, again a problem,
1 no response at all
2 ailerons
3 elevator
4 rudder
6 throttle/pitch
i haven't checked other protocols as i'm not 100% on what their mappings should be
dsm and dsmx look correct, with their mappings being changed to the correct positions.
devo is fine, again the mappings being changed to the correct positions.
hisky, there is a problem with hisky, when choosing hisky the channel mapping goes
1 ailerons (right stick l/r)
2 no response at all
3 elevator (right stick u/d)
4 rudder (left stick l/r)
6 responds to pitch/throttle (left stick u/d)
hubsan, again a problem,
1 no response at all
2 ailerons
3 elevator
4 rudder
6 throttle/pitch
i haven't checked other protocols as i'm not 100% on what their mappings should be
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26 Jan 2014 18:24 #19189
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I'd be happy to test, if you want.
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26 Jan 2014 18:54 - 26 Jan 2014 18:55 #19190
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pb has said many times that all testing is gladly recieved 
, if it's a 7e you have then you can install the build from this post here >>
www.deviationtx.com/forum/builds/2661-7e...timer-weekly-updates
if not you can wait foe the nightly build for tonight and install that. or if you know how to compile from source you can head over to pb's repo and build it yourself >> bitbucket.org/PhracturedBlue/deviation
, if it's a 7e you have then you can install the build from this post here >>
www.deviationtx.com/forum/builds/2661-7e...timer-weekly-updates
if not you can wait foe the nightly build for tonight and install that. or if you know how to compile from source you can head over to pb's repo and build it yourself >> bitbucket.org/PhracturedBlue/deviation
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26 Jan 2014 19:04 #19192
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I regenerated the nightlies already for all Tx.
If you find issues, the easiest thing to do is post a working model and one that was converted that doesn't work. I can then compare and see what isn't mapping as expected.
If you find issues, the easiest thing to do is post a working model and one that was converted that doesn't work. I can then compare and see what isn't mapping as expected.
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27 Jan 2014 01:57 #19251
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I was able to test after Harry straightened out my installation method.
I tested a plane model in DSM2. Everything worked as expected re. modes and channels.
I checked that the Tx warned of THR stick above -100 on startup, which it did correctly.
One minor detail didn't work as it had in the past -- the throttle % on the main display was set to CH3 so showed elevator movement instead of throttle.
This is reflected in a setting in the model.ini. Changing that to CH1 restored the throttle % display.
I'll try to test dual rates and expo, etc in the mixer when I can.
It looks good so far!
I tested a plane model in DSM2. Everything worked as expected re. modes and channels.
I checked that the Tx warned of THR stick above -100 on startup, which it did correctly.
One minor detail didn't work as it had in the past -- the throttle % on the main display was set to CH3 so showed elevator movement instead of throttle.
This is reflected in a setting in the model.ini. Changing that to CH1 restored the throttle % display.
I'll try to test dual rates and expo, etc in the mixer when I can.
It looks good so far!
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27 Jan 2014 06:16 #19259
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Should we have something like "THR=ch3" / "THR=ch1" in the main layout and timer page? The channel could change with the protocol, but the value displayed would be the one intended to see.
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27 Jan 2014 06:58 #19260
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Yep, this would be like the feature I asked for, which I called aliases...
www.deviationtx.com/forum/7-development/...lease-3-1-0?start=80
www.deviationtx.com/forum/7-development/...lease-3-1-0?start=80
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27 Jan 2014 09:32 #19263
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If there were a vote for aliases +1 from me
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27 Jan 2014 14:46 #19272
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why does it need to be so complicated? I can just remap the display at the same time I remap the channels. I think that would be sufficient. Or am I missing something?
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27 Jan 2014 14:58 #19274
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Display and timer trigger and complex mixer inputs...
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27 Jan 2014 15:14 #19276
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the mixers are the only tricky ones to deal with I think. In all other cases, there is a single source, and it is either connected to an input or output. In the case of an output you remap it. But you are right that there are other variables in the model structure to deal with.
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27 Jan 2014 15:35 #19277
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To name a few places:
- mixer sources (both real and virtual);
- mixer switches (both real and virtual);
- timer switches;
- timer reset switches;
- timer proportional values;
- main page box sources;
- main page bar sources;
- datalog channels.
Did I forget some?
- mixer sources (both real and virtual);
- mixer switches (both real and virtual);
- timer switches;
- timer reset switches;
- timer proportional values;
- main page box sources;
- main page bar sources;
- datalog channels.
Did I forget some?
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27 Jan 2014 15:42 #19279
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surely when setting up a model choosing the model type, protocol and GUI style is the first thing you do, so surely none of those would be set up?
as I don't think changing protocols mid life of a model is a very common use case?
as I don't think changing protocols mid life of a model is a very common use case?
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27 Jan 2014 15:47 #19280
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Not very common, but it happens. I swaped a skyartec board into a super cp that caused a protocol switch mid life.
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27 Jan 2014 16:04 #19281
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yeah true enough, but how many of these corner use cases should be dealt with automatically?
personally I think if the channel mapping works when done at initial model setup that should be a good enough target, but with my current c/c++ coding skills I'm not quite up to submitting code yet, so my opionion should be taken with that in mind lol
personally I think if the channel mapping works when done at initial model setup that should be a good enough target, but with my current c/c++ coding skills I'm not quite up to submitting code yet, so my opionion should be taken with that in mind lol
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27 Jan 2014 16:07 - 27 Jan 2014 16:09 #19282
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...and you can replace a standard receiver anytime with an other maker's one, so you might need to switch protocols too...
EDIT: Actually I found myself in this situation, because I want to replace one DEVO rx of mine with an OrangeRX...
EDIT: Actually I found myself in this situation, because I want to replace one DEVO rx of mine with an OrangeRX...
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27 Jan 2014 16:48 #19284
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Imagine copying a model's setup for another heli (to have a well known start position) and change the protocol afterwards (like using a Devo V100d08 config for a Blade mCP-X). You might have to address all points listed by FDR above.
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27 Jan 2014 17:01 #19286
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you missed the safety switches.
I'll need to look at the mixer mapping again, but getting that to work in a predictable way was tricky the 1st time. I'm hoping I don't need to muck with it too much.
The others are all straight forward.
I'll need to look at the mixer mapping again, but getting that to work in a predictable way was tricky the 1st time. I'm hoping I don't need to muck with it too much.
The others are all straight forward.
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27 Jan 2014 17:16 #19288
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Oh, yes, the safety! 
I just went throw the GUI...
I just went throw the GUI...
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