New deviation logo
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- domcars0
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- rbe2012
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But when I see this (and imagine a non-red backlight, maybe white), I think about using my dremel.
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Basically, whenever you sport a Deviation logo you are acting as an ambassador to our project. It is the same reason I didn't want suvsuv using 'devil' in his devo10 port.
So associating Deviation with recreational drugs (regardless if they are legal in your country) is not something I want to see. If you want to, don't call it 'Deviation'
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But principally the use of the deViation logo from the forum or the one presented somewhere (was it from joshua?) or creating our own is ok for you as long as we respect the law and your rules? I would not have any problem to let you check it before using it...
I really would like to replace the devention logo on my tx to demonstrate the power of opensource (and a little bit to be obviously different).
So if yes: has somebody taken out the original and can tell me how to do?
EDIT: you told it - it's open source and so we can modify it. I think we were only joking a bit around and are serious enough not to affect the reputation of deViation, open source or you.
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As I said above. When you show off Deviation to others, you are acting as an ambassador to our project whether you mean to or not. You can of course work for or against us, and I have no say in the matter, but I think we're all here to help others, and in doing so, I like to think you'll portray us in the most positive light.
You guys can create a thread in the 'Custom Skins' section for modified logos. I reserve the right to remove anything I think portrays the project in a negative light, but I think having such a thread might be helpful for others. I was thinking of 3d-printing a logo for my 12s case myself.
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- FDR
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I think it is quite obvious now, that it's different...
I will make a proper one. I've already started it, but forgot the file at work, so I'll do it on monday...
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Using the same font / letter form as Walkera does could imply a (marketing) connection between deviation and devention which is surely not wanted. At least here in Germany we have heard of judicial struggles because those things could be too lookalike (esp. when used in the same market segment, even if one product is not commercial).
Shall we use another font and therefor a complete different logo?
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The connection between Devo and deViation is 'by nature'.
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- FDR
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We do not compete with Walkera, but acually support them.
However some differentiation is proper, that's why I made the color change.
I've found the font they based on, so I can make a nice new large logo...
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FDR wrote: I agree with domcars0.
We do not compete with Walkera, but acually support them.
With the Logo as it is now, the Deviation "brand" is used at the mercy of Walkera, whether we "compete" with them or not, is commercial or not, etc, etc.
Deviation is used in the same class of goods (28), which means Walkera can take action by 1) demanding the that the Deviation logo is not used or must changed, and 2) take legal action to enforce their rights if there is non-compliance.
There is however a principle (it seems to be applied in most countries) which requires Walkera to act to protect their rights within a reasonable period after they first became aware of the infringement. The means they cannot allow/condone the Deviation Logo / Project, even in silence, and then later insist the Logo must be changed. This period would normally be within 12 months, however to claim that defence if/or when they change their minds, you’ll need lots of money and court time.
Devention™ Status (as at 18 Dec 2012)
- Walkera has registered Devention as trademark (picture/image/look) and it seems also as a word mark
- It is registered in the USA and possibly in other countries in Class 28 (Games etc)
- Colour was not claimed as core part of the logo
- It was first used in 2011 and is status (in the USA) is Published for Opposition 18 Dec 2012
Point 3 is interesting as it implies they "own" all the colours and changing Deviation's colours will not make any difference to the legal position.
Point 4 means they have priority, as Deviation was first used publicly only a year later in 2012.
Note/Disclaimer:
I have a bit of background on trademarks and brands as I have been handling all our company's worldwide trademark registrations and coordinated our defense when somebody stepped on our rights, however I am not a lawyer, this is my personal non-expert opinion, expressed for information only.
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(I had personnaly such an issue with one of my spamgourmet emails address and my bank, I've just changed the email, nothing else)
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domcars0 wrote: If Walkera take action against deViation about the logo, I think that deViation can change his logo .. what's a matter? Is deViation looking for customers? I don't think so...
(I had personnaly such an issue with one of my spamgourmet emails address and my bank, I've just changed it, nothing else)
Domcars is of course 100% right, the question is why do we want the logo to resemble Devention's in the first place?
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RandMental wrote:
domcars0 wrote: If Walkera take action against deViation about the logo, I think that deViation can change his logo .. what's a matter? Is deViation looking for customers? I don't think so...
(I had personnaly such an issue with one of my spamgourmet emails address and my bank, I've just changed it, nothing else)
Domcars is of course 100% right, the question is why do we want the logo to resemble Devention's in the first place?
...because it runs on devention transmitters?
I understand what you mean, and it's clear that they could take steps against, but that would be against their own interest...
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Of course, that's why I love it the way it is.. It's the perfect name for the project, but maybe it's just a little too perfect... (and I won't even bring up the standard mixer looking like walkera stock firmware.... )
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