Nano QX from Horizon

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25 Sep 2013 22:06 #14058 by ChrisLevo
Replied by ChrisLevo on topic Nano QX from Horizon
G'day,

I'm a real newbie, as well, and only got my Devo 6S bound to my nQX yesterday.

I used the tutorial at
to load the Deviation firmware, noting that you use the Devo 8 FS file for the file system, as there is not a Devo 6S file.

I used the same chap's tutorial at
and loaded the Daryoon model10.ini file, and my nano works fine.

I have dual rates, but can't see how to switch from Safe mode to Agility mode, but someone here will read this and tell me :)

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26 Sep 2013 03:36 - 26 Sep 2013 04:22 #14064 by Oliverpool
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Thanks for the detailed response!

So you used the Deviation V2 instead of V3? (I see in your earlier mail that you installed V3) And you used the file system for the Devo10 instead of the Devo 6? Am not sure if the Devo 6 file system is similar to our Devo 6s?
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26 Sep 2013 04:06 - 26 Sep 2013 04:09 #14065 by vlad_vy
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Daryoon's Outside Nano QX funfly settings for the Devo7e with DeviationX.

Hold switch to toggle between between Stability and Agility. (toggle on back to off to switch to Agility. To switch back, toggle on back to off)

Or, see what switch is used for Ch6.
Last edit: 26 Sep 2013 04:09 by vlad_vy.

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26 Sep 2013 04:13 #14066 by FDR
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Oliverpool wrote: Thanks for the detailed respond!

So you used the Deviation V2 instead of V3? (I see in your earlier mail that you installed V3) And you used the file system for the Devo10 instead of the Devo 6? Am not sure if the Devo 6 file system is similar to our Devo 6s?


DEVO 6/6S/8/8S share the same DEVO 8 filesystem...

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26 Sep 2013 04:23 #14067 by Oliverpool
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Great! Thanks! I was doing a search and reading everything I could find on 6S here but did not see anything that says this!. Will test it out later today.,

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26 Sep 2013 04:43 #14068 by ChrisLevo
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Oliverpool wrote: So you used the Deviation V2 instead of V3?


Sorry to confuse you, but the chap who made the video installed V2, but I installed V3.

I read elsewhere about using the Devo 8 FS, and it's all good.

Chris

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27 Sep 2013 22:02 #14102 by ChrisLevo
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ChrisLevo wrote:
I have dual rates, but can't see how to switch from Safe mode to Agility mode, but someone here will read this and tell me :)


I'm using his file on my Devo6S, and have replicated it for my mSR, mSRX, mCX2 and 120SR.

However, I can't see how to switch to Agile mode on the nQX.

The file is:
"name=Nano QX
mixermode=Advanced
icon=MQX_B.BMP
[radio]
protocol=DSMX
num_channels=6
tx_power=100mW

[protocol_opts]
Telemetry=On

[channel1]
template=complex
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch1
usetrim=0
curvetype=5point
points=-100,-60,0,60,100

[channel2]
template=expo_dr
[mixer]
src=AIL
dest=Ch2
scalar=80
curvetype=expo
points=-20,-20
[mixer]
src=AIL
dest=Ch2
switch=FMODE1
curvetype=expo
points=0,0

[channel3]
template=expo_dr
[mixer]
src=ELE
dest=Ch3
scalar=80
curvetype=expo
points=-20,-20
[mixer]
src=ELE
dest=Ch3
switch=FMODE1
curvetype=expo
points=0,0

[channel4]
template=expo_dr
[mixer]
src=RUD
dest=Ch4
curvetype=expo
points=-15,-15
[mixer]
src=RUD
dest=Ch4
switch=FMODE1
curvetype=expo
points=-15,-15

[channel6]
speed=47
template=complex
[mixer]
src=Virt1
dest=Ch6
curvetype=min/max

[virtchan1]
template=simple
[virtchan2]
template=simple
[mixer]
src=Virt2
dest=Virt2
usetrim=0
curvetype=min/max

[trim1]
src=LEFT_V
pos=TRIMLV+
neg=TRIMLV-
[trim2]
src=RIGHT_V
pos=TRIMRV+
neg=TRIMRV-
[trim3]
src=LEFT_H
pos=TRIMLH+
neg=TRIMLH-
[trim4]
src=RIGHT_H
pos=TRIMRH+
neg=TRIMRH-
[swash]
type=140
[timer1]
type=countdown
src=THR
time=330
[timer2]
src=THR
[timer4]
src=THR
[safety]
Ch1=min
[gui-qvga]
trim=4in
barsize=half
box1=Ch1
box2=Timer1
box3=Timer2
bar1=Ch1
bar2=Ch2
bar3=Ch3
bar4=Ch4
quickpage1=Model setup
quickpage2=Mixer"

All help appreciated - Chris

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27 Sep 2013 22:10 #14103 by jdowdle
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Could anyone tell me how to bind fixed id?
I have a devo8 with a config file I downloaded, I had to erase the fixed id which was in the file to get the new nano to bind.

