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08 Aug 2016 22:42 #52601 by goebish
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Thanks, I'll take a look at that.

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15 Aug 2016 13:55 #52777 by thearne3
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Hi Goebish,

I know you have many projects and really appreciate your work! Any advance on the H301s data would be much appreciated! Also, I you point me in the right direction, I might be able to do some of the work...

Best
Tom

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15 Aug 2016 14:12 #52778 by goebish
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I'm in holidays now, I'll get back next week, I already had a look at your dumps, nothing complicated.

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22 Aug 2016 21:04 #53016 by thearne3
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Thanks! Looking forward to your input!

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29 Aug 2016 13:09 #53234 by thearne3
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Hi Goebish,

Any update? Hope you had a great vacation!

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29 Aug 2016 13:26 #53235 by goebish
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Yes I'm back, I'll try to make a test build during the week ;)

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31 Aug 2016 14:18 #53331 by thearne3
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On a side note....

It's interesting how undeveloped telemetry is - especially full range. This makes the Hubsan implementation so interesting: full range telemetry with attitude, gps and battery - all in a stabilized FC board with a built in full power A7105! If only we could control or even turn off the buggy RTH function, the electronics would be worth transferring to other planes. The H501s has similar capabilities and it remarkable in the quad implementation.

For future reference, I found this information at www.hubsanfpv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=889 re attitude and GPS data transfer:

They begin with bytes 0xE7 and 0xE8
0xE7 - is atitude (roll, pitch, yaw, number of GPS sats, voltage)
0xE8 - latitude, longitude, altitude and also voltage

The author chose to use the information for OSD, but I hope the raw data can be used directly. I can do some experiments to determine ranges for each parameter if that would help.

No rush, just excited about the future!

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31 Aug 2016 14:22 - 31 Aug 2016 14:24 #53332 by goebish
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We already have reversed all those infos:
www.deviationtx.com/forum/protocol-devel...sans?start=140#41782

... just that I didn't have the time / motivation yet to write the complete code for telemetry ;)
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31 Aug 2016 14:33 #53333 by thearne3
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Great! I'll take a closer look at that post and try to increase my understanding...and stay out of your way! :)

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31 Aug 2016 14:34 #53334 by goebish
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lol, I'm lazy, feel free to bug me, no worries ;)

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04 Sep 2016 11:06 #53466 by goebish
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I still have to understand something before I can make a test build, that's still not clear which sub-protocol it's based on.

You told it works with H107 and H501 format option, but did you have to use the H501 format + bind button the first time you used it ?

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05 Sep 2016 02:32 #53479 by thearne3
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I don't recall. But I DID do the following - I hope it answers your question:

1. Confirmed it auto-binds to both H107 and H501 options on Hubsan protocol.
2. Changed ID on the Tx.
3. Did a binding on H107, changed to H501 and it continued to be bound. Turned of Tx and Rx. Turned on Tx then Rx - auto-bound on H501.
4. Changed ID on Tx.
5. Did binding on H501, changed to h107 and it continued to be bound. Turned off TX and Rx. Turned on Tx then Rx - auto-bound on H107.

Once the Tx and Rx are bound. They remain bound regardless of setting H107 or H501.

I could detect no difference in behavior or control of the plane in h107 or h501: both control only the control surfaces and motor. Both leave the plane in 'Stabilize' mode.

Best,
Tom

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05 Sep 2016 10:58 #53504 by goebish
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I need to be sure, because according to the manual, a bind procedure is required.
I think we can test something ... now that your aircraft is bound to the Devo, does it still auto-bind with the stock transmitter or do you have to repeat the manual bind sequence with it ?

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05 Sep 2016 12:57 #53509 by thearne3
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As I would hope, the stock TX required a rebind procedure: hold Enter when powering on.

The H301 seems to be more versatile than the H501: it can bind with either Hubsan protocol.

T

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05 Sep 2016 13:04 #53510 by goebish
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Ok thanks, that means it's using the H501 protocol actually.
I'll add the flags found in your captures and make a test build.

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05 Sep 2016 14:15 - 05 Sep 2016 14:15 #53512 by goebish
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Here's a test build for 7e, select H301 format option:
www.dropbox.com/s/80r06nzij0xq44o/deviat...0.0-5132dc1.zip?dl=0

Channel 5: Leds
Channel 6: Stabilized mode
Channel 8: video
Channel 10: RTH
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05 Sep 2016 14:29 #53515 by thearne3
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Now I have a couple of questions:

First: I have Devo 6s, which generally uses the same firmware as a Devo8. Can I use the 7e test?

Second: Do I need the other files in the zip or is updating the dfu enough?

Thanks!

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05 Sep 2016 14:46 #53516 by goebish
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Sorry, I thought you had a Devo 7e, here's build for Devo 6:
www.dropbox.com/s/pae9bpcbk4nc12m/deviat...0.0-5132dc1.zip?dl=0

Updating the .dfu should be enough.

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05 Sep 2016 18:49 #53521 by thearne3
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So far...so good!

LEDs - working
Stab/Man - working

RTH - need to test in flight - too windy right now!
Video - need to find my micro sd card!

Thanks!
T

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05 Sep 2016 22:36 #53530 by thearne3
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Video on/off: also working!

I will attempt to test RTH later this week, but the other switches are all working....

Now - is there any way to change your mind about tackling the GPS coordinates? I think you had started some work on the H501 GPS. Do you think the H301 is similar?

Thanks again for all you work!

Tom

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