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  • Danker16
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24 Nov 2017 07:34 - 24 Nov 2017 07:40
Replied by Danker16 on topic Align T-Rex 150

Align T-Rex 150

Category: Model Configs

I know this is an old topic but for anyone looking for compatibility with this bird on the devo 10,
installed CC2500 module from banggood with latest vlads build, no freq tuning needed on mine for binding with S-FHSS Protocol. seems to respond better than with DSMX protocol and satellite.
all DR and TH-H operational.

im attaching my model file.


AIL and ELE DR0 50 w +30EXP, DR1 100/ LIN

Normal, idle 1 and 2 as per align manual, throttle safety at -100, and RUD1 Throttle -100 and pitch hold at 0 degrees.

the 150x GRS is nice because the deviation values match, GRS values are -100 to +100. always calibrate when you change tx settings in app and do it with throttle hold off.
  • Danker16
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22 Mar 2017 23:12 - 22 Mar 2017 23:16
Replied by Danker16 on topic Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Beginner Settings

Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Beginner Settings

Category: Model Configs

hey, this is an old post, hopefully someone can help.
I loaded this on my devo 10 with a align 150x GRS, in regards to channel 5 which is the gyro why is the src = AIL? shouldnt it be Ch5?
as for the pitch curve in normal model my heli takes off from beginning -100 to -60, at mid stick and above the pitch becomes negative and heli descends.

the Tx has gyro settings, the heli also has an advanced setup for gyro settings via bluetooth how do these two settings affect each other?
any suggestions?
  • Thomas.Heiss
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05 Sep 2016 21:12 - 08 Sep 2016 14:29
Replied by Thomas.Heiss on topic Heli: Summary code analysis, problems, templates

Heli: Summary analysis, problem spots, templates

Category: Development

I did invest on Friday and Saturday 02./03 September some further time to try to understand what is really going on / wrong with the old vs new heli templates.ini and CCPM 120 vs FBL/NONE settings and model.ini settings once written to file system or what happens on GUI model setup / swashplate changes.

This includes 4.0.1-nightly builds before (I am on fcd0669) and after Hexfet's template changes of PullRequest #90 / b9edc4c and included Deviation release 5.0 templates and how my Blade 4503D Flybar heli (CCPM120 with front elevator cyclic servo) and Walkera V120D02s (FBL: Spektrumized/Tarot ZYX) work(ed) with my own Deviation model.ini's (before).

Somehow we also seem to have lost file history BitBucket->Github source repository for the templates and pre master/default/trunk and branches?!?


As explained by Hexfet previously
- pointing to the mixer.c MIXER_CreateCyclicOutput code
- and undoing his previous 4.0.1-nightly-build mixer.c code changes

we still must consider for heli templates + standard mixer (heli) GUI actually swapping cyclic2 with cyclic1 as the CCPM (120) workaround if not going for NONE/1 Servo/FBL.

This can ONLY BE DONE right now in the advanced mixer GUI or manually by editing model.ini - once the (standard) heli GUI screen setup is finished and does not get changed anymore (e.g Swashplate CCPM, protocol, etc.).
If you do editing before or you auto-load (popup mixer heli dialog) any default heli template, it will get overwritten by the current C code.

Otherwise you guys would have to re-write mixer.c - and leaving all previous Deviation 4.01, 4.01-nightly-build and 5.0 release heli model.ini's non-compatible, as explained by Hexfet in coordination with PhracturedBlue about future template versioning.
Even for the old heli templates (all Deviation versions) we would have no 100% working workaround, especially standard mixer GUI (and clicking thru screens).



I) IMHO we need to split heli templates into two for each type - I already have written / tested with basic 4-5 heli templates:

- advanced mixer GUI: CCPM120&others + CCPM NONE [+a real 3rd FBL heli template]: that will of course work without having to manually swapping cyclic2/cyclic1 by user as all variations can be supplied
- standard mixer GUI: CCPM120&others + CCPM NONE (FBL)


II) 4.0.1-nightly-builds heli templates (before b9edc4c) where compatible with CCPM NONE (FBL) only

-> manual swapping cyclic2<->cyclic1 for ELEV/AIL by user in (advanced) mixer GUI for CCPM120 is required and confuses new Deviation users: heli threads popup every ~1-4 weeks


III) new committed release 5.0 heli templates changed by Hexfet (after b9edc4c) are IMHO not compatible with CCPM NONE (FBL) and standard port and standard channel mappings anymore per manual 11.4 swash mixing definitions

Confirmed for III) FBL re-test. on September 08: www.deviationtx.com/forum/7-development/...pots-templates#53635

-> 6ch_heli.ini: cyclic1/cyclic2 ELEV/AIL swapping for e.g CCPM 120 is already done in template, but normal cyclic2/cyclic1 ELEV/AIL mapping is missing (I guess there will be much more FBL helis stand flybar CCPM mixing helis?)
-> alternative 3rd heli FBL template is missing (6ch_heli.ini could be used previously for NONE/FBL too!)
-> heli_std.ini (see V): if there is any fixed AIL/ELEV receiver port/channel order (e.g NanoCPX, XK K110 FBL heli, T-Rex 150 etc.) - where you might not be able to switch ELEV<->AIL ports on the receiver??!??)