All works fine, but I cannot get it to accept a fixed id which I enter.

How many numbers should I enter?

Exactly what is the procedure to go from the auto-bind to fixed id? Say I am up and running in a non-fixed bind. Normally I hit the None button, and a fixed id is randomly assigned. Mine comes up with a blank, and when I enter a six digit number, and bind, the nano does not accept the bind.

thanks Jim

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28 Sep 2013 06:32 #14108 by vlad_vy
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For DSM2/DSMX you need perform new bind with Fixed ID. Power on NanoQX, wait flashing, then power on Tx, enter Fixed ID (any number, I use 6 digit numbers), press 'Bind'.

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02 Oct 2013 04:06 - 02 Oct 2013 04:12 #14203 by vlad_vy
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Daryoon model10.ini file, see the difference

[channel6]
speed=47
template=complex
[mixer]
src=Virt1
dest=Ch6
curvetype=min/max
[mixer]
src=Virt2
dest=Ch6
usetrim=0
curvetype=min/max

[virtchan1]
template=simple
[mixer]
src=HOLD1
dest=Virt1
curvetype=min/max

[virtchan2]
template=simple
[mixer]
src=HOLD1
dest=Virt2
curvetype=min/max

As i can see from Daryoon model10.ini file, 'HOLD' switch used for changing from Safe mode to Agility mode. If you haven't 'HOLD' switch, you can use any other, simply change 'src=HOLD1' to any suitable switch ('src=XXXX1'), with GUI or directly at .ini file.
Last edit: 02 Oct 2013 04:12 by vlad_vy.

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02 Oct 2013 05:25 #14204 by ChrisLevo
Replied by ChrisLevo on topic Nano QX from Horizon
Thanks very much - really appreciated.

I added the additional Virtual Channel, assigned to D/R in the GUI, and it's all now great.

Thanks to Daryoon and you :cheer:

Chris

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02 Nov 2013 16:26 - 02 Nov 2013 17:40 #15254 by RoyM
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Hi all,

I am a newbie to the deviation world and am about to buy a blade nano qx. I currently have a Walkera Super CP and Devo 7E and am looking for something that is more suitable for indoor flying for someone unexperienced as me...

I was wondering whether anyone could post a final .ini file for the nano qx quadcopter suitable for the Devo 7E transmitter.

Thank you very much and sorry for the newbie question,

Roy
Last edit: 02 Nov 2013 17:40 by RoyM.

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18 Dec 2013 13:45 #16774 by eaman
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RoyM wrote: I was wondering whether anyone could post a final .ini file for the nano qx quadcopter suitable for the Devo 7E transmitter.


I second that. I'm just reading the manual in order to install devention firmware on my brand new 7e and a "polished" config file for 7e would be much appreciated.

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01 Jan 2014 20:55 - 01 Jan 2014 21:03 #17683 by henkerhaus
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vlad_vy wrote: For DSM2/DSMX you need perform new bind with Fixed ID. Power on NanoQX, wait flashing, then power on Tx, enter Fixed ID (any number, I use 6 digit numbers), press 'Bind'.


I have the parameter "fixed_id=" set to nothing in my model.ini file. (Per the Deviation v4.0.0 user manual, page 53, setting the fixed ID to none uses a transmitter specific ID. See below)

name=Nano QX
mixermode=Advanced
icon=NanoQX.bmp
type=plane
[radio]
protocol=DSMX
num_channels=7
fixed_id=
tx_power=10mW

I always turn on my transmitter first (as per the NanoQX user manual, page 8 ), and wait for Deviation to finish booting.

I then select the model config button (which goes to the "Mixer" page), and page one screen to the right to the "Model Setup" page.

