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11 Sep 2014 15:38 #25616 by handy2
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I have a devo 7e and there is no gear switch to assign flips to. Is there a model file which already has the flip assigned to a trim switch

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20 Sep 2014 21:03 #25746 by ben1977
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Hi !!
A few posts above, the investigation of "green board" protocol seemed very close to be functional, could you please tell us about your work ?
Thanks !

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21 Sep 2014 03:32 - 21 Sep 2014 03:39 #25747 by harmony96
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Hi.

I opened a controller of my cx-10.

Unlike Pics in the previous posts, it seems that the RF module of my controller is separable from a main board.

Is it possible to install this RF module in devo 10?
Last edit: 21 Sep 2014 03:39 by harmony96.

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23 Sep 2014 18:49 #25775 by Wene001
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Hi

Can you pleas tell me the binding Prozess with Skvwklr Protocol and a Cheerson CX-10

i've planted a BK2421 tx Modul without PA in my Devo6s
The problem is that i don`t know if its working.

I,ve tried different Vd717 Variants and skywlkr binds one time with (not reproduceable) but doesnt work properly.

Seems So please tell me how the binding should work.

Ive opended the Cx-10 ....red board

Greetz from Austria

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23 Sep 2014 18:58 #25777 by SeByDocKy
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Wene001 wrote: Hi

Can you pleas tell me the binding Prozess with Skvwklr Protocol and a Cheerson CX-10

i've planted a BK2421 tx Modul without PA in my Devo6s
The problem is that i don`t know if its working.

I,ve tried different Vd717 Variants and skywlkr binds one time with (not reproduceable) but doesnt work properly.

Seems So please tell me how the binding should work.

Ive opended the Cx-10 ....red board

Greetz from Austria


Personnaly, I installed a real nRF24L01+PA+LNA chip. Can't tell if it's worling also with a Beken2421.... Probably ...

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24 Sep 2014 01:32 #25780 by hexfet
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ben1977 wrote: A few posts above, the investigation of "green board" protocol seemed very close to be functional, could you please tell us about your work ?
Thanks !


I've tested in the emulator and believe the code is sending the same init and bind sequence as in the capture, but SeByDocKy's quad wouldn't bind. Perhaps there's a error in the code.

Or there could be some incompatibility with the XN297 chip. It would be nice to know what is set by the two writes to registers that aren't in the nRF documentation.

Or something else. Open to suggestions :)

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24 Sep 2014 05:51 #25784 by ben1977
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I'm going to test if you think it may work !
So I should flash the latest nightly and use of the following protocol :
"YD717", "Sky Wlr" or "XinXun" ?
It's the same setting for red board / green board or is there anything to set up to try ?

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24 Sep 2014 14:25 #25789 by hexfet
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I don't think it will work because it didn't for SeByDocKy, but you're welcome to try. It's not in the nightly. There's a build for Devo10 posted earlier in the thread. If you have a different radio I can make a zip for you. It's a new 'CX10' protocol.

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24 Sep 2014 17:32 #25790 by Daryoon
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Yes, many of us are hoping to use the the CX-10 green pcb with the Devo7e.

So a Devo 7e build would be good for me to test and give feedback too. :)

Thank you.

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24 Sep 2014 21:37 #25794 by ben1977
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I've tested the Devo10 firmware in the previous page on my Devo10 but unfortunately it doesn't bind with my "green" board CX10.
I don't know if this is important but I've noticed the following behaviour with original remote which is quite different from usual :
1) When I switch on the CX10, the blue leds are blinking very fast
2) Then I switch on the original remote, and the blue leds are blinking only medium fast
3) Then I do the "full throttle" (hear BIP) "0 throttle" (hear BIP) => leds become fixed ON

=> at step 2), right after switching remote on, the quad seems to be partially binded and waiting for initialization sequence.
I didn't manage to get this fast to medium blinking leds when using the CX10 protocol, so I guess doing the initialisation sequence (full to 0 throttle) could'nt do anything.

Hope to hear from you ;-)

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24 Sep 2014 22:07 #25795 by Daryoon
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Did you select the correct protocol?

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24 Sep 2014 22:26 #25796 by ben1977
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I've selected "CX10", that was the good one ?
Also tried YD717 just in case, but nothing more ...

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24 Sep 2014 22:51 #25797 by Daryoon
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That should be the one. CX10 protocol for the green one.

I just wanted to double-check.

I think it has to be something simple. Hopefully PracturedBlue or victzh can take a look? :)

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26 Sep 2014 01:55 #25808 by hexfet
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Here are new builds for Devo 10 and 7e. I've also pushed everything to my bitbucket repo if anyone wants to fiddle with the source.

I added a protocol option to set the undocumented registers. Set the option On and re-init to try it. Have no idea if it will have any effect on non-XN297 chips. I tried it on my Devo10 with the Bekin chip and nothing blew up so it should be safe, though probably safest to power down after trying it before using another nRF protocol.

I did find one register I missed initialising. Didn't seem like it would make a difference, but maybe...
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26 Sep 2014 04:42 #25809 by Daryoon
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Yeah, didn't work on the Devo 7e. Even with the option turned on.

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26 Sep 2014 05:23 #25810 by SeByDocKy
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Not working too with my Devo10 (both options) :(

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26 Sep 2014 15:01 #25813 by hexfet
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Anyone able to translate the XN297 datasheet posted earlier in the thread? Might shed some light, though it didn't seem to document the registers.

If I order a CX10 from Banggood will it have the green board?

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26 Sep 2014 17:38 #25815 by SeByDocKy
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hexfet wrote: Anyone able to translate the XN297 datasheet posted earlier in the thread? Might shed some light, though it didn't seem to document the registers.

If I order a CX10 from Banggood will it have the green board?



The specific green edition

www.banggood.com/Cheerson-CX-10-CX10-2_4...en-PCB-p-945097.html

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27 Sep 2014 00:22 #25824 by hexfet
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SeByDocKy wrote: The specific green edition

Might get one when they have them in stock.

Turns out google translates pdf files - amazing. Here's the link to the XN297 manual . Strangely the translation seems to be breaking halfway through now. I got a better translation earlier today and hopefully it will still be on the screen when back to work Monday.

The non-nRF registers are named demodulator calibration, RF calibration, and baseband calibration. The values written by the init code are different from the default values in the manual. Don't know to what effect.

The manual mentions "universal communication mode" in several places which seems to imply they intended compatibility with other chips. Don't know if the changes to the calibration registers are what's causing the bind to fail with nRF devices.

Interestingly, if you installed an XN297 in your Devo it would not support nRF protocols that enable dynamic payload length or auto-acknowledge. The XN297 supports 64-byte data packets and uses a slightly different packet format in "enhanced communication mode". The CX10 uses the universal mode so it seems it could be compatible.

It would be interesting to see if the calibration register addresses can be read on nRF/Bekin chips and what the default values are. Since the protocol option to write those registers didn't work for Daryoon or SeByDocKy it doesn't seem they do the same thing as on the XN297.

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29 Sep 2014 19:20 #25877 by hexfet
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Here's the better translation of the XN297 manual
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