SYMA X5C-1, X11, X12

You could swap the channels in the mixers...
The attached build has the rudder and elevator swapped from the previous one.

We do still need a trace of the trim adjustments.

If the flip and rate controls work I'll move those to channels 5 and 6 to be consistent with the other quads.

Hey guys
Been reading the last few posts with great interest.....

So with the latest build can I fly the x5c-1 with camera controls now......

Is this included in one of the latest nightly builds or do I need to patch something in order to fly my x11? Thanks

Neil

hexfet wrote: You could swap the channels in the mixers...
The attached build has the rudder and elevator swapped from the previous one.

We do still need a trace of the trim adjustments.

If the flip and rate controls work I'll move those to channels 5 and 6 to be consistent with the other quads.

Yeeeeeeaaaaahhhhhh!!!!
Works perfect! And found the channels for flip mode, and dual rates.
With your latest build flip mode is in channel 7, and dual rates in channel 8.
The elevator is reversed, all the other channels are ok.
So, this is the channel config with your latest build:
Channel 5. Start/stop video capture. (I config my model file with momentary throttle trim down, as original transmitter).
Channel 6. Take picture. (I config my model file with momentary throttle up, as original transmitter).
Channel 7. Flip Mode On. (-100 Flip mode disabled/+100 Flip mode enabled).
Channel 8. Low/High rates. (-100 low rates/+100 high rates).

The only change needed is reverse the elevator channel, and change the channel numbers to be consistent with other quads.

BTW, I will capture SPI trace for trims, as soon as possible.

You did it Hexfet!

scooterstew wrote: Hey guys
Been reading the last few posts with great interest.....

So with the latest build can I fly the x5c-1 with camera controls now......

Sorry, the camera works with the Old version X5C, not the latest X5C-1 you have.
I have not received yet my X11-C, so I can't capture SPI traces yet for the SymaX protocol camera commands.
This new protocol version, is a sub-option inside the SymaX protocol, to bind/fly the old version X5C quads because they uses another protocol.
As soon I receive my X11-C, I will capture camera commands.

scooterstew wrote: So with the latest build can I fly the x5c-1 with camera controls now......

No, the camera controls are found for the original x5c. Hope to have info soon for x5c-1.

Nellyboy wrote: Is this included in one of the latest nightly builds or do I need to patch something in order to fly my x11?

Versions with x11 support can be downloaded here . These are nightly builds from the repo at bitbucket.org/deviationtx/deviation.

Durete wrote: Yeeeeeeaaaaahhhhhh!!!!

BTW, I will capture SPI trace for trims, as soon as possible.

You did it Hexfet!

We did it - doesn't work without data and testing. Syma X1 was my first RC so it's fun to support them.

I'll wait for the trim info before finalizing and pushing the changes. Thanks!

midelic wrote: Something is wrong or not very clear I had a quick look on spi data from SymaXXX.provided here.I see the loop on SYMA is called every 4 ms...where the code YD717,,you modified to fit SYMA..is still every 8ms.in this case one frame is missed every second loop.
*********************************************************
// Timeout for callback in uSec, 8ms=8000us for YD717
#define PACKET_PERIOD 8000
***********************************************
Maybe I'm mistaken...did anybody saw that?

The YD717 and variants do use 8mS packet interval, including the Syma X2 and X4 models. Those models used to be supported in the separate SymaX protocol, but are being moved to a protocol option under the YD717 protocol.

The SymaX protocol is being changed to support the protocol used by Syma X11, X12, X5C-1, and (with protocol option) the original X5C. This protocol uses a 4mS packet interval.

Finally I could make the Trimmers capture (My wife is looking me very bad )

I captured rudder trim from left to right finishing at centre position. Then elevator, and finally Aileron.
Wish the capture will be ok.

Removed SPI Capture

Say thanks to your wife. Let her know we're making the world a better place

Hopefully I got the trims in the correct directions. If so, you should notice slightly faster rates. If not, they'll be slower.

The elevator channel is reversed from what it was.