IIII) Hardcoded mixer_standard.c does not set the template for protocol e.g EATR vs TAER re-mappings (or automap) as read before in 2 given heli_xxx.ini templates for previous mapped channel:
It does not yet use "MIXER_GetTemplate(previous channel)", so no way to set cyclic1/cyclic2 in any specific two file templates and changing the protocol laters in the GUI.
Template settings are ignored, C code is hardcoded overwriting.
void STDMIXER_SetChannelOrderByProtocol()
{
...
mixer_standard.c:       MIXER_SetTemplate(mapped_std_channels.aile, MIXERTEMPLATE_CYC1);
mixer_standard.c:       MIXER_SetTemplate(mapped_std_channels.elev, MIXERTEMPLATE_CYC2);

Instead of using hardcoded mappings like my try in V) which also takes consideration of swashplate 1S/FBL vs CCPM mixing how could we just read the previous output channel ELEV/AIL and given cyclic2 (NONE) vs cyclic1 (CCPM) template mappings?

Do we have access to the previous loaded template channel values?


V) new committed heli templates do not work in the standard mixer GUI as there is mixer_standard.c code which overwrites (hardcoded) templates.ini cyclic1/2 mappings to it's ELEV->Cyclic2, AIL->Cyclic1 defaults (as before b9edc4c)
-> only playing around with heli_std.ini is NOT enough for working heli setups!

For my internal standard mixer GUI test I partially extended (successfully) this code to:
void STDMIXER_SetChannelOrderByProtocol()
{
    // AIL<->Cyclic1, ELEV<->Cyclic2 and Virt1<->AIL input, Virt2<->ELEV source input mappings only work for SwashType NONE=FBL settings
    if (Model.swash_type == SWASH_TYPE_NONE) {
       // standard template cyclic settings as before: required for FBL (direct 1:1 channel <-> Cyclic <-> source requirements)
       MIXER_SetTemplate(mapped_std_channels.aile, MIXERTEMPLATE_CYC1);
       MIXER_SetTemplate(mapped_std_channels.elev, MIXERTEMPLATE_CYC2);
    } else {
       // mixer.c requires model.ini swapped cyclic templates for working AIL+ELEV CCPM mixing
       // need: output AIL: template Cyclic2, output ELEV=Cyclic1
       // model.ini Virt1<->AIL source, Virt2<->ELEV source.
       MIXER_SetTemplate(mapped_std_channels.aile, MIXERTEMPLATE_CYC2); // std_heli_CCPM.ini template is setup like that
       MIXER_SetTemplate(mapped_std_channels.elev, MIXERTEMPLATE_CYC1); // std_heli_CCPM.ini template is setup like that
    }

This code however does NOT work with the mixer GUI advanced to standard screen and popup dialog and heli_std.ini template loading.


VI) new heli_std.ini template with changed Virt1<->ELEV / Virt1<->AIL inputs (before: Virt1<->AIL / Virt2<->ELEV inputs) do not work for CCPM120 and front elevator for me (I can see this in channel monitor):
- AIL (roll) stick is mixing wrong ELEV+PIT channels instead of AIL+PIT channels, because of the change of the Virt1/Virt2 switched source inputs
- AIL (roll) stick is mixing only correctly AIL+PIT channels: when Virt1/Virt2 restore to old AIL/ELE (before b9edc4c) source input behavior!
-> mixer_standard.c code overwrites the given (adjusted/switched) template cyclic1/cyclic2 ELEV/AIL mapping to previous cyclic2/cyclic1 ELEV/AIL template mapping

-> manual 11.4 swash mixing diagram clearly states that ELEV port is the front/back elevator servo and AIL+PIT ports are to be used for the roll servos, nothing different: www.deviationtx.com/manuals/html-devo10/...ex.html#swash-mixing

-> even for FBL (CCPM NONE) helis in standard mixer GUI:
* output ELEV channel is therefore assigned to AIL source input (template.ini cyclic1 is ignored and changed back to cyclic2)
* output AIL channel is assigned to ELEV source input (template.ini cyclic2 is ignored and changed back to cyclic1)


VII) In the Model setup / mixer advanced->standard selection and popup window there is the "default standard heli template" read:
pages/common/_dialogs.c:    static const char * const STANDARD_TEMPLATE = "heli_std.ini";

static void invalid_stdmixer_cb(u8 state, void *guiObj)
{
...
 CONFIG_ReadTemplate(STANDARD_TEMPLATE); // load template
...
}

The standard GUI mixer popup window
1) does not yet care about Swashplate NONE vs CCPM settings
2) and does not make any template loading choices
3) and would have to be extended with a 2nd popup or a message that a user should actually use the "load/template" button functionality instead of switching to "standard mixer GUI" at the bottom in model setup screen.

heli_std.ini as a template and the constant should be removed!

It looks illogical to me that a user should use "model setup" screen / item "heli" / press button on heli to show "swashplate configuration" popup to either choose NONE (default) or CCPM 120 and then afterwards would have to click in model setup screen below at the the "mixer GUI" item button and choose standard to load one of the two correct heli templates?!?

