skyartec compatibility

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27 Mar 2013 00:49 - 28 Mar 2013 03:10 #8128 by dc59

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Hexperience wrote: I take it this applies to both the skyartec module and a cc2500-pa bought off of ebay?

As long as we find the correct pins on the module we'll be ok right? This is what mine says...

So long as I match up mosi to si (etc) ??

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Hi Hexperience,
Your picture is a XL2500-D03 module,it's same as mine!

I think deviation should work fine with CC2500-PA module as well,if you got correctly pin connection.

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27 Mar 2013 04:19 - 27 Mar 2013 04:22 #8130 by Hexperience

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Thanks, good to know it will work, but I'm wondering about this:

Does that mean I have to put 3.3v to ALL 3 of those places?

Would anyone have a diagram of how to wire in these modules? The photo in the manual is a bit hard to see where the wires are really going.

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27 Mar 2013 04:58 #8131 by dc59

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"Does that mean I have to put 3.3v to ALL 3 of those places?"

yes,you are right!

if you use XL2500-D03 module,you should put 3.3v to VCC & PAEN.

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27 Mar 2013 06:15 - 27 Mar 2013 06:18 #8132 by vlad_vy

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I'm not sure. Datasheet for very similar module:

wenku.baidu.com/view/2a2f4e737fd5360cba1adb94.html

wenku.baidu.com/view/1dafd519a76e58fafab0035b.html

PA_EN: When Tx status set '1', Rx set '0'
LNA_EN: When Rx status set '1', Tx set '0'

Possible PA_EN and LNA_EN have to be mutually inverted.

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27 Mar 2013 09:26 - 27 Mar 2013 09:26 #8136 by stein@office-center.no

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PhracturedBlue wrote: I have updated the module installation instructions for both the CC2500 and A7105 modules. You can find the updated instructions here:
www.deviationtx.com/repository/Documenta...duleInstallation.pdf

The next release is imminent. Mostly it is waiting for:

b) me to update the documentation

After the recent discussions - does this require the Modulinstallation.pdf file to be updated? (I need to give the module and radio to my friend for soldering and want to be sure he has the information required.)

Thanks.
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27 Mar 2013 09:52 - 27 Mar 2013 09:58 #8138 by vlad_vy

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MOSI: master output, slave input (output from master); MOSI = (si)(digital input)
MISO: master input, slave output (output from slave); MISO = (so)(digital output)

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27 Mar 2013 11:01 #8139 by Hexperience

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Sorry, I don't know what that diagram really means...

Can you guys help me fill in this..

(sorry I know I'm thick)

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27 Mar 2013 14:15 - 27 Mar 2013 14:17 #8144 by vlad_vy

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I think it will be:

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28 Mar 2013 00:49 - 28 Mar 2013 03:08 #8164 by dc59

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28 Mar 2013 00:52 - 28 Mar 2013 03:08 #8165 by dc59

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28 Mar 2013 02:31 #8166 by Mullson

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Wats the picture? This project is for everyone and all. fer more the first thing this jittering is FK distrusting.The first explanation was correct, I got it right the first time whith PBs explination and some thinking and sens This is no do it your self club.
Lets come together and make some sense!

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28 Mar 2013 02:41 #8167 by dc59

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Mullson wrote: Wats the picture? This project is for everyone and all. fer more the first thing this jittering is FK distrusting.The first explanation was correct, I got it right the first time whith PBs explination and some thinking and sens This is no do it your self club.
Lets come together and make some sense!

Sorry!
If I uploaded any picture with no sense,please let me know,I will delete it.

do you mean the connection table or devo10 pictures?

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28 Mar 2013 03:05 - 28 Mar 2013 03:05 #8169 by PhracturedBlue

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vlad_vy wrote: PA_EN: When Tx status set '1', Rx set '0'
LNA_EN: When Rx status set '1', Tx set '0'

Possible PA_EN and LNA_EN have to be mutually inverted.

No, they can both be enabled at the same time. the PA_EN powers up the power-amp (transmit amp). The LNA_EN powers up the low-noise-amplifier (receiver amp). It is perfectly valid for both to be enabled simultaneously though it does draw more power that way. Since we don't have enoiugh pins to actually manage these connections, tying them always on is what I've done. It is possible it will reduce the overall performance of the CC2500 module, but I haven't really tested yet. Note that this has nothing to do with the CC2500. These connections are (as far as I'm aware) only for controlling the external amplifier

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28 Mar 2013 03:16 #8172 by Hexperience

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dc59 wrote: Delete

DC59!!! Those pictures were great! I don't have a clue what that guy was talking about. Please repost them!

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28 Mar 2013 03:19 #8174 by PhracturedBlue

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I have updated the table in the pdf so that it is hopefully correct now.

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28 Mar 2013 03:22 #8175 by Hexperience

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Does the XL2500 not have a Low Noise Amp? Will that be a problem? Specifically I'll be looking for long range (with telemetry when we get to that point).

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28 Mar 2013 03:23 #8176 by sbstnp

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Hexperience wrote:
dc59 wrote: Delete

DC59!!! Those pictures were great! I don't have a clue what that guy was talking about. Please repost them!

+1. Mullson seems to be... special

, don't listen to him

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28 Mar 2013 03:25 - 28 Mar 2013 03:27 #8177 by sbstnp

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Hexperience wrote: Does the XL2500 not have a Low Noise Amp? Will that be a problem? Specifically I'll be looking for long range (with telemetry when we get to that point).

The one I got has both PA and LNA.
www.aliexpress.com/item/CC2500-PA-LNA-wi...-2-4G/359941652.html

Which XL2500 is yours, D02 or D03?

From what I'm seeing around:
D02: both PA and LNA, 20dbm
D03: just PA, 15dbm or 16dbm

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28 Mar 2013 03:26 #8178 by Hexperience

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vlad_vy wrote: I think it will be:

Thanks Vlad!!! Just what I needed.

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28 Mar 2013 03:32 - 28 Mar 2013 03:52 #8179 by Hexperience

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sbstnp wrote:
Hexperience wrote: Does the XL2500 not have a Low Noise Amp? Will that be a problem? Specifically I'll be looking for long range (with telemetry when we get to that point).

The one I got has both PA and LNA.
www.aliexpress.com/item/CC2500-PA-LNA-wi...-2-4G/359941652.html

Which XL2500 is yours, D02 or D03?

From what I'm seeing around:
D02: both PA and LNA, 20dbm
D03: just PA, 15dbm or 16dbm

%@#$%@%%!!! I hate ebay!

Yes, I have the D03 but the ebay listing said it was 20dbm... Now I have to order again and wait... crud.

Thanks for catching that sbstnp.... I wouldn't have known...

edit--- AHHH I just did it again... I just ordered from the link posted above without reading it. It says it's 17dbm and "work distance" is 800m (But that it's up to 150ma so I don;t know...)

Lucky these things are cheap! I'll have a nice collection by the end.

I'll hook up the xl2500-d03 for now...

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