I then install and plug in the flight battery in the Nano QX, and quickly set the model on a level surface (The model displays a slow flashing red light, which means the model isn't bound to the transmitter)

I then select the <Bind> button (bottom right corner) to manually bind the model.
After a few seconds, the model displays a solid blue light, indicating that the model is now bound to the transmitter, and in stability mode.
Last edit: 01 Jan 2014 21:03 by henkerhaus. Reason: Got an unwanted emoticon for the number 8

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01 Jan 2014 22:22 - 02 Jan 2014 01:19 #17686 by henkerhaus
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fabien wrote: Hello,

I have a config file for the Nano QX with some function that I think should interest some people.

functions:

  • Sticky throttle cut : disable the throttle until you put the stick down (using Virt1, and RUDD D/R as switch))
  • No need to turn on then turn off the switch to change between the agility and the stability mode (using Virt2)
  • FMOD0: stability mode
  • FMOD1: Agility mode/ 70% dual rate
  • FMOD2: Agility mode/ 100% dual rate
  • If you start the radio on FMOD1 or FMOD2, you need to put the switch on FMOD0 first to be able to pass in Agility mode (using Virt2 and Virt3)

On the Zip file you can find the modelico and the toggle.bmp that I use on my radio. I made the config on a Devo8 with DeviationTX 3.0


@Fabien / Daryoon / Other contributors
Thank you for the model.ini file. Your file made my decision to get a Nano QX, which is great little quad (kudos to Blade) easy.

As much as I appreciate getting a pre-configured model file, that get's me up and flying right out of the box, I also like to understand HOW it works, so I can know how to modify it if needed. (As the saying goes... You can GIVE a man a fish, or you can TEACH a man to fish, which is better)

First, could someone explain the logic behind how the combination of virtual channels and various mixers work, in order to achieve the switching from stability mode to agility mode?

One thing I'd like to change is to reverse the Rudder D/R switch so Position 0 is the active throttle position, and Position 1 is the Throttle Hold position (which is how I've always used configured Rudder D/R for Throttle Hold)

It might also be useful if someone could add a few comments to the model.ini file.

Second, I don't follow how the 70% and 100% D/R are applied using the Flight mode switch.
(In the model.ini file, I see channels 2 (AIL) and 3 (ELE) have no explicit FMODE0 definition, FMODE1 has a "scalar=50" parameter, and FMODE2 has no explicit scalar definition, which I assume implies it is 100%. i don't follow how/where/what the D/R setting is for stability mode.

Lastly, when the flight battery gets low, the motors just suddenly stop, and the model falls to the ground, with the red light flashing, which indicates low battery. Per page 7 of the Nano QX user manual, "Before the battery charge decreases too much, LVC becomes active. Power to the motors decrease and the LED on the 4-in-1 control unit blinks, showing some battery power is reserved for flight control and safe landing." Is it possible to display/sound an alarm when LVC on the model becomes active? I know the model does have the timer set to 360 (sec, = 6 minutes, and that the typical flight time to power failure is around 6.5 minutes)

Attached is my Model icon, which matches my Devo8s color scheme.
Attachments:
Last edit: 02 Jan 2014 01:19 by henkerhaus. Reason: Fixed Typo

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20 Jan 2014 05:56 - 20 Jan 2014 05:58 #18757 by henkerhaus
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henkerhaus wrote: One thing I'd like to change is to reverse the Rudder D/R switch so Position 0 is the active throttle position, and Position 1 is the Throttle Hold position (which is how I've always used configured Rudder D/R for Throttle Hold)


I finally figured out how to reverse the throttle hold switch... :)

On the Mixer menu, select the <Complex> Button for the Virt1 Channel.
Page to the 3rd Mixer (the throttle hold input, and change the "Switch" Spin Box setting to "RUD DR1" instead of "RUD DR0".
Last edit: 20 Jan 2014 05:58 by henkerhaus. Reason: Fixed Typo

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20 Jan 2014 06:24 #18758 by rbe2012
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...or press "Rudd DR0" so the value is inverted to "!Rudd DR0" what gives yo more flexibility with tx having a three-way-Rudd-DR-switch (!RUDD DR0 = (RUDD DR1 or RUDD DR2)).

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15 May 2014 01:38 #23247 by timmyd463229
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Wow my brain hurts from reading this lol....what profile that these great men on here created is closest to what I'm looking for I'd like to be able to have a 60% rates and a 100% rates on stability and a 100% rates in agility with like 125% travel and I'd like yo be able to switch between stability and agility with just pushing a toggle once instead of off on and off again...thanks either way guys cause if this forum wasn't on here I wouldn't have ordered my devo 10

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21 Sep 2014 21:26 #25759 by Crash Survivor
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henkerhaus wrote:

henkerhaus wrote: One thing I'd like to change is to reverse the Rudder D/R switch so Position 0 is the active throttle position, and Position 1 is the Throttle Hold position (which is how I've always used configured Rudder D/R for Throttle Hold)


I finally figured out how to reverse the throttle hold switch... :)

On the Mixer menu, select the <Complex> Button for the Virt1 Channel.
Page to the 3rd Mixer (the throttle hold input, and change the "Switch" Spin Box setting to "RUD DR1" instead of "RUD DR0".