I also moved the control channels:
ch 5: flip control
ch 6: rates
ch 7: picture
ch 8: video

Thanks for the capture and testing!

hexfet wrote: Say thanks to your wife. Let her know we're making the world a better place

Hopefully I got the trims in the correct directions. If so, you should notice slightly faster rates. If not, they'll be slower.

The elevator channel is reversed from what it was.

I also moved the control channels:
ch 5: flip control
ch 6: rates
ch 7: picture
ch 8: video

Thanks for the capture and testing!

hey hexfet and durete....
you are legends.....
if you need any help i own a x5c-1 and x12......
any help i can provide....just ask.....

Nice job by the way .... If I am not wrong the X5C protocol is also shared with the X2? (in fact the actual so called X2 in diviationTX should be called X4)

SeByDocKy wrote: Nice job by the way .... If I am not wrong the X5C protocol is also shared with the X2? (in fact the actual so called X2 in diviationTX should be called X4)

Yes, I agree.
I don't have the X2, but the actual protocol SymaX2 works for X3 and X4. Not sure about X2.
The Syma X2 is not a best seller, not so many people have it.
I agree with you Seby The actual SymaX2 probably will be a good idea name as SymaX34 or something similar.

Durete wrote:

SeByDocKy wrote: Nice job by the way .... If I am not wrong the X5C protocol is also shared with the X2? (in fact the actual so called X2 in diviationTX should be called X4)

Yes, I agree.
I don't have the X2, but the actual protocol SymaX2 works for X3 and X4. Not sure about X2.
The Syma X2 is not a best seller, not so many people have it.
I agree with you Seby The actual SymaX2 probably will be a good idea name as SymaX34 or something similar.

Are you sure for the SYMA X3 ? Coz I believed the X3 have the protocol than the X1 ... maybe I wrong. For the X2, Fying Ryan must have this one and can confirm or not the X2 comptability

SeByDocKy wrote:

Durete wrote:

SeByDocKy wrote: Nice job by the way .... If I am not wrong the X5C protocol is also shared with the X2? (in fact the actual so called X2 in diviationTX should be called X4)

Yes, I agree.
I don't have the X2, but the actual protocol SymaX2 works for X3 and X4. Not sure about X2.
The Syma X2 is not a best seller, not so many people have it.
I agree with you Seby The actual SymaX2 probably will be a good idea name as SymaX34 or something similar.

Are you sure for the SYMA X3 ? Coz I believed the X3 have the protocol than the X1 ... maybe I wrong. For the X2, Fying Ryan must have this one and can confirm or not the X2 comptability

I read at this thread from Scooterstew
www.deviationtx.com/forum/protocol-devel...1-x12?start=60#27351

For the X2, maybe Ryan or Frequent Flyer could confirm this compatibility.

Yeah!
Confirmed at Ryan's review. The X2 bind with the X5C transmitter.



So the Syma protocols are:
Old SymaX protocol (named actually as SymaX2) for X3, X4 and X6.
New SymaX protocol for X11,X12,X5C-1 and with Sub-option enabled X5C old version and X2.
Flysky protocol for X1

I don't know about the X7

Just tested the last build.
Now, all channels are ok and works perfect!
But the pitch and roll rates are very low
With high rates activated (channel 6), the pitch and roll rates are only a little bit higher than low rates with stock transmitter.
With low rates activated, are veeeery loooow...
Maybe Trims in the wrong direction?

Sounds like they're reversed. How is the yaw rate?

Are the button channel assignments correct?

For the name of the protocol option in YD717, which of X3, X4, and X6 is the most widespread model? Probably best to name it after that one.

The button assignment is perfect, all channels are working now as you wrote before, and without reverse.
The yaw rate is a little bit slower also, but not scandalous as pitch and roll.

About the name for the protocol in YD717 maybe the Syma X4 is more widespread, but I'm not sure. What do you think Seby?

@Hexfet, do you need any other capture? I have the cables soldered to the module, so very easy for me.

Well, I forget to tell you, the yaw rate appears to be a little bit slower, not too much really, but when I use the rudder trims, they work in the correct direction. The Quad turn slowly.