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27 Mar 2013 09:16 #8134 by sbstnp
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Pff my receivers are still in the "processing for departure state". That means I'm looking at around 10-11 days till arrival.

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30 Mar 2013 02:13 #8263 by PhracturedBlue
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FYI, I'm having some issues with this protocol again.
It works fine with one of my modules but not another. The Frsky discussion on RCgroups indicated they had some tuning issues with the frsky module. Figuring out precisely what is going on may take some time. The module itself works fine with the skyartec protocol, though, so it is somewhat suspicious.

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30 Mar 2013 04:23 #8265 by sbstnp
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PhracturedBlue wrote: FYI, I'm having some issues with this protocol again.
It works fine with one of my modules but not another. The Frsky discussion on RCgroups indicated they had some tuning issues with the frsky module. Figuring out precisely what is going on may take some time. The module itself works fine with the skyartec protocol, though, so it is somewhat suspicious.


Out of curiosity, which module gives you trouble?

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30 Mar 2013 11:22 #8276 by Hexperience
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I installed the the xl2500-d03 last night... so I'm betting its that one... :(

I have the other one coming in the mail.

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30 Mar 2013 11:31 #8278 by sbstnp
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Hexperience wrote: I installed the the xl2500-d03 last night... so I'm betting its that one... :(

I have the other one coming in the mail.


No luck with the D03?

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30 Mar 2013 11:49 #8280 by Hexperience
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I haven't tested it yet. I only had a chance to make sure I didn't screw up the devo module. I can still bind and control my v450d03 and I get telemetry back... so far so good.

I'll be testing the frsky protocol in an hour or so...

I can't believe I didn't fry it altogether. My eyes have trouble seeing those tiny little pins... ;)

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30 Mar 2013 11:54 #8281 by sbstnp
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Hexperience wrote: I haven't tested it yet. I only had a chance to make sure I didn't screw up the devo module. I can still bind and control my v450d03 and I get telemetry back... so far so good.

I'll be testing the frsky protocol in an hour or so...

I can't believe I didn't fry it altogether. My eyes have trouble seeing those tiny little pins... ;)


I use a SMT soldering iron with a fine tip and magnification. Makes things easier.

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30 Mar 2013 13:39 - 30 Mar 2013 14:49 #8283 by Hexperience
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Using the 12s nightly build, I am only able to set the frsky protocol to 4 channels.

I'm not able to get it to bind as of yet....

--- later that day....

Built a new one from the repo, I now have frsky1 and 2.
I can select 8 channels on frsky2

still trying to get a bind....

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Still can't get it to bind. I've confirmed the rx is fine by rebinding it with my 9x/frsky module.

I must have done something wrong when hooking up the xl2500 module.

Unfortunately I'm not a great electronics trouble shooter...
:(

[modules]
enable-cyrf6936=B12
has_pa-cyrf6936=1
enable-a7105=None
has_pa-a7105=0
enable-cc2500=A14
has_pa-cc2500=1

Is there anything I can do with a normal multimeter to see which wires I may have soldered wrong?

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30 Mar 2013 15:17 #8288 by sbstnp
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Hexperience wrote: Is there anything I can do with a normal multimeter to see which wires I may have soldered wrong?


You can probably check for shorts. I usually check with a magnifying glass and if something looks suspicious I pull my multimeter out.

Better check the diagrams again just to be sure.

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30 Mar 2013 15:27 #8291 by Hexperience
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I went by this diagram..

www.deviationtx.com/forum/protocol-devel...bility?start=60#8144

But my soldering skills not not the best. I was pretty sure everything was ok, but I guess not. I removed it for now and will try again when I have my giant magnifying glass.

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30 Mar 2013 15:44 #8295 by PhracturedBlue
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As I said, the frsky stuff does not seem to work for me except with one of the modules I have. I spent some time workingon it but have not found a solution. I need to set up a spectrum analyzer to figure out what is going on. Probably won't get to it right away though. Too many other things to do.

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30 Mar 2013 15:45 #8296 by rbe2012
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The diagram and the tx.ini fit together, as far as I can see. Did you count the pins at the module or have you looked at the labels / in the manual? Not every cc2500-module seems to have the same order...

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30 Mar 2013 17:11 #8304 by Hexperience
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I'm pretty sure I had the right order, but I'll try again...

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01 Apr 2013 02:38 #8352 by PhracturedBlue
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I think I am missing something in configuring all these modules. I hooked my USRP up again and I see that the module I have that works sends a nice clear signal at 2.404GHz (channel 0). But the module I have in my Devo7e seems to send a wide-spectrum signal which looks nothing like What I get from the working module. So it isn't just a little off on the frequency. It seems to be something more fundamentally wrong.
I'm actually completely baffled as to why it works with the skyartec protocol.

Next I probably need to remove the module from my radio and put it in my test-setup to see if I can figure out what configuration I'm missing.

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01 Apr 2013 10:27 #8358 by blackmoon
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The one that works at the moment with the two protocols is the skyartec one ?

If no, I'm doomed :whistle:

Thank you.

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02 Apr 2013 18:30 #8434 by Hexperience
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So I ordered one of the skyartec modules as well... why not have all 3 right? ;)

I also picked up a wire wrap tool and will re install the xl2500 module just to see if it was bad soldering on my part the first time around.

Keep up the good work PB!!

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02 Apr 2013 22:07 - 02 Apr 2013 22:26 #8435 by Hexperience
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So I reinstalled the xl2500-d03 module and this time I used wirewrap and made sure I connected up correctly, and I'm not able to bind.

No worries... I've got two other modules on the way...

Should I be getting +3.3v on the TCK line?

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03 Apr 2013 01:33 #8436 by PhracturedBlue
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you can't really measure any of the lines (except for Vdd and GND) with a multimeter. they change thousands of times per second. when active. My recommendation is just to let it sit until I figure out what is wrong.
I did some experiments and the data I got is very odd. The results of all the modules with an amplifier make no sense to me. It works just fine when using a module without an amplifier though. I probably need to get some help from someone with more RF knowledge than I have.

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03 Apr 2013 02:54 #8437 by Hexperience
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I wish I could help but I'm just along for the ride... I'm sure you'll get it worked out with time. I think it's as much fun to play with the radios as it is to fly so whatever happens is fine with me...

Cheers!

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03 Apr 2013 08:24 #8442 by xCometz
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FYI,
in some RF front-end chip, like A7700 which in XL7105-D03 module, if you enable both PA and LNA, it goes to suspend mode.
Has anyone opened the XL2500-D03 case and looked for RF front-end chip being used?

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