The normal use of the standard heli GUI probably is that a user chooses advanced vs standard and does the swash settings (NONE vs CCPM 120) within the real standard swash menu configuration (after the template is loaded).

I already tested what happens if I delete the heli_std.ini template (to decouple a little bit the heli logic from the dialog).
Of course no standard heli template can be found by _dialog.c and therefore it would not switch to standard gui anymore.
So there has to stay "some heli logic" with the model setup / mixer GUI standard popup _dialog.c.


VIII) _dialogs.c: Maybe it would be better to drop support for auto standard heli template.ini loading for any Non-Swashplate specific settings with the popup window?
Spreading CCPM NONE vs CCPM 120/120x/140/90 template dialog loading
vs
STDMIXER_SetChannelOrderByProtocol() channel to cyclic1/cyclic2 template mappings
vs
Swashplate NONE->CCPM120/120x/140/90 event fire

Multiple C places with some business logic.


VIIII) Standard mixer GUI and loading a NONE template does not do any event fire when Swashplate NONE->120 is changed within the model setup [probably also for standard GUI Swash menu?!], once the heli template is loaded.
STDMIXER_SetChannelOrderByProtocol() is not called, my model.ini is not re-written for cyclic1/cylic2 (but stays cyclic2/cyclic1).
This means that Swashplate NONE cyclic2/cyclic1 template mappings are not switched for Swashplate 120 to cyclic1/cyclic2 output channel template mappings!!!

How could we easily add Swash change monitoring / event fire and calling our cyclic mapping business logic (or reading from previous template.ini output channel mappings)?


X) There are multiple places where STDMIXER_SetChannelOrderByProtocol() is called, if you really care to integrate any swash business logic as with my test in IV)


XI) Can cyclic1/cyclic2 template to output channel ELEV/AIL mapping be also applied to 120X/140/90 swashplate configuration or is 120X e.g one exception?
I have to read in more detail the 11.4 manual about swash mixing possibilities and play around with the 3 cyclic channel mixing in monitor.
I can only live-test 120 front elevator with my Blade 4503D and so far I do fully understand the channel monitor with only this setting. So far I checked my two models for the channel monitor and tried to replicate for the new templates or code change tests.


Doing all my basic tests with all these variations I do now understand more and more why there are more and more Deviation users who do not get any working heli configuration/templates and mappings anymore :-)
One thing is always missing / wrong...

#1 successful standard mixer GUI test (with no manual model.ini editing): Heli cyclic mixing worked for me in channel monitor either for NONE/FBL or CCPM120 if done correctly in the right order (manual heli template loading, protocol initation, protocol change, etc.).

Personally I would only suggest to go the "4.0.1/5.0 template / model ini" heli compatible workaround route in upcoming nightly-build / 5.x.x if further heli / screen mixer code changes (existing multiple blocks / files) do not get too overwhelming.


Hope to hear from you guys.


Thomas
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25 Nov 2014 20:54
Replied by frog on topic Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Standard Settings

Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Standard Settings

Category: Model Configs

Using DSMX Sat and my Devo 10 I had some binding problems. Switched to 8 channels and everything works just fine (also 6 channels did work).
  • max.hof
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07 Jul 2014 08:04
Replied by max.hof on topic Devo 12S DSMX Range and Telemetry Questions

Devo 12S DSMX Range and Telemetry Questions

Category: Feedback & Questions

Hi John,
I run a Devo8S with Devention 4.01, different Helis (Mini Cp, T-rex 450, Compass 6HV & 7HV)
On the 7HV I have the same Setup 2 DSMX Satelites & VBar. I have the same issue with the Antenna switching. transmission power is 100mw. I have not done a range test with lower transmission power, but with 100mw I loose control after 200 meters on Ground test in the worst case. I have about 50 flights on this heli now, but had never any issues in flight. (up in the air the range should be better since it's a 2.4GHz)
I guess I should do a range test with the satelites on a different place, but to answer your questions:

2+3: I don't think there is something wrong with your transmitter hardware, since it's the same on mine.

4: I run Walkera RX up to 6V

6: I'm sure u r right, but I don't know the transmission power @ a spektrum transmitter range test

7: it would be interesting what's a occasional antenna switching, i think I read somewhere in the VBar forum that antenna switching every second is normal?? So I'd probably figure out how often is occasional.

I will probably do a range/flight test with a Spektrum transmitter the next days & let u know the results.

I've had ~ 250 flights with the devention firmware (~100 with Devo Protokoll, ~150 with DSMX) and everything worked fine until yesterday.

