Logic Analyzer SPI Capture for PROPEL 74-z

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06 Jul 2019 03:24 - 06 Jul 2019 03:25 #74697 by RAY123
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jitter wrote: first of all, lots of thanks for working on this!
just got a "T8SG Plus Advanced" and i have the "Tie Fighter" from propel. so i flashed the 9e5dfe5 on it and tried but... it does not bind.
is there a way to work around the lack of the 'Auto-ACK' feature?
or is there anything else i can do to help?
best regards

I have tested the 74-z TX and TIE TX,they're different ,TIE TX can't be controlled 74-z aircraft.Unfortunately, I don't have TIE aircraft,I only have TIE TX .
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06 Jul 2019 03:34 - 06 Jul 2019 03:38 #74698 by RAY123
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hexfet wrote: Test build is updated ( 9e5dfe5 ). This should work for 7e and f7. There's a more general problem with modular builds. I made a temporary fix.

If possible please make a capture on the receiver at the time the tx is powered off. There are a few different things the receiver could do to reconnect, so need a capture to see what it's doing.

Alf-1234, the problem with the T8SG Plus may be that it does not support the Auto-ACK function. I tested my T8+ (which is one of the first) and the 4in1 module does not support Auto-ACK. That feature is required for this protocol. Not sure if later T8SG models used compatible radio devices. If you could post a video of the telemetry test page while trying to bind that will confirm the issue.

My logic analyzer has only 8 channels. Please tell me the definition of TX bk2425 chip pin. I am going to capture both receiving and TX data at the same time,THANKS!:lol: :lol:
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06 Jul 2019 07:26 - 06 Jul 2019 07:30 #74699 by RAY123
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5-7.sr for reveiver:
www.mediafire.com/download/tddf63apua31gtv


The test found that if you use propel TX to control, then turn off propel TX. Turn on d7e 256k(9e5dfe5), you cannot control 74-z.
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06 Jul 2019 20:39 #74702 by Alf-1234
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Ich habe hier jetzt auch die neueste Version auf meinem Jumper installiert.
Leider kann ich auch damit nicht meinen Speederbike binden.
Das Auto-ACK Feature gabe es aber in der vor vorherigen Version schon drin.
In der aktuellen Version jetzt ist es nicht mehr drin. Warum???
Hier mal 2 Bilder.


I have now installed the latest version on my jumper.
Unfortunately, I can not tie my speederbike with it.
The auto-ACK feature gave it but in the previous version already in there.
In the current version now it is no longer in it. Why???
Here are 2 pictures.
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12 Jul 2019 15:24 #74731 by hexfet
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Thanks for the captures. Test build is updated ( 935d8b3 ). Please try the tx off / tx on test again. If that works, please also try taking the aircraft out of range and then back into range and see if it reconnects.

I haven't been able to find a pinout for the tssop package.

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12 Jul 2019 15:36 #74732 by hexfet
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Alf-1234 wrote: The auto-ACK feature gave it but in the previous version already in there.
In the current version now it is no longer in it. Why???

The option is removed because this protocol cannot bind without Auto-ACK. The receiver returns data that is required for binding.

With this new version you could try binding first with the stock tx, then turn it off and turn on the devo. That might work.

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12 Jul 2019 18:44 - 12 Jul 2019 18:45 #74734 by RAY123
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hexfet wrote: Thanks for the captures. Test build is updated ( 935d8b3 ). Please try the tx off / tx on test again. If that works, please also try taking the aircraft out of range and then back into range and see if it reconnects.

I haven't been able to find a pinout for the tssop package.

Just now I tested, tx off/tx on control is still successful, later(Six hours later :P ) I will try to take the aircraft out of range, thank you for your help these weeks, thank you!!!;)
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12 Jul 2019 18:50 #74735 by Alf-1234
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Ich habe die letzte Version (935d8b3) neu installiert auf meinem Jumper.
Leider kann ich meinen Speederbike auch mit dieser neuen Version nicht binden.

Scheinbar ist es doch nicht so einfach. Und dabei würde ich den so gerne mit meinem Jumper Gas rechts fliegen.
Mit dem Original Sender komme ich leider nicht klar, da ich Gas rechts fliege.

Ich gebe die Hoffnung aber nicht auf, das es doch irgendwie irgendwann geht.


I have the last version (935d8b3) reinstalled on my jumper.
Unfortunately I can not tie my Speederbike with this new version.