Thanks what I been looking for. Have one on the way for my 4 year daughter & me to fly indoors this winter. My heli's are all setup in standard mixer mode, advanced is all that is supported in plane type V4 FW.

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26 Apr 2015 05:38 #31633 by zoop425
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Hello guys, hoping one of you more experienced Deviation users can find a simple solution for me. I have been tinkering with my Devo 7E and Blade nano FPV for a few days trying to get it set up perfectly. So far, I have tried all the models in this thread plus another one my buddy found that I will post below. The best one I got here gave me full function but the copter would always be heavily trimmed in one tilt and yaw direction even after stick calibration. The one below works fine in that regard but there are not two rates for speed, only stability vs agility and the other toggle switch kills the power completely instead of being dual rates. Thank you for any help you can provide!!

name=Nano QX
mixermode=Advanced
icon=HELI.BMP
type=plane
[radio]
protocol=DSM2
num_channels=7
fixed_id=578918
tx_power=150mW

[protocol_opts]
Telemetry=Off

[channel1]
safetysw=Virt1
failsafe=-100
safetyval=-100
template=simple
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Ch1

[channel2]
failsafe=0
template=expo_dr
[mixer]
src=AIL
dest=Ch2
[mixer]
src=AIL
dest=Ch2
switch=FMODE1
scalar=50
curvetype=expo
points=0,0
[mixer]
src=AIL
dest=Ch2
switch=FMODE1
curvetype=expo
points=0,0

[channel3]
failsafe=0
template=expo_dr
[mixer]
src=ELE
dest=Ch3
[mixer]
src=ELE
dest=Ch3
switch=FMODE1
scalar=50
curvetype=expo
points=0,0
[mixer]
src=ELE
dest=Ch3
switch=FMODE1
curvetype=expo
points=0,0

[channel4]
failsafe=0
template=simple
[mixer]
src=RUD
dest=Ch4

[channel6]
reverse=1
max=100
min=-100
scalar-=100
template=simple
[mixer]
src=Virt2
dest=Ch6
curvetype=3point
points=100,-100,100

[virtchan1]
template=complex
[mixer]
src=Virt1
dest=Virt1
usetrim=0
curvetype=min/max
points=0
[mixer]
src=THR
dest=Virt1
offset=-1
usetrim=0
muxtype=add
[mixer]
src=AIL
dest=Virt1
switch=HOLD0
usetrim=0
curvetype=fixed

[virtchan2]
template=complex
[mixer]
src=FMODE0
dest=Virt2
scalar=3
usetrim=0
muxtype=add
[mixer]
src=Virt2
dest=Virt2
usetrim=0
muxtype=min
curvetype=fixed
[mixer]
src=AIL
dest=Virt2
scalar=-100
usetrim=0
muxtype=max
curvetype=fixed
[mixer]
src=AIL
dest=Virt2
switch=Virt3
usetrim=0
curvetype=fixed

[virtchan3]
template=complex
[mixer]
src=Virt3
dest=Virt3
offset=-1
usetrim=0
curvetype=min/max
points=0
[mixer]
src=!FMODE0
dest=Virt3
offset=-1
usetrim=0
muxtype=add
curvetype=min/max
points=0

[trim1]
src=LEFT_V
pos=None
neg=None
[trim2]
src=RIGHT_V
pos=TRIMRV+
neg=TRIMRV-
step=2
[trim3]
src=LEFT_H
pos=TRIMLH+
neg=TRIMLH-
[trim4]
src=RIGHT_H
pos=TRIMRH+
neg=TRIMRH-
step=2
[timer1]
type=countdown
src=Ch1
resetsrc=HOLD0
time=360
[timer2]
src=Ch1
[safety]
Auto=min
[gui-128x64]
V-trim=55,10,1
H-trim=1,59,3
V-trim=69,10,2
H-trim=78,59,4
Big-box=2,12,Ch1
Small-box=2,28,Timer1
Small-box=2,38,Timer2
Small-box=2,48,Timer3
Bargraph=79,30,Ch1
Bargraph=85,30,Ch2
Bargraph=91,30,Ch3
Bargraph=97,30,Ch4
Bargraph=103,30,Ch5
Bargraph=109,30,Ch6
Bargraph=115,30,Ch7
Bargraph=121,30,Ch8
Toggle=75,13,1,64,0,FMODE
Toggle=84,13,2,65,129,None
Toggle=93,13,0,5,0,None
Toggle=102,13,0,4,0,None
Toggle=111,13,0,8,0,None
Toggle=120,13,0,3,0,None
Battery=102,1
TxPower=75,1

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