I hope I figure out what went wrong, but so far I can say that either the Software crashed or the TX output PCB failed.
I was flying the Trex 450 (Devo RX701) & suddenly the motor switched off at low altitude (must have been failsave) the heli crashed into a field and had no visible damage, that's why I wanted to check the servos and spool it up just a minute later. but I had no control! I replaced the Lipo of the heli, same thing. then I realized the Microbeast doesn't boot up and also the ESC doesn't initialise. so I switched the transmitter off & on and finally the heli was initialising! that's why I'm sure there was something wrong with the transmitter.
Since it was the 450, I had 2 more flights everything fine. at home I checked the error log: no entry

that's why I'm really worried now! I'd say the range is enough if you fly only helis and no FPV. but crashing a 600 or 700 heli at the wrong moment can cause some serious injury!

so if I figure out what's wrong or if there is a difference in the antenna switching to a Spektrum transmitter I'll let u know.

attached the Vbar log file

File Attachment:

File Name: log.pdf
File Size:100 KB



all the best
Markus
  • Tom Z
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01 May 2014 02:03 - 01 May 2014 13:26
Align T-Rex 150 DFC - 3 Difficulty Modes was created by Tom Z

Align T-Rex 150 DFC - 3 Difficulty Modes

Category: Model Configs

I made this model based off my other Align T-Rex 150 DFC models.
It has 3 difficulty modes: Beginner, Standard, 3D. The difficulty modes are controlled with the Flight Mode Switch.


Normal - Beginner Settings
No negative pitch for normal mode so you don’t slam the heli down if you pull the stick down to fast. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick. Mild pitch.
D/R = 50% EXP +30%

ST-1 - Standard Settings

-3* negative pitch. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick. More aggressive pitch.
D/R = 70% EXP +30%

ST-2 - 3D Settings

Full +/- 3D pitch curve. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick. Aggressive pitch.
D/R = 125% EXP LIN



Model 48 is for deviation firmware v4 and the DEVO 6/6S/8/8S/10/12/12S.

* This model will not work for deviation firmware v2.1 or v3.


  • Throttle hold on the RUDD D/R switch.
  • 7 Point Throttle and Pitch Curves.
  • TX Power=100mW
  • Channels=7
  • Protocol=DSMX
  • No Fixed ID
  • Stick Mode 2
  • If you need Stick Mode 1, 3, or 4 load the model into your transmitter then change the Stick Mode in the transmitter settings.




    Set your ESC Li-po Cell Count setting to "AUTO". Default setting is 2 CELL.

    ESC Settings

    Functions

    6. Li-Po Cell Count - Make sure to set this to "Auto".
    Do not use the "2S" setting. You will have an extreme power/headspeed loss using the default "2S" setting.



Throttle Curve

Normal: Linear Curve

ST-1: V Shaped Throttle Curve

ST-2: More aggressive V Shaped Throttle Curve


Throttle Hold is active on RUDD D/R switch



Pitch Curve

Normal: No negative pitch for normal mode so you don’t slam the heli down if you pull the stick down to fast. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick. Mild pitch.

ST-1: -3* negative pitch. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick. More aggressive pitch.

ST-2: Full +/- 3D pitch curve. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick. Aggressive pitch.




Gyro Gain - These are the values I used then converted them to the deviation values.

Mix Switch

Pos 0: 65%

Pos 1: 70%

Pos 2: 75%




DR/EXPO

Adjust D/R and EXPO to your personal preference.

DR/EXPO is controlled with the Flight Mode Switch.



Normal: Beginner Settings

ELEV D/R = 50% EXP +30%

AILE D/R = 50% EXP +30%

RUDD D/R = 100% EXP +15%



ST-1: Standard Settings

ELEV D/R = 70% EXP +30%

AILE D/R = 70% EXP +30%

RUDD D/R = 100% EXP +15%




ST-2: 3D Settings

ELEV D/R = 125% EXP LIN

AILE D/R = 125% EXP LIN

RUDD D/R = 100% EXP LIN







Download the Configuration Settings File.

Right click the "model.ini " and select "Save Target As" or "Save Link As" depending if you are using IE or Firefox.

Install the configuration settings file into your models folder (See my How to video below).

This will over-right the current file so make sure that model slot doesn’t
have a model being used in it. If it does rename the configuration settings file
to another number that you have free.

Example: The file you downloaded is named model5 so change the “5" to another slot
number that you don’t have a model setup for. If you have model slot 6 open rename the file to model6





How to Import/Export Deviation Firmware Models








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  • priolo
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23 Apr 2014 07:41 - 23 Apr 2014 07:42
Replied by priolo on topic models compatible with the algin devo10 4.0.1

models compatible with the algin devo10 4.0.1

Category: Feedback & Questions

I'm sorry but I do not understand I've seen some users here in the forum that flies with t-rex 150
as possible and?, in the table that you suggested is not there.

as well as the protocol does not use S-FHSS/FHSS also DMS2/DMSX?
Thank you.HSS also DMS2/DMSX?

link
  • Tom Z
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09 Apr 2014 15:55 - 22 Apr 2014 21:50
Replied by Tom Z on topic Helicopter/Quad - Models made in Standard Mixer

Helicopter/Quad - Models made in Standard Mixer

Category: Model Configs

The Align T-Rex 150 DFC model is ready to install and fly.
Customize the settings to your personal preference.


Set your ESC Li-po Cell Count setting to "AUTO". Default setting is 2 CELL.

ESC Settings

Functions

6. Li-Po Cell Count - Make sure to set this to "Auto".
Do not use the "2S" setting. You will have an extreme power/headspeed loss using the default "2S" setting.





Align CP Helicopter


Align T-Rex 150 DFC




Download this model for the following Transmitters: DEVO 6/6S/8/8S/10/12/12S

File Attachment:

File Name: model21-3_...4-09.ini
File Size:4 KB




Download this model for the Devo 7e only

Attachment model21-3_Devo7e.ini not found







Download the Configuration Settings File.

