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09 Dec 2016 16:01 #56710 by goebish
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Are you using a x-in-1 module or a separate nrf24l01+ ?

Looks like the x-in-1 modules are having issues emulating XN297L at 250kbps ... unfortunately there's nothing much I can do about that.

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09 Dec 2016 16:01 #56711 by victzh
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@SodaAnt similar to what? Are you sure you're writing in the right thread? And what is 10e?

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09 Dec 2016 16:05 #56712 by SodaAnt
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goebish wrote: Are you using a x-in-1 module or a separate nrf24l01+ ?

Looks like the x-in-1 modules are having issues emulating XN297L at 250kbps ... unfortunately there's nothing much I can do about that.


Yeah, that seems like it may be the issue. I do think I have a spare nrf24l01+ board lying around, maybe it is possible to solder that into the tx in addition to the 3 in 1 module, but designate the new pins as the ones for the nrf in the config file?

victzh wrote: @SodaAnt similar to what? Are you sure you're writing in the right thread? And what is 10e?


Yes, meant to quote a post and failed. The binding issues on anything but very low powers that some people were seeing. The 10E is simply the devo 10, but white and a bit higher dBi antenna.

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09 Dec 2016 16:10 #56713 by goebish
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SodaAnt wrote: Yeah, that seems like it may be the issue. I do think I have a spare nrf24l01+ board lying around, maybe it is possible to solder that into the tx in addition to the 3 in 1 module, but designate the new pins as the ones for the nrf in the config file?


You'll have to disconnect the nrf24 csn pin from the x-in-1 module to connect the one from the separate module instead.

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09 Dec 2016 16:14 #56714 by goebish
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Also, try with a few different transmitter IDs, maybe it will work better with a different set of frequencies, that's worth a try ...

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09 Dec 2016 16:18 #56716 by goebish
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victzh wrote: @SodaAnt similar to what?


@victzh, interesting post regarding a x-in-1 module, nrf24l01 and a xn297l @ 250kbps protocol:
www.deviationtx.com/forum/protocol-devel...-q303?start=80#56342

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09 Dec 2016 17:05 - 09 Dec 2016 17:10 #56720 by ajtank
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A possible fix to this issue is to change the two loading capacitors of the crystal to 15pF. I am running some more experiments on Q303 and will come to a conclusion very soon. Anybody having problem using nRF24L01 of 4-in-1 module to emulate XN297L in 250kbps mode can give this a try.
Last edit: 09 Dec 2016 17:10 by ajtank.

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13 Dec 2016 13:45 - 15 Dec 2016 16:09 #56776 by planger
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More IDs vs Frequencies:
NumID/Freq
00x4F0x1C0x00/0x3A0x350x4A0x45
10x900x1C0x00/0x2E0x360x3E0x46
20x240x360x00/0x320x3E0x420x4E
30x7A0x400x00/0x2E0x3C0x3E0x4C
40x610x310x00/0x2F0x3B0x3F0x4B
50x5D0x370x00/0x330x3B0x430x4B
60xFD0x4F0x00/0x330x3B0x430x4B
70x860x3C0x00/0x340x3E0x440x4E
80x410x220x00/0x3F0x340x2F0x44
90xEE0xB30x00/0x390x3E0x490x4E
100x9A0xB20x00/0x2E0x380x3E0x48
110x3C0xCD0x01/0x320x3E0x420x4E
120xC00x440x00/0x2E0x360x3E0x46
130x2A0xFE0x00/0x2E0x380x3E0x48
140xD70x6E0x00/0x3A0x410x4A0x51
150xF50x2B0x02/0x330x3F0x430x4F

Pascal
Last edit: 15 Dec 2016 16:09 by planger. Reason: 2 bad entries...

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13 Dec 2016 13:46 #56777 by goebish
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Thanks, I'll add them to Deviation and nrf24-multipro :)

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13 Dec 2016 16:48 - 13 Dec 2016 16:53 #56795 by goebish
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I'll remove pairs with duplicate channel list (quite a few of them for only 15 dumps !) because flying more than 1 E010 with transmitters that are using the same frequencies is an issue: github.com/goebish/nrf24_multipro/issues/17

Interferences have also a good chance to happen with stock transmitters, looks like they're using a fixed list of 16 or so channel sequence ...
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14 Dec 2016 17:01 #56821 by victzh
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But please keep this list somewhere - it may help guessing the algorithm of producing frequency hopping (actually - two frequencies, other two are deduced) from id.

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14 Dec 2016 18:59 - 14 Dec 2016 19:00 #56824 by goebish
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Do we have a consensus of how many tx id / channels pairs are required to add a protocol to Deviation when we've not figured out the algo yet ?
I've a few uncommited protocols because I've only 1-2 tx id ...
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14 Dec 2016 19:52 #56826 by FDR
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I think it is a question of documentation.
If you add a comment about that in the supported model list, every protocol is useful even if only one channel set is known...

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14 Dec 2016 19:56 #56827 by victzh
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I agree with FDR. Also, protocol visibility raises chances of other people providing us with more Id data.

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15 Dec 2016 12:22 #56839 by FabioKastro
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My Devo only binds to the E010 at 10mW and it has a bad delay. Is that because of the 3in1 not being able to simulate whatever you guys said above?

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15 Dec 2016 12:24 - 15 Dec 2016 12:25 #56840 by goebish
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Probably, looks like a fix is to replace the 2 capacitors (size 0402, value 15pF) that are located near the oscillator of the nrf24l01:
www.deviationtx.com/forum/protocol-devel...q303?start=100#56818

But first, try with a few different transmitter ID.
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15 Dec 2016 15:32 #56846 by planger
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FabioKastro wrote: My Devo only binds to the E010 at 10mW and it has a bad delay. Is that because of the 3in1 not being able to simulate whatever you guys said above?

This is also caused by bad antennas. Try another one.
Pascal

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15 Dec 2016 16:05 - 15 Dec 2016 16:11 #56847 by ajtank
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Here is the capture of my E010 transmitter.
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15 Dec 2016 16:10 #56849 by planger
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Thanks, I've updated the table above.
Pascal

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15 Dec 2016 16:12 #56850 by goebish
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I've already tried hard but I can't find the logic ... oh well, this list is good enough :)

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