Apparently it's not that easy. And I would like to fly it right with my jumper gas.
Unfortunately, I can not get along with the original transmitter because I am flying on the right.

I do not give up the hope that it somehow someday goes.

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13 Jul 2019 01:27 - 13 Jul 2019 01:56 #74737 by RAY123
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RAY123 wrote:

hexfet wrote: Thanks for the captures. Test build is updated ( 935d8b3 ). Please try the tx off / tx on test again. If that works, please also try taking the aircraft out of range and then back into range and see if it reconnects.

I haven't been able to find a pinout for the tssop package.

Just now I tested, tx off/tx on control is still successful, later(Six hours later :P ) I will try to take the aircraft out of range, thank you for your help these weeks, thank you!!!;)

The range test is ok,Rx takes control of aircraft again.See test video for a problem.
www.mediafire.com/download/os8tqsphnkjkomp
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13 Jul 2019 14:34 #74743 by Alf-1234
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Das Video habe ich mir angeschaut.
Ich habe das wie im Video auch versucht mit meiner T8SG nach zu machen, aber leider konnte ich den Speederbike nicht binden.:(

Daher habe ich mal eine Frage:
Was kann denn der Devo 7e Sender mehr als der Sender Jumper T8SG?

Um den Speederbike zu fliegen, müsste ich mir also einen neuen Sender kaufen. Würde dafür auch schon der Devo 7 Sender reichen oder muss das unbedingt ein Devo 7e Sender sein?
Wo ist der Unterschied zwischen diesen beiden Sendern?



I watched the video.
I've tried as in the video synonymous with my T8SG to make, but unfortunately I could not tie the Speederbike.

So I have a question:
What can the Devo 7e transmitter do more than the transmitter Jumper T8SG?

To fly the Speederbike, I would have to buy a new transmitter. Would that be enough for the Devo 7 transmitter, or would that necessarily be a Devo 7e transmitter?
Where is the difference between these two channels?

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26 Jul 2019 09:44 #74803 by Alf-1234
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Ist hier noch einer am Speederbike bei, oder hat sich das erledigt???


Is there one more on the Speederbike, or has it done?

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15 Aug 2019 20:21 #74903 by Alf-1234
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Ist hier noch einer am Propel 74-z bei oder hat sich das erledigt?
Ich habe meinen leider noch nicht am fliegen, obwohl ich mir die Videos angeschaut habe.

Warum läuft hier im Forum seit eingen Wochen nichts mehr?
Ebenfalls gibt es seit einigen Wochen keine neuen Nightly Builds mehr.
Was ist passiert hier im Forum????



Is there one more on the Propel 74-z or has it done?
Unfortunately, I did not fly mine, even though I watched the videos.

Why is nothing going on here in the forum for a few weeks?
Also there are no new nightly builds for several weeks.
What happened here in the forum ????

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16 Aug 2019 22:20 - 16 Aug 2019 22:20 #74911 by hexfet
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I haven't had time to look at the latest capture, and won't for several weeks. Summer is typically slow here.
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12 Sep 2019 15:57 #75101 by Alf-1234
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Ist hier noch einer aktiv dabei, den Speederbike mit dem Jumper T8SG zu binden??
Ich wäre immer noch sehr daran interssiert und es würde mich sehr freuen, wenn das mal klappen würde.

Is there one more active here, to bind the Speeder Bike with the Jumper T8SG ??
I would still be very interested in it and I would be very happy, if that would work out.

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01 Oct 2019 22:32 #75177 by Alf-1234
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Ist hier noch einer aktiv am Propel 74-z bei? Interssiert mich immer noch.


Is there one more active on the Propel 74-z? I am still interested in it.

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26 Oct 2019 10:24 #75318 by Alf-1234
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Ist hier noch einer aktiv am Speederbike bei?
Ich würde mich sehr freuen, wenn ich den Speederbike mit meiner T8SG binden könnte.:)


Is there one more active on the Speederbike?
I would be very happy if I could tie the Speederbike with my T8SG.:)

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26 Oct 2019 16:01 #75322 by jitter
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nein, der einzige der noch aktiv ist bist du, mit deiner nervigen unkonstruktiven fragerei. wie waere es wenn du selbst etwas lernst?

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03 Apr 2020 17:48 #76134 by planger
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Protocol fully reversed available on Multi Github.
Pascal

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