Right click the "model.ini " and select "Save Target As" or "Save Link As" depending if you are using IE or Firefox.

Install the configuration settings file into your models folder (See my How to video below).

This will over-right the current file so make sure that model slot doesn’t
have a model being used in it. If it does rename the configuration settings file
to another number that you have free.

Example: The file you downloaded is named model5 so change the “5" to another slot
number that you don’t have a model setup for. If you have model slot 6 open rename the file to model6





How to Import/Export Deviation Firmware Models








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  • Tom Z
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29 Mar 2014 14:21 - 29 Mar 2014 15:27
Replied by Tom Z on topic Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Standard Settings

Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Standard Settings

Category: Model Configs

Manuwind, you need to balance your blades and replace anything else that is causing any vibrations like a bent main shaft, bent blade grips, bent feathering shaft, etc.
Also make sure your main gear is not warped or have any teeth missing or sheared.

The gyros are very sensitive to any vibrations.

I have the gyro gains on the "Mix" switch with 3 of the most common values used on the forums/internet. These are used for beginners, standard, and 3D fliers.
You can fine tune the gyro gain to your preference in the transmitter settings but first get rid of any vibrations.

Gyro gain for the Devo 8/10/12 are in Mixer, 5-Gear (Complex). Change the "Scale" value for the gyro gain.





If you are using the Devo 7e then the gyro gain will default to my 65% value due to the 7e doesn't have a "Mix" switch. Mixer, 5-Hold (Complex). Change the "Scale" value for the gyro gain.






You need to convert the gyro gain values. See my post here: deviationtx.com/forum/how-to/2620-conver...-to-deviation-values

"Scale" at the value of "30" is equal to the Align gyro gain of 65%.



"Important Note" on not having full power with the T-Rex 150.

ESC Settings

Functions

6. Li-Po Cell Count - Make sure to set this to "Auto". Do not use the "2S" setting. You will have an extreme power/headspeed loss using the "2S" setting.



For 3D I would use my 3D settings. They are more aggressive settings than the standard settings and they are the settings other 3D pilots are using.

deviationtx.com/forum/model-configs/2595...-150-dfc-3d-settings
  • Waterfly
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28 Feb 2014 12:46
Replied by Waterfly on topic Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Standard Settings

Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Standard Settings

Category: Model Configs

Tom:
I sent and got back my heli from Align. They tested it and it bound with Spektrum TX. I tried different thinks yesterday and made the Devo 7E bind with the heli only after switching to 4 channels. I flown the heli in the house and seems ok. It seems to have plenty of power.
I wander if the 4 channel setting will have any effect in the performance.
As Micro and myself have the same set up, let me know if you want me to test anything for you.
By the way, reading this tread I see that Micro is also flying a Super CP with a CO5 motor. I have the same setting, and if run 100% the heli has great performance. I have lower the rpm to tame it and practice inverted flying, and it works great. It gives me about over 7 minutes of flying time. The Super CP is almost indestructible; the only part I have been able to break is the landing gear, which you replace in less than a minute.
  • Tom Z
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23 Feb 2014 07:17 - 23 Feb 2014 07:20
Replied by Tom Z on topic Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Standard Settings

Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Standard Settings

Category: Model Configs

See my post above this first.


Update:

I just caught something you said in your video about too much pitch.
I didn't set the Pitch Travel Adjustment to 70%. With 100% your going to have too much pitch for the motor which will slow and bog the motor down.

Set your Pitch Travel Adjustment to -70% +70% and let me know how it works.
In the advanced mixer I just adjust the Scale to limit the Pitch Travel on the Pitch page and the standard mixer doesn't have this.


Devo 7e Travel Adjustment - Align T-Rex 150 DFC Standard Settings

  • Tom Z
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18 Feb 2014 04:04 - 18 Feb 2014 15:44
Replied by Tom Z on topic Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Standard Settings

Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Standard Settings

Category: Model Configs

micro, all the models in my first page/first post (#18322) are done in the advanced mixer and are not made for the Devo 7e which would require some changes to it if used.
That is why the gyro is not holding for you.

The standard mixer model for the Devo 7e only is in post #20388 on the top of page #2.

I set the gryo gain value for the standard mixer model to 88%. If you view the output channel for the gyro on the emulator it reads 76% gyro gain. So I am going by that number as it looks like the 88% was converted to 76% by the deviation firmware.



Edit: Just saw your edit.

I don't know why the model won't reset for you. It does for me on my Devo 10.
If you can't get it to reset hookup the Tx to the computer and get it in USB mode and copy and over-right fresh models to it. Use the models in the "model " folder that has the deviation firmware. I have done this also instead of clearing almost 40 models I had in it to test out.
  • Tom Z
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17 Feb 2014 23:18
Replied by Tom Z on topic Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Standard Settings

Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Standard Settings

Category: Model Configs

Waterfly wrote: I have used the one where the gyro gain was raised to 75%.

I will use the one that you just did with the power lower to 100 w.

I though that the Devo 7e transmitter will only go to 10 W even though it shows 150 W in the screen.


OK it should work then. Micro has the Devo 7e. See if he can help you on the binding problem.

I thought the factory firmware was 10mW but the deviation firmware increased it to 150mW. I see that you can't adjust the mW. It just say's default. I changed the mW in the ini file to 100mW but when I loaded and saved the model it went back to 150 mW.
  • Waterfly
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17 Feb 2014 22:50
Replied by Waterfly on topic Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Standard Settings

Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Standard Settings

Category: Model Configs

I have used the one where the gyro gain was raised to 75%.

I will use the one that you just did with the power lower to 100 w.

I though that the Devo 7e transmitter will only go to 10 W even though it shows 150 W in the screen.
  • Tom Z
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16 Feb 2014 15:52
Replied by Tom Z on topic Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Standard Settings

Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Standard Settings

Category: Model Configs

That's good the tail now holds!

Advanced mixer mode is complex and confusing to learn. It took me a while to figure it out using the emulator and trial and error of testing the model in my helicopters and quads.

Your Devo 7e will use hold1 for TH so that is correct.
I set TR to Rudder DR Switch on Position 1 for the model which I made with my Devo 10.
If you use the model on the Devo 7e or Devo 12 the TH will change to hold1.

The models I make on this site must be made in advanced mixer mode for the complex settings I want to use.

I would not try to use my models if you change it to standard mode.
Even though you found pitch curves for idle up missing, all the other settings, channel assignments, switch assignments and other things must be correct. There should also be no virtual channels either.
Trying to fly this way could cause the heli to freak out in flight and crash.

I can change the DR/EXPO for you very fast and easy and post the model for you. What settings would you like?
  • Tom Z
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31 Jan 2014 16:23 - 22 Apr 2014 21:46
Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Ultra Beginner Settings was created by Tom Z

Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Ultra Beginner Settings

Category: Model Configs

This model is different than my Beginner Settings model posted on this web site. It is even tamer and will hover at about 1 line above the half stick throttle mark. I made this model for the beginner who is flying a CP helicopter for the first time. This model is made just to hover and fly around.



  • No negative pitch for normal mode so you don’t slam the heli down if you pull the stick down to fast.
  • Don’t fly outside in wind in normal mode. You won’t be able to pull the heli down if the wind takes the heli.
    If you fly outside in wind use ST- 2 which has negative pitch which can pull the heli down in wind.
  • Very Low Pitch to make the heli more tame.
  • Hover at about 1 line above the half stick throttle mark. This is helpful for beginners to learn on.
  • Low Dual Rates and Expo to tame the heli down.
  • Throttle Hold on the RUDD D/R switch.
    Zero Degree Pitch when throttle hold is on.
    This will help minimize damage in a crash as the swash and blades will be at mid stick zero degrees pitch. This will also help prevent a boom strike.
  • 7 Point Throttle and Pitch Curves.
  • TX Power=100mW
  • Channels=7
  • Protocol=DSMX
  • No Fixed ID
  • Stick Mode 2
  • If you need Stick Mode 1, 3, or 4 load the model into your transmitter then change the Stick Mode in the transmitter settings.



    EDIT: 2/19/2014

    This model has been updated. The pitch was raised as it wasn't hovering at mid stick and needed more than half throttle to hover.



    Model 40 is for deviation firmware v4 and the DEVO 6/6S/8/8S/10/12/12S.

    * This model will not work for deviation firmware v2.1 or v3.


    Set your ESC Li-po Cell Count setting to "AUTO". Default setting is 2 CELL.

    ESC Settings

    Functions

    6. Li-Po Cell Count - Make sure to set this to "Auto".
    Do not use the "2S" setting. You will have an extreme power/headspeed loss using the default "2S" setting.




Flight Mode

Normal: No negative pitch at low stick. Hover at about 1 line above the half stick throttle mark.

ST-1: Same as Normal Mode.

ST-2: -3* negative pitch so you can fly in wind if you want to. It will hover about 1 line above the half stick throttle mark.
You can also use this mode to get use to having negative pitch at low stick.


I left out full +/- Stunt modes as a beginner will not use them. Also there is no chance of accidentally selecting full +/- pitch.



Throttle Curve

Normal: Linear Curve

ST-1: Linear Curve

ST-2: Linear Curve


Throttle Hold is active on RUDD D/R switch



Pitch Curve

Normal: No negative pitch. Helicopter will hover about 1 line above the half stick throttle mark.

ST-1: Same as Normal Mode.

ST-2: -2* negative pitch. Helicopter will hover about 1 line above half the stick throttle mark.




Gyro Gain - These are the values I used then converted them to the deviation values.

Mix Switch

Pos 0: 65%

Pos 1: 70%

Pos 2: 75%




DR/EXPO - ELEV, AILE, RUDD are all the the AILE switch for quick and easy changing in hover or flight.



Adjust D/R and EXPO to your personal preference.

Don't try to flip or 3D with these settings.


Switch Position - This setting is for hovering and slow forward flight only.


0- ELEV D/R = 30% EXP -10%

0- AILE D/R = 30% EXP -10%

RUDD D/R = 100% EXP +20%



Switch Position

1- ELEV D/R = 50% EXP +30%

1- AILE D/R = 50% EXP +30%

RUDD D/R = 100% EXP LIN





Download the Configuration Settings File.

Right click the "model.ini " and select "Save Target As" or "Save Link As" depending if you are using IE or Firefox.

Install the configuration settings file into your models folder (See my How to video below).

This will over-right the current file so make sure that model slot doesn’t
have a model being used in it. If it does rename the configuration settings file
to another number that you have free.

Example: The file you downloaded is named model5 so change the “5" to another slot
number that you don’t have a model setup for. If you have model slot 6 open rename the file to model6





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  • Tom Z
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16 Jan 2014 14:13 - 16 Jan 2014 14:16
Replied by Tom Z on topic Align T-Rex 150 DFC - 3D Settings

Align T-Rex 150 DFC - 3D Settings

Category: Model Configs

I tried some v4 models in the v3 emulators (Devo 7e, 8, 10).
This model will not work for deviation firmware v2.1 or v3.
See this post for more information.
deviationtx.com/forum/model-configs/2578...er-settings?start=20
  • Tom Z
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10 Jan 2014 17:07 - 22 Apr 2014 21:47
Align T-Rex 150 DFC - 3D Settings was created by Tom Z

Align T-Rex 150 DFC - 3D Settings

Category: Model Configs

This model is for use with the Spektrum DSM2/DSMX Satellite Receiver.

  • 7 Point Throttle and Pitch Curves
  • Throttle hold on the RUDD D/R switch
  • TX Power=100mW
  • Channels=7
  • Protocol=DSMX
  • No Fixed ID
  • Stick Mode 2
  • If you need Stick Mode 1, 3, or 4 load the model into your transmitter then change the Stick Mode in the transmitter settings.


    Model 22 is for deviation firmware v4 and the DEVO 6/6S/8/8S/10/12/12S.

    * This model will not work for deviation firmware v2.1 or v3.

    Model 22-2 has Zero Degree Pitch when throttle hold is on.
    This will help minimize damage in a crash as the swash and blades will be at mid stick zero degrees pitch.
    This will also help prevent a boom strike.
    The swash does not move when TH is on.
    If you want control of the swash in TH to help you land in a crash don’t use this model use Model 22 instead.


    Set your ESC Li-po Cell Count setting to "AUTO". Default setting is 2 CELL.

    ESC Settings

    Functions

    6. Li-Po Cell Count - Make sure to set this to "Auto".
    Do not use the "2S" setting. You will have an extreme power/headspeed loss using the default "2S" setting.




Throttle Curve - These are the values I used then converted them to the deviation values and 7 point curves.

NORM - 0% 30% 50% 55% 60%
ST- 1 - 100% 90% 80% 90% 100%
ST- 2 - 100% 90% 80% 90% 100%


Throttle Hold is active on RUDD D/R switch



Pitch Curve

Normal: -3* negative pitch. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick.

ST-1: Full +/- 3D pitch curve. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick.

ST-2: Full +/- 3D pitch curve. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick.



Gyro Gain - These are the values I used then converted them to the deviation values.

Mix Switch

Pos 0: 65%

Pos 1: 70%

Pos 2: 75%



DR/EXPO

Adjust D/R and EXPO to your personal preference.


Switch Position

0- ELEV D/R = 100% EXP +30%

0- AILE D/R = 100% EXP +30%

RUDD D/R = 100% EXP -6%


Switch Position

1- ELEV D/R = 125% EXP LIN

1- AILE D/R = 125% EXP LIN

RUDD D/R = 100% EXP -6%











Download the Configuration Settings File.

Right click the "model.ini " and select "Save Target As" or "Save Link As" depending if you are using IE or Firefox.

Install the configuration settings file into your models folder (See my How to video below).

This will over-right the current file so make sure that model slot doesn’t
have a model being used in it. If it does rename the configuration settings file
to another number that you have free.

Example: The file you downloaded is named model5 so change the “5" to another slot
number that you don’t have a model setup for. If you have model slot 6 open rename the file to model6





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  • Tom Z
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10 Jan 2014 17:06 - 22 Apr 2014 21:45
Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Standard Settings was created by Tom Z

Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Standard Settings

Category: Model Configs

This model is for use with the Spektrum DSM2/DSMX Satellite Receiver.


  • 7 Point Throttle and Pitch Curves
  • Throttle hold on the RUDD D/R switch
  • TX Power=100mW
  • Channels=7
  • Protocol=DSMX
  • No Fixed ID
  • Stick Mode 2
  • If you need Stick Mode 1, 3, or 4 load the model into your transmitter then change the Stick Mode in the transmitter settings.


    Model 21 is for deviation firmware v4 and the DEVO 6/6S/8/8S/10/12/12S.

    * This model will not work for deviation firmware v2.1 or v3.

    Model 21-2 has Zero Degree Pitch when throttle hold is on.
    This will help minimize damage in a crash as the swash and blades will be at mid stick zero degrees pitch.
    This will also help prevent a boom strike.
    The swash does not move when TH is on.
    If you want control of the swash in TH to help you land in a crash don’t use this model use Model 21 instead.


    Set your ESC Li-po Cell Count setting to "AUTO". Default setting is 2 CELL.

    ESC Settings

    Functions

    6. Li-Po Cell Count - Make sure to set this to "Auto".
    Do not use the "2S" setting. You will have an extreme power/headspeed loss using the default "2S" setting.




Throttle Curve - These are the values I used then converted them to the deviation values and 7 point curves.

NORM - 0% 30% 50% 55% 60%
ST- 1 - 90% 86% 84% 86% 90%
ST- 2 - 90% 86% 84% 86% 90%

Throttle Hold is active on RUDD D/R switch



Pitch Curve

Normal: -3* negative pitch. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick.

ST-1: Full +/- 3D pitch curve. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick.

ST-2: Full +/- 3D pitch curve. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick.



Gyro Gain - These are the values I used then converted them to the deviation values.

Mix Switch

Pos 0: 65%

Pos 1: 70%

Pos 2: 75%



DR/EXPO

Adjust D/R and EXPO to your personal preference.


Switch Position

0- ELEV D/R = 70% EXP +30%

0- AILE D/R = 70% EXP +30%

RUDD D/R = 100% EXP +15%



Switch Position

1- ELEV D/R = 100% EXP +30%

1- AILE D/R = 100% EXP +30%

RUDD D/R = 100% EXP +15%











Download the Configuration Settings File.

Right click the "model.ini " and select "Save Target As" or "Save Link As" depending if you are using IE or Firefox.

Install the configuration settings file into your models folder (See my How to video below).

This will over-right the current file so make sure that model slot doesn’t
have a model being used in it. If it does rename the configuration settings file
to another number that you have free.

Example: The file you downloaded is named model5 so change the “5" to another slot
number that you don’t have a model setup for. If you have model slot 6 open rename the file to model6





How to Import/Export Deviation Firmware Models






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  • Tom Z
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10 Jan 2014 17:03 - 22 Apr 2014 21:48
Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Beginner Settings was created by Tom Z

Align T-Rex 150 DFC - Beginner Settings

Category: Model Configs

This model is for use with the Spektrum DSM2/DSMX Satellite Receiver.


  • No negative pitch for normal mode so you don’t slam the heli down if you pull the stick down to fast.
  • Don’t fly outside in wind in normal mode. You won’t be able to pull the heli down if the wind takes the heli.
    If you fly outside in wind use ST- 1 or ST- 2 which have full pitch curves which can pull the heli down in wind.
  • Lower Pitch Travel Adjustment to make the heli tamer
  • Low dual rates and positive expo to tame the heli down
  • Throttle hold on the RUDD D/R switch
  • 7 Point Throttle and Pitch Curves
  • TX Power=100mW
  • Channels=7
  • Protocol=DSMX
  • No Fixed ID
  • Stick Mode 2
  • If you need Stick Mode 1, 3, or 4 load the model into your transmitter then change the Stick Mode in the transmitter settings.


    Model 20 is for deviation firmware v4 and the DEVO 6/6S/8/8S/10/12/12S.

    * This model will not work for deviation firmware v2.1 or v3.

    Model 20-2 has Zero Degree Pitch when throttle hold is on.
    This will help minimize damage in a crash as the swash and blades will be at mid stick zero degrees pitch.
    This will also help prevent a boom strike.
    The swash does not move when TH is on.
    If you want control of the swash in TH to help you land in a crash don’t use this model use Model 20 instead.


    Set your ESC Li-po Cell Count setting to "AUTO". Default setting is 2 CELL.

    ESC Settings

    Functions

    6. Li-Po Cell Count - Make sure to set this to "Auto".
    Do not use the "2S" setting. You will have an extreme power/headspeed loss using the default "2S" setting.




Throttle Curve - These are the values I used then converted them to the deviation values and 7 point curves.

NORM - 0% 30% 50% 55% 60%
ST- 1 - 70% 68% 65% 68% 70%
ST- 2 - 80% 77% 74% 77% 80%


Throttle Hold is active on RUDD D/R switch




Pitch Curve

Normal: No negative pitch. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick.

ST-1: Full +/- 3D pitch curve. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick.

ST-2: Full +/- 3D pitch curve. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick.



Gyro Gain - These are the values I used then converted them to the deviation values.

Mix Switch

Pos 0: 65%

Pos 1: 70%

Pos 2: 75%



DR/EXPO

Adjust D/R and EXPO to your personal preference.


Switch Position

0- ELEV D/R = 50% EXP +30%

0- AILE D/R = 50% EXP +30%

RUDD D/R = 100% EXP +15%



Switch Position

1- ELEV D/R = 70% EXP +30%

1- AILE D/R = 70% EXP +30%

RUDD D/R = 100% EXP +15%











Download the Configuration Settings File.

Right click the "model.ini " and select "Save Target As" or "Save Link As" depending if you are using IE or Firefox.

Install the configuration settings file into your models folder (See my How to video below).

This will over-right the current file so make sure that model slot doesn’t
have a model being used in it. If it does rename the configuration settings file
to another number that you have free.

Example: The file you downloaded is named model5 so change the “5" to another slot
number that you don’t have a model setup for. If you have model slot 6 open rename the file to model6





How to Import/Export Deviation Firmware Models






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